IRC log of xhtml on 2009-09-09
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be IA_XHTML2
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- ok, trackbot; I see IA_XHTML2()9:45AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
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- Meeting: XHTML2 Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 09 September 2009
- 13:44:06 [Steven]
- zakim?
- 13:44:43 [Steven]
- zakim, hello?
- 13:44:43 [Zakim]
- I don't understand your question, Steven.
- 13:44:50 [Steven]
- zakim, code?
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- the conference code is 94865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Steven
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- zakim, who is here?
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- IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has not yet started, Steven
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- On IRC I see RRSAgent, mgylling, Steven, trackbot
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- IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has now started
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- +McCarron
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- zakim, dial steven-617
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- ok, Steven; the call is being made
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- +Steven
- 13:50:52 [mgylling]
- I am on another call that will end soon. Participating in IRC in the meanwhile.
- 13:51:02 [Steven]
- OK
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- Chair: Steven
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- Scribe: Steven
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Sep/0006
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- Topic: DOM3 Events
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- Shane: We had asked them for an event DOMready rather than PageLoaded
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- http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-DOM-Level-3-Events-20090908/
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- Topic: DoC
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- Shane: Issue 6143
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- Steven: For XHTML 1.0? They're not going to let us reissue that
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- Tracker is at http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/voyager-issues.private
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- http://www.w3.org/2009/06/10-xhtml-minutes
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- + +46.7.06.02.aaaa
- 14:00:55 [mgylling]
- Zakim, aaaa is Markus
- 14:00:55 [Zakim]
- +Markus; got it
- 14:03:48 [Steven]
- http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/bjoern-issues.html
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- http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-xhtml-minutes.html
- 14:08:10 [Steven]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/06/10-xhtml-minutes.html
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- http://www.w3.org/2009/06/24-xhtml-minutes.html
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- THose are the meetings where we discussed issues from the tracking system
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- s/TH/Th/
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- Steven: I'm assuming we will produce an (automatic) DoC from the discussions above
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- Shane: We agreed that it was an error, and that we would fix it in a third edition
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- ... (which this wasn't)
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- ... this is issue 6504
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- ... but now we aren't reissuing, we don't have to worry
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- ... (this is his issue 1)
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- SHane: Issue 10
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- s/SH/Sh/
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- -Steven
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- zakim, dial steven-617
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- ok, Steven; the call is being made
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- +Steven
- 14:19:05 [ShaneM]
- we got your voice mail
- 14:19:24 [Steven]
- Low tech crap
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- zakim, dial steven-617
- 14:19:31 [Zakim]
- ok, Steven; the call is being made
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- +Steven.a
- 14:19:38 [ShaneM]
- I can't get it to hang up
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- zakim, drop steven
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- Steven is being disconnected
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- -Steven
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- Steven: In issue 3 we say that 5th edition is deliberately not used
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- Shane: Issue 10 is about normative/non-normative
- 14:21:57 [Steven]
- ... let me do a quick diff
- 14:22:09 [Steven]
- ... I moved XML Names to normative
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- Steven: Do we need separate sections for references?
- 14:24:30 [ShaneM]
- http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/PER-xhtml11-20090507/
- 14:26:03 [Steven]
- Shane: Issue 6288 addresses this; that's your pointer
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- Steven: XHTML1 is referenced in the abstract
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- ... it may have been in section 2.1 originally, which now references the XHTMLMIME document
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- Shane: I have moved it to nonnormative
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- Shane: Namsespaces are referred to in conformance, that is already in the Normative refs
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- Steven: His issue 24
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- ... 1.1 says *and*, print says *or* and basic says *and/or*.
- 14:36:08 [Steven]
- ... I believe *and* is correct
- 14:37:25 [Steven]
- ... because if a document conforms to the DTD but not to the schema, then it contains an error
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- -Steven.a
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- dammir
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- zakim, dial steven-617
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- ok, Steven; the call is being made
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- +Steven
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- Shane: THe schema is more restrictive
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- s/TH/Th/
- 14:40:31 [Steven]
- ... docs that conform to the DTD could fail with the schema, because of datatype checking
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- Steven: Is there anything the DTD can check that the schema can't?
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- Shane: I don't know
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- ... Probably
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- Steven: Possibly
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- Steven: Well that wraps it for the issues I had.
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- ... I'll create a new version, and send it round
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- -Markus
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- -Steven
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- -McCarron
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- Attendees were McCarron, Steven, +46.7.06.02.aaaa, Markus, Steven.a
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- Shane: I'll try and produce the other DoCs in the interim.
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/09/09-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
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