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15:21:43 <MichaelC> scribe: Andi
15:21:54 <MichaelC> meeting: ARIA User Agent Implementation Task Force
15:21:59 <MichaelC> chair: Cynthia_Shelly
15:22:05 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make log public
15:22:17 <Andi> DB: is SHOULD strong enough in first sentence?
15:23:35 <Andi> Change to MUST
15:25:10 <Andi> CS: first para - think about how control types and patterns fit into (bug - assign to cyns)
15:25:50 <Andi> Change "User agents SHOULD notify AT.." to MUST
15:26:45 <Andi> 3.2 - change SHOULD to MUST
15:27:27 <Andi> change "MAY always expose" to "MAY expose"
15:28:11 <Andi> 3.2, 2nd para - add that desktop APIs also have features that are not in ARIA
15:31:26 <Andi> 3.2 aria-live example - add "at this time", change MUST to "would be" or "can"
15:32:02 <Andi> 3.2. 1st para - when aria ... don't map ... and there is a way in the API to expose a text string, then UAs must expose raw ...
15:32:51 <Andi> note to Andi: above 3.2 items are actually 3.3
15:34:47 <Andi> DB: parse role string and take the first role that means something and expose whole role string if there is a mechanism
15:35:46 <Andi> DB: multiple roles used in case API doesn't support the 1st choice role
15:36:05 <Andi> add explanation and compare to font specification
15:36:53 <Andi> 3.4 4th para - change SHOULD to MUST
15:37:16 <Andi> 3.4 bullet # 1 - change SHOULD to MUST
15:38:52 <Andi> 3.4 bullet # 3 - change SHOULD to MUST
15:40:21 <Andi> 3.4 bullet # 4 - attribute is API dependent - remove "xml-roles" - expose as a text string
15:42:14 <Andi> 3.4 - dynamic role sentence - change to a note - change "dynamic role changes" to "Changes to the role attribute"
15:42:21 <Andi> 3.4 add caption to table
15:42:58 <Andi> CS: thought there was a heading role in MSAA
15:44:58 <Andi> bug - David - verify ATK mappings
15:45:11 <Andi> bug - Cynthia - do UIA and Mac mappings
15:45:20 <Andi> bug - David - do IA2 mappings
15:46:49 <Andi> 3.5 - merge states and properties back into one table
15:50:54 <Andi> 3.5 - bullet # 2 - Map states that are supported in the API
15:51:29 <Andi> 3.5 - new bullet # 3 - add additional information to the description, object attribute, or other text string
15:52:01 <Andi> bug - table for how to map unsupported states and properties in the different APIs 
15:52:21 <Andi> 3.5 - new bullet # 3 - SHOULD
15:53:56 <Andi> 3.5 - bullet # 3 - "object attributes" - change to "additional information" - example - list levels
15:54:26 <Andi> another good example is "table hint" - layout or data
15:57:35 <Andi> 3.5 - bullet # 4 - correct but hard to read - need to spell out the algorithm for each role
15:57:56 <Andi> aria spec will be adding a table that lists states & properties for each role
15:58:30 <Andi> bug - Michael - create table, include 3rd column with implementation details that are only visible in the UAIG
15:59:17 <Andi> 3.5 - bullet # 4 - reword to refer to table
16:00:28 <Andi> 3.5 - bullet # 5 - change "object attribute" to "text string"
16:00:45 <Andi> 3.5 - bullet # 5 - SHOULD
16:04:08 <Andi> bug - work with browser vendors to come up with convention for this
16:06:20 <Andi> 3.5 - table - should list all properties and states, what they should be set to, and what their defaults are
16:06:45 <Andi> model after tables in WCAG 2.0 technique and little tables in the aria spec
16:08:04 <Andi> 3.5 - following tables - 1st para - 1st sentence - add "MUST expose"
16:08:41 <Andi> 3.5 - following tables - 1st para - last sentence - remove "at a minimum", change SHOULD to MUST
16:09:08 <Andi> bug - mapping table for events, decide which are MUSTs
16:18:27 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow_Weaver
16:18:29 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
16:18:30 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
16:18:35 <Zakim> -??P2
16:18:37 <Zakim> -Janina
16:18:37 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(ARIA)11:00AM has ended
16:18:38 <Zakim> Attendees were Michael_Cooper, Andi_Snow_Weaver, Janina, Cynthia_Shelly
16:21:40 <davidb> Zakim: ??P2 is David_Bolter
16:21:51 <davidb> Zakim, ??P2 is David_Bolter
16:21:51 <Zakim> I already had ??P2 as Pier_Luigi_Emiliani, davidb
16:22:00 <davidb> ok
16:22:14 <davidb> Andi: i forgot to identify myself to Zakim 
16:22:20 <davidb> MichaelC: ^
16:22:27 <davidb> (in case it matters)
16:23:19 <MichaelC> present+ David_Bolter
16:23:22 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
16:23:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/19-aapi-minutes.html MichaelC
17:12:40 <MichaelC> rrsagent, bye
17:12:40 <RRSAgent> I see no action items