14:43:49 RRSAgent has joined #forms 14:43:49 logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-forms-irc 14:43:56 zakim, this will be forms 14:43:56 ok, John_Boyer, I see HTML_Forms()10:45AM already started 14:44:02 rrsagent, make log public 14:44:14 - +45.36.95.aaaa 14:44:14 Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Teleconference 14:44:16 HTML_Forms()10:45AM has ended 14:44:16 Attendees were +45.36.95.aaaa 14:45:10 trackbot, start telecon 14:45:12 RRSAgent, make logs public 14:45:14 Zakim, this will be HTML_Forms 14:45:15 Meeting: Forms Working Group Teleconference 14:45:15 Date: 23 September 2009 14:45:15 ok, trackbot; I see HTML_Forms()10:45AM scheduled to start now 14:45:38 Chair: John 14:45:47 HTML_Forms()10:45AM has now started 14:45:54 +mauro 14:46:00 -mauro 14:46:01 HTML_Forms()10:45AM has ended 14:46:01 Attendees were mauro 14:46:05 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Sep/0033 14:46:06 nick has joined #forms 14:46:21 zakim, code? 14:46:21 the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), nick 14:46:51 HTML_Forms()10:45AM has now started 14:47:00 + +45.36.95.aaaa 14:47:06 + +44.323.821.aabb 14:47:06 zakim, i am +45. 14:47:06 +kenneth; got it 14:47:33 zakim, who is on the phone 14:47:33 I don't understand 'who is on the phone', nick 14:47:43 zakim, who is ob the phone? 14:47:43 I don't understand your question, nick. 14:47:48 zakim, help 14:47:48 Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot for more detailed help. 14:47:50 zakim, who is here? 14:47:51 Some of the commands I know are: 14:47:51 zakim, who is here? 14:47:52 xxx is yyy - establish yyy as the name of unknown party xxx 14:47:54 if yyy is 'me' or 'I', your nick is substituted 14:47:56 xxx may be yyy - establish yyy as possibly the name of unknown party xxx 14:47:59 I am xxx - establish your nick as the name of unknown party xxx 14:48:01 xxx holds yyy [, zzz ...] - establish xxx as a group name and yyy, etc. as participants within that group 14:48:04 xxx also holds yyy - add yyy to the list of participants in group xxx 14:48:06 who's here? - lists the participants on the phone 14:48:08 who's muted? - lists the participants who are muted 14:48:10 mute xxx - mutes party xxx (like pressing 61#) 14:48:13 unmute xxx - reverses the effect of "mute" and of 61# 14:48:15 is xxx here? - reports whether a party named like xxx is present 14:48:18 list conferences - reports the active conferences 14:48:20 this is xxx - associates this channel with conference xxx 14:48:22 excuse us - disconnects from the irc channel 14:48:25 I last learned something new on $Date: 2008/12/09 02:16:52 $ 14:48:29 On the phone I see kenneth, +44.323.821.aabb 14:48:31 On IRC I see nick, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, kenneth, Steven, trackbot 14:48:32 klotz has joined #forms 14:48:33 On the phone I see kenneth, +44.323.821.aabb 14:48:35 On IRC I see nick, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, kenneth, Steven, trackbot 14:48:37 +John_Boyer 14:48:47 zakim, dial steven-617 14:48:47 ok, Steven; the call is being made 14:48:52 +Steven 14:49:07 zakim, who is on the phone? 14:49:07 On the phone I see kenneth, +44.323.821.aabb, John_Boyer, Steven 14:49:27 +Leigh_Klotz 14:53:00 scribe: Leigh 14:53:49 Regrets: Uli, Erik 14:53:57 http://picoforms.com/picowidgetsolution/screenshots 14:55:28 XHTML Basic 1.1 14:57:50 ACTION: Kenneth Sklander to send to list suggestions for inputMode tests. 14:57:50 Created ACTION-567 - Sklander to send to list suggestions for inputMode tests. [on Kenneth Sklander - due 2009-09-30]. 14:58:29 Kenneth do you have a standard mapping JSON<->XML? 15:03:06 ACTION: Kenneth Sklander to send to list information about lossy-but-convenient JSON-to-XML transformation. 15:03:06 Created ACTION-568 - Sklander to send to list information about lossy-but-convenient JSON-to-XML transformation. [on Kenneth Sklander - due 2009-09-30]. 