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12:21:59 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes
12:22:00 <trackbot> Meeting: Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group Teleconference
12:22:00 <trackbot> Date: 01 July 2009
12:23:35 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009Jun/0101.html
12:23:41 <shadi> chair: Shadi
12:23:54 <shadi> agenda+ EARL 1.0 Guide
12:23:58 <shadi> agenda+ EARL 1.0 Schema
12:24:08 <shadi> agenda+ Document cleanup
12:24:22 <shadi> agenda+ Upcoming availability
12:24:30 <shadi> agenda+ Next meetings
12:25:49 <JohannesK> JohannesK has joined #er
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12:28:00 <shadi> zakim, call shadi-617
12:28:00 <Zakim> ok, shadi; the call is being made
12:28:01 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has now started
12:28:02 <Zakim> +Shadi
12:28:32 <Zakim> +MikeS
12:28:44 <squillace> zakim, MikeS is squillace
12:28:44 <Zakim> +squillace; got it
12:29:51 <Zakim> +CarlosV
12:30:03 <JohannesK> zakim, CarlosV is rellay me
12:30:03 <Zakim> I don't understand 'CarlosV is rellay me', JohannesK
12:30:13 <JohannesK> zakim, CarlosV is really me
12:30:13 <Zakim> +JohannesK; got it
12:30:23 <carlosI> carlosI has joined #er
12:32:45 <Zakim> +manrique
12:33:01 <carlosI> zakim manrique is really carlosI
12:33:07 <carlosI> zakim, manrique is really carlosI
12:33:07 <Zakim> +carlosI; got it
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12:34:54 <Zakim> +JohannesK.a
12:36:24 <shadi> scribe: carlosI
12:36:32 <shadi> agenda?
12:36:49 <cvelasco> zakim, johannesk.a is really cvelasco
12:36:49 <Zakim> +cvelasco; got it
12:37:09 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 1
12:37:09 <Zakim> agendum 1. "EARL 1.0 Guide" taken up [from shadi]
12:37:10 <carlosI> SAZ: added an agenda item about future availability
12:37:26 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/WD-EARL10-Guide-20090629
12:37:58 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009Jul/0001.html
12:38:47 <carlosI> CV: have discussed the issue with JK
12:39:03 <carlosI> CV: would like to show both possibilities
12:39:19 <carlosI> CV: the problem is that this is not a real base64
12:39:32 <carlosI> CV: need to convert before publishing
12:42:01 <carlosI> JK:  example 3.21 make reference to a Base64 content of example 3.19 with a LineCharPointer
12:42:23 <carlosI> JK: not much sense in using a LineCharPointer for a Base64 content
12:44:46 <carlosI> SAZ: the quick fix is to change Base64 content to ContentAsText
12:45:33 <carlosI> SAZ: try the simplest fix that address JK concerns
12:47:06 <carlosI> CV: there are some open issues
12:47:25 <carlosI> SAZ: please forward that to the list
12:48:52 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009Jun/0097.html
12:50:14 <carlosI> MS: the guide still talks about the EARL "framework"
12:50:34 <carlosI> MS: think we need to be consistent before LC publication
12:50:44 <shadi> action: cvelasco to address the issue raised by Johannes on example 3.21
12:50:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-102 - Address the issue raised by Johannes on example 3.21 [on Carlos A. Velasco - due 2009-07-08].
12:51:11 <shadi> action: cvelasco to adopt the common definition for EARL, especially in the abstract section
12:51:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-103 - Adopt the common definition for EARL, especially in the abstract section [on Carlos A. Velasco - due 2009-07-08].
12:52:08 <JohannesK> <http://www.w3.org/2009/05/13-er-minutes>
12:52:08 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009Jul/0002.html
12:52:13 <carlosI> MS: there also reference to the aggregation of test results that should be rewritten due to our discussions about aggregation
12:53:49 <carlosI> SAZ: let's see CV's questions
12:53:56 <shadi> [Download code for example X.Y]
12:54:25 <shadi> [Download RDF for example X.Y]
12:55:21 <shadi> action: cvelasco to disambiguate link text for example code files
12:55:21 <trackbot> Created ACTION-104 - Disambiguate link text for example code files [on Carlos A. Velasco - due 2009-07-08].
12:56:09 <shadi> action: shadi to add aligning references to issue 17
12:56:09 <trackbot> Created ACTION-105 - Add aligning references to issue 17 [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-07-08].
12:59:06 <shadi> action: cvelasco to ensure that all comments on the Guide so far have been addressed
12:59:06 <trackbot> Created ACTION-106 - Ensure that all comments on the Guide so far have been addressed [on Carlos A. Velasco - due 2009-07-08].
13:00:17 <carlosI> SAZ: would keep the xpath pointers examples to later
13:00:55 <carlosI> CV: need more examples or more depth?
13:01:06 <carlosI> MS: think is right for now
13:01:35 <carlosI> MS: need to elaborate in general, but can be done after publication
13:02:17 <carlosI> SAZ: come back to MS' aggregation comment
13:05:44 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/WD-EARL10-Requirements-20090526
13:10:25 <carlosI> MS: if we get rid of "enable" in the introduction it may suffice
13:10:36 <shadi> action: cvelasco to move the sentence "EARL enables the:" in section 2 to its own <p> (to be more clear)
13:10:36 <trackbot> Created ACTION-107 - Move the sentence "EARL enables the:" in section 2 to its own <p> (to be more clear) [on Carlos A. Velasco - due 2009-07-08].
