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13:23:14 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see MWI_BPWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
13:23:15 <trackbot> Meeting: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
13:23:15 <trackbot> Date: 25 August 2009
13:23:18 <francois> Chair: francois
13:23:32 <francois> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2009Aug/0014.html
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13:25:16 <francois> Regrets: sangwhan, tom, abel, nacho, DKA, jo
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13:27:31 <jeffs> zakim, aaaa is jeffs
13:27:31 <Zakim> +jeffs; got it
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13:34:59 <Zakim> +yeliz; got it
13:35:18 <yeliz> zakim, mute yeliz
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13:38:09 <jsmanrique> hello, is there call today? it seems so... I haven't received the agenda yet
13:39:08 <francois> Topic: mobileOK Scheme - new note
13:39:17 <francois> Scribe: EdC
13:39:42 <EdC> MobileOK note is on its way! 
13:39:45 <francois> Topic: CT Guidelines - X-Device-* registration
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13:40:16 <francois> ACTION-928?
13:40:16 <trackbot> ACTION-928 -- François Daoust to progress registration of the X- headers irrespective his personal distate for the subject -- due 2009-04-02 -- OPEN
13:40:16 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/928
13:40:18 <EdC> Official request for provisional registration of X-Device fields sent on 2009-08-24. No feedback yet, it should come towards the end of the week.
13:40:29 <francois> Topic: CT Guidelines - Quick actions review 
13:41:03 <francois> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/products/12 Opened actions on CT
13:41:11 <Zakim> +SeanP
13:41:24 <francois> ACTION-1002?
13:41:24 <trackbot> ACTION-1002 -- Sean Patterson to review Jo's updates in draft 1s based on his feedback. When done, actions 975, 976, 977, 978, 979 can be closed -- due 2009-08-18 -- OPEN
13:41:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/1002
13:41:25 <EdC> Main outstanding actions on CTG.
13:41:42 <francois> close ACTION-1002
13:41:42 <trackbot> ACTION-1002 Review Jo's updates in draft 1s based on his feedback. When done, actions 975, 976, 977, 978, 979 can be closed closed
13:41:53 <EdC> Jo did whatever was needed regarding action 1002.
13:41:53 <jeffs> +1
13:41:57 <francois> close ACTION-975
13:41:57 <trackbot> ACTION-975 Correct SeanP's point 2 closed
13:41:59 <francois> close ACTION-976
13:41:59 <trackbot> ACTION-976 Enact Seanp's point 4 closed
13:42:00 <francois> close ACTION-977
13:42:01 <trackbot> ACTION-977 Check and correct spelling of "XMLHttpRequest" as necessary closed
13:42:02 <francois> close ACTION-978
13:42:02 <trackbot> ACTION-978 Enact point 7 of seanp's email closed
13:42:04 <francois> close ACTION-979
13:42:06 <trackbot> ACTION-979 Enact point 8 of Sean's email closed
13:42:42 <francois> ACTION-982?
13:42:42 <trackbot> ACTION-982 -- Eduardo Casais to propose some specific text ref ISSUE-298 -- due 2009-06-23 -- OPEN
13:42:42 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/982
13:43:18 <francois> -> http://www.w3.org/2009/06/30-bpwg-minutes.html#item06 Minutes of 30 June call
13:44:15 <francois> close ACTION-982
13:44:15 <trackbot> ACTION-982 Propose some specific text ref ISSUE-298 closed
13:44:28 <EdC> Regarding action 982: a resolution was taken but not yet implemented in the text of the CTG. The original action can be nevertheless closed.
13:44:46 <EdC> Most actions are on Jo or François. 
13:44:50 <francois> ISSUE-298?
13:44:50 <trackbot> ISSUE-298 -- With reference to Eduardo's point about linked stylesheets, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2009May/0011.html, we need to review in the light of an earlier decision on images and possibly aslo in light of a recursion problem with link rel= -- OPEN
13:44:50 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/298
13:45:58 <francois> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: close ISSUE-298, see resolution taken on 30 June 2009 re linked stylesheets for ACTION-982.
13:46:01 <EdC> The action 298 is related to 982 and was handled simultaneously.
