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18:59:47 <aphillip> zakim, this will be I18n
18:59:47 <Zakim> ok, aphillip; I see I18N_CoreWG()3:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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19:00:04 <aphillip> Meeting: Internationalization Core Teleconference
19:00:08 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
19:00:19 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
19:00:27 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
19:00:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/08/19-core-minutes.html aphillip
19:01:15 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()3:00PM has now started
19:01:22 <Zakim> + +1.303.945.aaaa
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19:01:52 <YvesS> zakim, 303.945.aaaa is YvesS
19:01:52 <Zakim> sorry, YvesS, I do not recognize a party named '303.945.aaaa'
19:01:55 <Zakim> +??P0
19:02:03 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
19:02:03 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
19:02:05 <Zakim> +Richard
19:02:08 <YvesS> zakim, 1.303.945.aaaa is YvesS
19:02:08 <Zakim> sorry, YvesS, I do not recognize a party named '1.303.945.aaaa'
19:02:17 <Zakim> +addison
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19:02:23 <YvesS> zakim, 1.303.945 is YvesS
19:02:23 <Zakim> sorry, YvesS, I do not recognize a party named '1.303.945'
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19:04:53 <aphillip> Topic: Agenda
19:05:14 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
19:05:17 <Zakim> +[Oracle]
19:05:27 <aphillip> Richard: respond on our behalf to CSS on ruby issue 
19:05:31 <aphillip> getting close though
19:05:43 <aphillip> addison: set up document edit transition with dan for ws-i18n 
19:06:04 <aphillip> richard: publish i18n-guide-frameword as (retired, obsolete) WD 
19:06:25 <aphillip> waiting for Ian to return... he's just back.. so soon
19:06:35 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
19:07:01 <aphillip> the new bcp 47 is to be published RFC 5646 RSN
19:07:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/08/19-core-minutes.html aphillip
19:07:51 <aphillip> richard: plugging away at bidi thing
19:07:55 <aphillip> ... techniques doc
19:08:18 <aphillip> ... and warning us that he's pretty darn close to finishing
19:08:29 <aphillip> ... so any comments should be make now
19:08:38 <aphillip> ... working on notes doc that techniques links to
19:08:44 <aphillip> richard: related to bcp47
19:08:47 <r12a> http://rishida.net/utils/subtags/
19:08:56 <aphillip> richard: working hard on updating it
19:09:06 <aphillip> ... language tag search tool
19:09:29 <aphillip> ... trying to make it so that people can understand how to make/not make language tags
19:09:41 <aphillip> ... providing error and warnings when checking tags
19:10:10 <aphillip> ... plus links to ethnologue, uniview for language and script subtags as appropriate
19:10:21 <aphillip> ... want to write an article along side it
19:10:31 <aphillip> ... on how to choose language tags
19:10:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/08/19-core-minutes.html aphillip
19:11:34 <aphillip> Topic: HTML 5 old issues
19:11:35 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2009Aug/0005.html
19:11:52 <aphillip> html5 guys trying to close out some issues
19:12:09 <r12a> ISSUE-11: default-encoding
19:12:09 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/11
19:12:09 <r12a> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Aug/0697.html
19:12:25 <aphillip> default encoding is the issue that concerns us
19:12:29 <aphillip> need to decide on this
19:12:52 <r12a> [[
19:12:54 <r12a> Otherwise, return an implementation-defined or user-specified default character encoding, with the confidence  tentative. In non-legacy environments, the more comprehensive UTF-8 encoding is recommended. Due to its use in legacy content, windows-1252 is recommended as a default in predominantly Western demographics instead. Since these encodings can in many cases be distinguished by inspection, a user agent may heuristically decide which to use as a default. 
19:12:56 <r12a> ]]
19:13:40 <aphillip> hmm...
19:13:52 <aphillip> I would s/these encodings/UTF-8
19:14:14 <aphillip> richard: what are legacy environment and Western demographic
19:17:27 <aphillip> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#determining0
19:17:45 <r12a> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#determining-the-character-encoding
19:20:59 <aphillip> item 7 is the browser's default setting, e.g. the view > encodings menu
19:32:12 <dchiba> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#character-encodings-0
19:43:25 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: to write a response proposing new text for html5 immediately following call for forwarding today
19:44:17 <aphillip> richard: we need to start looking at html5 in earnest
19:44:46 <aphillip> ... asap
19:45:02 <aphillip> addison: thinks we need to pull out material on supersets as a separate document
19:46:07 <aphillip> ACTION: all: review HTML5 (rolling action item to be reviewed weekly)
19:46:59 <aphillip> richard intends to ask to publish bidi techniques next week
19:47:33 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
19:47:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/08/19-core-minutes.html aphillip
19:50:14 <Zakim> -andrewc
19:50:16 <Zakim> -addison
19:50:16 <Zakim> -[Oracle]
19:50:17 <Zakim> -Felix
19:50:19 <Zakim> -YvesS
19:50:23 <Zakim> -Richard
19:50:24 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()3:00PM has ended
19:50:25 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.303.945.aaaa, Felix, Richard, addison, YvesS, andrewc, [Oracle]
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19:51:46 <r12a> hey, addison
19:52:01 <r12a> will you be at the unicode editorial mtg tomorrow ?
19:55:50 <r12a> aphillip ?
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