15:04:09 http://www.w3.org/2002/Forms/Activity.html 15:06:18 I think 'the existing XForms is being modularized' is outdated 15:06:41 +[IBM] 15:08:14 wiecha has joined #forms 15:10:45 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Jul/att-0045/2009-07-29.html 15:10:52 Ramifications of deprecating DOMActivate/DOMFocusIn/DOMFocusOut 15:11:41 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Jul/att-0045/2009-07-29.html#topic5 15:14:18 unl has joined #forms 15:15:38 + +49.307.544.aacc 15:15:54 zakim, +49.307.544.aacc is me 15:15:54 +unl; got it 15:16:03 Regrets-Uli 15:20:13 rrsagent, make minutes 15:20:13 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-forms-minutes.html John_Boyer 15:24:16 http://www.dojotoolkit.org/forum/dojo-core-dojo-0-9/dojo-core-support/dom-events-supported-dojo-documentation 15:24:51 http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-DOM-Level-3-Events-20090908/#event-type-focus 15:25:49 from spec: An event target receives focus. The focus shall be given to the element before the dispatch of this event type. This event type shall be dispatched after the event type focus. This event type is deprecated in favor of the equivalent event type focusin. 15:26:07 (text of DOMFocusIn) 15:33:05 Why apple is betting their business on HTML5: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/09/19/why_apple_is_betting_on_html_5_a_web_history.html 15:33:49 I personally think the UI events should be defined in a separate UI spec, because the UI events won't occur on my data DOM, but they shouldn't be defined in HTML5, then I prefer DOM Level 3 events 15:34:53 DOM Level3 events should contain the mutation events 15:40:09 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2009Jul/0017.html 15:40:42 (focusin vs DOMFocusIn e-mail we also discussed in July) 15:45:15 zakim, mute me 15:45:15 unl should now be muted 15:45:59 Agenda+new PR comments 15:51:30 http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html 15:51:44 http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-DOM-Level-3-Events-20090908/Overview.html 15:53:59 http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#events-uievent-event-order 15:54:17 http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#events-uievent-event-order 15:54:46 [user shifts focus] focusin (before first target element receives focus) focus (after first target element receives focus) DOMFocusIn (if supported) [user shifts focus] focusout (before first target element loses focus) focusin (before second target element receives focus) blur (after first target element loses focus) DOMFocusOut (if supported) focus (after second target element receives focus) DOMFocusIn (if supported) 16:02:14 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/xforms2009/results 16:02:41 The relationship with XPath 2.0 Functions & Opertor is not clear, and it seems like there will be some trouble reusing existing implementation of this recommandation. That should be clarified. Please update the reference section : * XML Base has now a second edition since january 2009 * XHTML Modularisation has been updated to 1.1 since october 2008 * SOAP Version 1.2 has now a second edition since april 2007 16:03:03 s/ The relationship with XPath 2.0 Functions & Opertor is not clear, and it seems like there will be some trouble reusing existing implementation of this recommandation. That should be clarified. Please update the reference section : * XML Base has now a second edition since january 2009 * XHTML Modularisation has been updated to 1.1 since october 2008 * SOAP Version 1.2 has now a second edition since april 2007// 16:03:45 s/The relationship with XPath 2.0 Functions & Opertor is not clear, and it seems like there will be some trouble reusing existing implementation of this recommandation. That should be clarified. Please update the reference section : * XML Base has now a second edition since january 2009 * XHTML Modularisation has been updated to 1.1 since october 2008 * SOAP Version 1.2 has now a second edition since april 2007// 16:13:15 -Steven 16:18:17 wiecha_ has joined #forms 16:18:27 -[IBM] 16:18:28 -kenneth 16:18:28 -John_Boyer 16:18:29 -unl 16:18:30 - +44.323.821.aabb 16:18:52 rrsagent, make minutes 16:18:52 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/23-forms-minutes.html John_Boyer 16:19:10 John_Boyer has left #forms 16:23:30 disconnecting the lone participant, Leigh_Klotz, in HTML_Forms()10:45AM 16:23:34 HTML_Forms()10:45AM has ended 16:23:36 Attendees were +45.36.95.aaaa, +44.323.821.aabb, kenneth, John_Boyer, Steven, Leigh_Klotz, [IBM], unl