13:46:13 <EdC> +1
13:46:15 <francois> +1
13:46:16 <jeffs> +1
13:46:27 <EdC> RESOLUTION: close ISSUE-298, see resolution taken on 30 June 2009 re linked stylesheets for ACTION-982.
13:46:31 <jeffs> +1
13:46:33 <francois> close ISSUE-298
13:46:33 <trackbot> ISSUE-298 With reference to Eduardo's point about linked stylesheets, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2009May/0011.html, we need to review in the light of an earlier decision on images and possibly aslo in light of a recursion problem with link rel= closed
13:47:04 <francois> Topic: MWABP - Quick actions review
13:47:15 <francois> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/products/14 Opened actions on MWABP
13:48:48 <jeffs> close it, we are done
13:48:53 <francois> ACTION-876?
13:48:53 <trackbot> ACTION-876 -- Jeffrey Sonstein to send to Jeff list of test cases that Jeff can inflict on a grad student. -- due 2008-10-25 -- PENDINGREVIEW
13:48:53 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/876
13:49:04 <francois> close ACTION-876
13:49:04 <trackbot> ACTION-876 Send to Jeff list of test cases that Jeff can inflict on a grad student. closed
13:49:28 <EdC> Going through some long pending actions. Many of them had been already discussed in previous meetings, but not closed.
13:49:31 <francois> ACTION-904?
13:49:31 <trackbot> ACTION-904 -- Jeffrey Sonstein to initiate discussion on his blog ref feedback on the MWABP -- due 2009-02-17 -- OPEN
13:49:31 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/904
13:49:40 <francois> close ACTION-904
13:49:40 <trackbot> ACTION-904 Initiate discussion on his blog ref feedback on the MWABP closed
13:49:51 <francois> ACTION-910?
13:49:51 <trackbot> ACTION-910 -- Jeffrey Sonstein to get review canvas tag materials and suggest how/if to address in BP -- due 2009-03-10 -- OPEN
13:49:51 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/910
13:49:53 <jeffs> yes
13:50:15 <jeffs> I will work on this over the next wk - 2
13:50:23 <francois> ACTION-918?
13:50:23 <trackbot> ACTION-918 -- Daniel Appelquist to write a relevant section at Webapps Wiki to act as reference for On MWABP 1.3.2 DKA -- due 2009-04-01 -- OPEN
13:50:23 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/918
13:50:26 <EdC> Action on Canvas/SVG is the last point still requiring main work.
13:50:26 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - on
13:50:46 <EdC> Issue on Canvas/SVG is the last point still requiring main work.
13:53:30 <EdC> There was no real definition of widgets. The goal was to insert a small section in Webapps Wiki to define what widgets are. 
13:53:44 <francois> -> http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/CR-widgets-20090723/ Widgets 1.0 Packaging spec
13:54:31 <EdC> Since there is a document (Widgets 1.0 Packaging spec), we might possibly interpret 918 as inserting references to this new spec into the MWABP. 
13:54:43 <jeffs> agree w EdC
13:54:55 <EdC> The action 918 is left open till Dan can close it.
13:55:00 <jeffs> 910 & 924 are really the same thing
13:55:27 <francois> ACTION-957?
13:55:27 <trackbot> ACTION-957 -- Adam Connors to draft a BP on login forms adapting previous resolutions on the topic for discussion -- due 2009-05-05 -- OPEN
13:55:27 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/957
13:55:41 <francois> ACTION-958?
13:55:41 <trackbot> ACTION-958 -- Jeffrey Sonstein to review some of the 3.4 & 3.5 examples from the perspective of the average developer and report -- due 2009-05-18 -- OPEN
13:55:41 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/958
13:55:44 <jeffs> 958 is on me & will do ASAP
13:56:06 <francois> ACTION-995?
13:56:06 <trackbot> ACTION-995 -- Adam Connors to look through J.J.'s email and apply additional text as necessary to reflect the additional desireable goals as a note after each individual BP. -- due 2009-07-14 -- PENDINGREVIEW
13:56:06 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/995
13:56:37 <EdC> Regarding action 995, there has been no feedback from Jonathan for a couple of weeks. We can consider the action discharged.
