IRC log of ws-ra on 2009-08-18
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/08/18-ws-ra-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be WSRA
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- ok, trackbot; I see WS_WSRA()3:30PM scheduled to start in 13 minutes
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- Meeting: Web Services Resource Access Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 18 August 2009
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- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Aug/0037.html
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- chair: Bob Freund
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- WS_WSRA()3:30PM has now started
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- + +25625660aaaa
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- +Doug_Davis
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- Zakim, aaaa is PaulN
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- +PaulN; got it
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- +Bob_Freund
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- + +984999aabb
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- - +984999aabb
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- +Tom_Rutt
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- + +1.408.970.aacc
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- + +984999aadd
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- zakim, aacc is fmaciel
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- +fmaciel; got it
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- zakim, aacc is Sreed
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- sorry, Bob, I do not recognize a party named 'aacc'
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- +Wu_Chou
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- +Vikas
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- zakim aacc is Sreed
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- zakim, aadd is Sreed
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- +Sreed; got it
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- +Yves
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- +Ashok_Malhotra
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- + +1.408.642.aaee
- 19:35:08 [dug]
- Ashok - your pretty tough!
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- Bob is looking to cause more divorces
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- +[Microsoft]
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- zakim, aaee is vikas
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- +vikas; got it
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- +Mark_Little
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- do you see that?
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- I think Ram just asked to scribe :-)
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- scribe: Paul Nolan
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- scribenick: PaulN
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- q+
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- ack dug
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- Yves has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Aug/0037.html
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- Agenda is accepted
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- q+
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- ack ram
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- RESOLUTION: All three sets of minutes from F2F are accepted
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- Bob: need chair for 8th Sept - Yves?
- 19:44:23 [dug]
- you skipped a few topics
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- Bob: Yves will let group know if he can not make it.
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- Yves: Partial put will be done by end Aygust
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- -vikas
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- Bob: 6724 Doug will complete 28th August
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- +vikas.a
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- zakim, vikas.a is gpilz
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- +gpilz; got it
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- Bob has reviewed the expected completion dats of outstanding issues
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- TOPIC: Hursley Face to Face
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- I've fixed ALL of the typos that Ram noticed.
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- Paul will post details for travel
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- do people prefer WS-Fragment or WS-Fragments ?
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- TOPIC: July Snapshot
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- WS-Fragment
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- +1 Yves
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- +1
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- q+
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- Bob: "WS-Fragment" will be used
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- ack ram
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- Ram: more time requested
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- for MEX and RT
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- TOPIC: initial draft of WS-Fragment spec
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- Doug: can people plese review
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- Bob: should we accept the spec and raise issues for open questions?
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- s/plese/please/
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- Bob: next week we will review this proposed draft
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- TOPIC: new issues
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- zakim, whi is making noise
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- I don't understand 'whi is making noise', Bob
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- zakim, who is making noise
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- I don't understand 'who is making noise', Bob
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- Bob: no objections to opening new issue 7235
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- -Mark_Little
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- Unless otherwise noted, all URIs are absolute URIs and URI comparison MUST be
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- performed according to [RFC 3986] section 6.2.1.
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- Doug: new issue 7270. Specs consistency issue
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- Bob: new issue accepted
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- TOPIC: issue-6403
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2009Aug/0033.html
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- Bob: we need to resolve an important question before going too far
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- Ashok: reviewed two points he has raised
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- q+
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- ack wu
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- wu: should only EP related policies will be attached inside the EPR
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- Ashok: only EPR related policies should be attached in the proposed way
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- q+
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- ack paul
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- q+
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- q+
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- ack dug
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- ack wu
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- q+
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- wu: to clarify. we will define a namespace?
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- q+
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- Wu: one namespace fo all specs?
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- ack bob
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- +1 one NS per spec
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- +1
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- +1
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- +1 Bob
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- Bob: should we do one namespace per spec?
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- ack ram
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- Bob: do we more or less agree on the proposed direction?
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- q+
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- ack paul
- 20:17:22 [Wu]
- Bob's point as I understand (agree) is to have one policy namespace per spec for ease maintenance.
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- q+
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- ack wu
- 20:17:48 [Ashok]
- I think that would be fine
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- Bob: are we agreed on direction?
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- no
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- TOPIC: issue-7206
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- s/no/no moved up a fe lines
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- In cases where it is either desirable or necessary for the receiver of a request that has been extended to indicate that it has recognized and accepted the semantics associated with that extension, implementers are encouraged to add a corresponding extension to the response message.
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- (that's Gil's text)
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- Ram's text: In cases where it is either desirable or necessary for the receiver of a request that has been extended to indicate that it has recognized and accepted the semantics associated with that extension, it is recommended that the receiver add a corresponding extension to the response message. The definition of an extension should clearly specify how the extension that appears in the...
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- ...response correlates with that in the corresponding request.
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- Gpilz: reviewed proposal
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- q+
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- ack wu
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- q+
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- ack dug
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- Doug: is this issue specific to just the one spec?
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- Gpilz: All specs affected
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- no objections to proposal
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- 7206 will be extended to all specs
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- RESOLUTION: proposal accepted
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- TOPIC: issue-7204
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- +1 to cwna
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- q+
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- +1 to cwna
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- ack ram
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- -Sreed
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- q+
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- ack gp
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- q+
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- Gpilz: complexity is dealt with by explicity stating cobinations of extensions that are supported.
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- ack wu
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- Wu: how do we advertise these extensions?
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- Gpilz: each new extension defines itself
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- Wu: should we use Policy?
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- Wu: should we use WSDL to advertise?
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- Bob: notes that WS-Policy should be used for extensions
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- RESOLUTION: no action
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- q+
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- ack ram
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- TOPIC: isue-71??
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- s/??/60
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- -Issue-7160 Eventing:check 2119 terms http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7160 -Davis
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- TOPIC: isue-7191
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- RESOLUTION: as proposed
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- TOPIC: isue-7193
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- RESOLUTION: as proposed
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- TOPIC: isue-7195
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- RESOLUTION: as proposed
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- TOPIC: isue-7196
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- q+
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- ack dug
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- RESOLUTION: as proposed
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- TOPIC: isue-7197
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- RESOLUTION: as proposed
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- TOPIC: isue-6401
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- -Vikas
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- -[Microsoft]
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- -Wu_Chou
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- -Tom_Rutt
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- -gpilz
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- -fmaciel
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- -Doug_Davis
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- -Bob_Freund
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- -PaulN
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- -Ashok_Malhotra
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- -Yves
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- rrsagent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/08/18-ws-ra-minutes.html Bob
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- WS_WSRA()3:30PM has ended
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- Attendees were +25625660aaaa, Doug_Davis, PaulN, Bob_Freund, +984999aabb, Tom_Rutt, +1.408.970.aacc, +984999aadd, fmaciel, Wu_Chou, Vikas, Sreed, Yves, Ashok_Malhotra,
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- ... +1.408.642.aaee, [Microsoft], Mark_Little, gpilz
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- rrsagent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/08/18-ws-ra-minutes.html Bob
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