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14:51:15 <wiecha> Meeting: Rich Web Application Backplane telecon
14:51:19 <wiecha> Chair: Charlie Wiecha
14:51:36 <wiecha> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-app-backplane/2009Jul/0000.html
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14:58:19 <Zakim> +[IBM]
14:58:27 <wiecha> zakim, [IBM] is wiecha
14:58:27 <Zakim> +wiecha; got it
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14:59:17 <Steven> as usual, just finishing off earlier call
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15:03:45 <jackjansen> zakim, code?
15:03:46 <Zakim> the conference code is 7922 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), jackjansen
15:03:49 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
15:03:52 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
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15:04:26 <Zakim> + +31.20.592.aaaa
15:04:33 <jackjansen> zakim, aaaa is me
15:04:33 <Zakim> +jackjansen; got it
15:10:08 <wiecha> Scribe: Steven
15:10:28 <Steven> Topic: ODF
15:11:17 <Steven> Charlie: I've been cooking some ideas on using ODF as an interaction formnat
15:11:39 <Steven> ... our short paper has been accepted at the Open Documents conference
15:11:53 <Steven> s/formnat/format
15:12:14 <Steven> ... we're thinking os including a tiny bit of ODF in the finace demo
15:12:15 <wiecha> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/app-backplane/wiki/Link_to_page_on_Financial_Services_demo_application
15:12:21 <Steven> s/finace/finance/
15:12:42 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/app-backplane/wiki/images/b/b6/Expense-report.pdf
15:12:48 <wiecha> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-app-backplane/2009May/0005.html
15:13:17 <Steven> Charlie: Image of the demo at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-app-backplane/2009May/att-0005/finance-app.gif
15:15:03 <Steven> Charlie: What we're thinking of doing with the ODF bit is a projection on the repeat
15:15:17 <Steven> ... using ODF's XForms to import the expense data
15:15:47 <jackjansen> q+
15:15:55 <Steven> ... Look at page 2 of the pdf
15:16:20 <Steven> Jack: How are you integrating?
15:16:23 <John_Boyer> ack jackjansen
15:16:49 <Steven> Charlie: XForms model is in ODF, but not repeat
15:17:01 <Steven> ... I don't use repeat in this example
15:17:26 <Steven> ... I don't have much time to implement this
15:17:48 <Steven> ... but a refinement can add other things like repeat and switch-case
15:18:05 <Steven> ... we have a deadline of Oct 8 for this XG
15:18:54 <Steven> Charlie: It is fairly simple data substution
15:19:06 <Steven> s/stu/stitu
15:19:37 <Steven> ... interesting from a Ubiquity point of view, such as the table of contents
15:20:52 <Steven> ... the main point is showing that you can use existing browsers for extensible content
15:27:58 <Steven> Steven: On that point, I think that part of our output is the need to define an architecture of a Javascript-based extensibility
15:28:22 <Steven> ... so that people can write modules and know they will work when they plug them in
15:28:38 <Steven> ... and furthermore, we need a snappy name for it, like AJAX is, that encapsulates the mem
15:28:44 <Steven> s/mem/meme/
15:28:52 <Steven> Charlie: I agree
15:29:29 <Steven> Topic: Update on plans/impl for SMIL
15:29:56 <Steven> jack: I've been too busy on other projects to do much
15:30:07 <Steven> Charlie: Timeline?
15:30:45 <Steven> s/jack/Jack/
15:31:26 <Steven> Jack: I have lots to do; but if I can use the video tag in FF 3.5, it shouldn't take too much time
15:31:59 <Steven> Charlie: I'm here next week, then out for a week
15:32:10 <Steven> Jack: And then I'm gone for three weeks
15:32:35 <Steven> ... can we define what it is we need to achieve, because I can give it at most 4 weeks
15:32:43 <Steven> ... (paying projects get priority)
15:32:44 <Zakim> -Steven
15:32:50 <Steven> Steven's battery dies
15:33:32 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
15:33:32 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
15:33:34 <Zakim> +Steven
15:33:47 <Steven> Sorry about that; back
15:34:25 <Steven> Jack: Maybe we can discuss later this week, to discuss what is possible now with Uniquity SMIL
15:34:35 <Steven> s/Un/Ub/
15:34:54 <Steven> jack: The least I can do is package the code  - I'll do it tonight
15:35:02 <Steven> s/jac/Jack/
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15:35:11 <Steven> ADJOURN
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15:35:19 <Steven> s/Jackk/Jack
15:35:34 <Steven> zakim, list participants
15:35:34 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been wiecha, John_Boyer, Steven, +31.20.592.aaaa, jackjansen
15:35:41 <wiecha> rrsagent, make minutes
15:35:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/07-backplane-minutes.html wiecha
15:35:42 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
15:35:42 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
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15:47:56 <Zakim> Attendees were wiecha, John_Boyer, Steven, +31.20.592.aaaa, jackjansen
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