13:11:30 <shadi> line 1414 (link without target)
13:11:31 <carlosI> SAZ: there is a link without target
13:11:47 <shadi> line 309 (id mismatch)
13:13:20 <carlosI> MS: there must be something between pass and fail
13:13:45 <carlosI> SAZ: had the discussion before
13:14:02 <carlosI> SAZ: can come back to that later
13:15:47 <carlosI> SAZ: any objection to publish the guide working draft?
13:15:57 <carlosI> SAZ: it would be a WG note
13:20:07 <carlosI> RESOLUTION: publish the EARL guide as a working group note pending changes recorded in the minutes
13:20:33 <shadi> zakim, take up next
13:20:33 <Zakim> agendum 2. "EARL 1.0 Schema" taken up [from shadi]
13:20:45 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/WD-EARL10-Schema-20090629
13:21:16 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009Jun/0091
13:21:31 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/WD-EARL10-Schema-20090629#conformance
13:21:55 <carlosI> SAZ: there are substantial changes in the conformance section
13:22:39 <cvelasco> I am on it
13:23:11 <carlosI> SAZ: any comment?
13:24:06 <carlosI> JK: HTTP in RDF requires Content in RDF conformance
13:24:44 <shadi> action: shadi to remove Content-in-RDF conformance and explain that it is part of HTTP-in-RDF conformance
13:24:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-108 - Remove Content-in-RDF conformance and explain that it is part of HTTP-in-RDF conformance [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-07-08].
13:25:30 <carlosI> RESOLUTION: the conformance section has been accepted
13:26:30 <JohannesK> JK: typo in 4.4 second bullet: Mesage -> Message
13:27:12 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009Jun/0095
13:28:12 <carlosI> SAZ: do people think that owl imports are essentials before publication?
13:28:41 <carlosI> MS: don't think is essential, would like to talk with SW folks about this
13:28:59 <carlosI> CV: can live with that
13:29:24 <carlosI> SAZ: is easier to put things in than out
13:29:45 <shadi> action: shadi to update DC prefix to DCT
13:29:45 <trackbot> Created ACTION-109 - Update DC prefix to DCT [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-07-08].
13:30:50 <shadi> action: shadi to add editors notes on owl:imports in SOTD and conformance section
13:30:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-110 - Add editors notes on owl:imports in SOTD and conformance section [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-07-08].
13:32:05 <carlosI> SAZ: anybody objects to publish as a LAST CALL WD?
13:32:46 <JohannesK> Fanfare
13:33:01 <carlosI> RESOLUTION: publish EARL 1.0 schema as a last call working draft
13:36:10 <carlosI> SAZ: there will be 8 weeks of review period due to summer brake
13:36:24 <shadi> zakim, up agendum 4
13:36:24 <Zakim> I don't understand 'up agendum 4', shadi
13:36:29 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 4
13:36:29 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Upcoming availability" taken up [from shadi]
13:36:52 <squillace> out Aug 7-17
13:37:09 <carlosI> travelling next week
13:37:23 <squillace> possible conflict next week, Jul 8
13:37:34 <shadi> i'm planning to be off 2 weeks in august
13:37:38 <carlosI> out 13 July- 12 August
13:38:01 <JohannesK> probably out 21 Aug - 1 Sep
13:38:56 <cvelasco> away 9-31 July
13:39:15 <Zakim> -cvelasco
13:39:24 <Zakim> -squillace
13:39:27 <Zakim> -JohannesK
13:39:28 <Zakim> -Shadi
13:39:35 <Zakim> -carlosI
13:39:36 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has ended
13:39:38 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, squillace, JohannesK, carlosI, cvelasco
13:40:13 <shadi> trackbot, end meeting
13:40:13 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
13:40:13 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
13:40:14 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
13:40:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/07/01-er-minutes.html trackbot
13:40:15 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
13:40:15 <RRSAgent> I see 9 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/01-er-actions.rdf :
13:40:15 <RRSAgent> ACTION: cvelasco to address the issue raised by Johannes on example 3.21 [1]
13:40:15 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/01-er-irc#T12-50-44
13:40:15 <RRSAgent> ACTION: cvelasco to adopt the common definition for EARL, especially in the abstract section [2]
13:40:15 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/01-er-irc#T12-51-11
13:40:15 <RRSAgent> ACTION: cvelasco to disambiguate link text for example code files [3]
13:40:15 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/01-er-irc#T12-55-21
13:40:15 <RRSAgent> ACTION: shadi to add aligning references to issue 17 [4]
13:40:15 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/01-er-irc#T12-56-09
13:40:15 <RRSAgent> ACTION: cvelasco to ensure that all comments on the Guide so far have been addressed [5]
13:40:15 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/01-er-irc#T12-59-06
13:40:15 <RRSAgent> ACTION: cvelasco to move the sentence "EARL enables the:" in section 2 to its own <p> (to be more clear) [6]
13:40:15 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/01-er-irc#T13-10-36
13:40:15 <RRSAgent> ACTION: shadi to remove Content-in-RDF conformance and explain that it is part of HTTP-in-RDF conformance [7]
13:40:15 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/01-er-irc#T13-24-44
13:40:15 <RRSAgent> ACTION: shadi to update DC prefix to DCT [8]
13:40:15 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/01-er-irc#T13-29-45
13:40:15 <RRSAgent> ACTION: shadi to add editors notes on owl:imports in SOTD and conformance section [9]
13:40:15 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/07/01-er-irc#T13-30-50