13:56:44 <francois> close ACTION-995
13:56:44 <trackbot> ACTION-995 Look through J.J.'s email and apply additional text as necessary to reflect the additional desireable goals as a note after each individual BP. closed
13:57:18 <francois> ISSUE-290?
13:57:18 <trackbot> ISSUE-290 -- Desirable Goal of MWABP statements -- OPEN
13:57:18 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/290
13:57:38 <EdC> Since the action has been dealt with, the original issue can be considered as addressed as well.
13:59:19 <francois> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: re. desirable goal of MWABP statements, the latest MWABP draft captures the concepts as mentioned in Adam's email. Close ISSUE-290.
13:59:36 <EdC> +1
13:59:38 <francois> +1
13:59:40 <jeffs> +1
13:59:53 <EdC> RESOLUTION: re. desirable goal of MWABP statements, the latest MWABP draft captures the concepts as mentioned in Adam's email. Close ISSUE-290.
14:00:00 <francois> close ISSUE-290
14:00:00 <trackbot> ISSUE-290 Desirable Goal of MWABP statements closed
14:00:21 <francois> ACTION-997?
14:00:21 <trackbot> ACTION-997 -- Adam Connors to write first text based on the listserve discussion of Media Queries -- due 2009-07-21 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:00:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/997
14:01:18 <EdC> We left action 997 open till Adam can gather all feedback and integrate the modification into a new version of the MWABP document.
14:01:23 <francois> ACTION-997 still open as the section requires some fine-tuning, in particular re. warning on media types.
14:01:36 <francois> ACTION-998?
14:01:37 <trackbot> ACTION-998 -- Adam Connors to extract some useful info from the discussion around ACTION-790 and add it to the doc -- due 2009-07-21 -- OPEN
14:01:37 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/998
14:02:31 <francois> ACTION-790?
14:02:31 <trackbot> ACTION-790 -- Alan Chuter to produce some text around accessibility of Javascript for Web Application Best Practices -- due 2008-07-03 -- CLOSED
14:02:31 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/790
14:02:33 <EdC> It regards Javascript and accessibility of Web applications. 
14:03:06 <francois> ACTION-911?
14:03:06 <trackbot> ACTION-911 -- Jeffrey Sonstein to get Prof. Bogaard at RIT to review SVG materials and suggest how/if to address in BP -- due 2009-03-10 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:03:06 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/911
14:04:51 <EdC> There had been material collected, but it has not been evaluated yet. Jeff will deal with this issue in the context of Canvas and SVG.
14:05:16 <francois> ACTION-885?
14:05:16 <trackbot> ACTION-885 -- Jeffrey Sonstein to draft a response to ETSI ref his 2 main issues as discussed under ACTION-875 -- due 2008-11-20 -- OPEN
14:05:16 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/885
14:05:35 <francois> ACTION-875?
14:05:35 <trackbot> ACTION-875 -- Jeffrey Sonstein to scope current draft and see what aspects may be of interest to us. -- due 2008-10-27 -- CLOSED
14:05:35 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/875
14:06:36 <EdC> The deadline to respond to ETSI has probably been missed, so the point has become moot. Jeff will catch up with these older actions and issues.
14:06:57 <francois> Topic: Addendum to MWBP - Status update
14:07:07 <francois> No news.
14:07:26 <Zakim> -jeffs
14:07:37 <EdC> At this stage, we must wait for Adam/Dan/Jo to be present for further discussions.
14:07:52 <yeliz> zakim, unmute yeliz
14:07:52 <Zakim> yeliz should no longer be muted
14:07:58 <Zakim> -francois
14:08:01 <Zakim> -SeanP
14:08:10 <Zakim> -yeliz
14:08:13 <Zakim> -EdC
14:08:14 <Zakim> MWI_BPWG()9:30AM has ended
14:08:15 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.585.278.aaaa, jeffs, francois, EdC, yeliz, SeanP
14:08:22 <francois> RRSAgent, draft minutes
14:08:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/08/25-bpwg-minutes.html francois
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16:39:36 <francois> RRSAgent, bye
16:39:36 <RRSAgent> I see no action items