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16:00:29 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM scheduled to start now
16:00:30 <trackbot> Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference
16:00:30 <trackbot> Date: 16 June 2009
16:00:52 <Zakim> WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM has now started
16:00:59 <Zakim> +Phil
16:01:05 <Zakim> +Derek
16:01:39 <Zakim> +mphillip
16:02:30 <Zakim> +Eric
16:03:41 <mphillip> Regrets: Peter
16:03:51 <Zakim> +Yves
16:04:22 <Zakim> +alewis
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16:05:34 <mphillip> scribe: mphillip
16:05:40 <mphillip> Chair: Eric
16:05:58 <mphillip> TOPIC: URI specification needs updated submission and RFC work
16:06:33 <mphillip> Eric: TIBCO lawyers confirm that everyone needs to agree to use the preferred IP terms : trust200902
16:06:53 <mphillip> Eric: That is still an action item for everyone on the list
16:07:59 <mphillip> Eric: Roland's name and email address is still on the draft URI scheme, we should pick someone else 
16:08:08 <mphillip> Mark: Happy for this to be me
16:08:31 <mphillip> ACTION: Mark to send contact details to Eric to update the URI scheme
16:08:31 <trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - Mark
16:08:31 <trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. mhapner, mphillip)
16:08:57 <mphillip> ACTION: mphillip to send contact details to Eric to update the URI scheme
16:08:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-88 - Send contact details to Eric to update the URI scheme [on Mark Phillips - due 2009-06-23].
16:10:38 <mphillip> Mark: IBM IETF rep suggested that we could submit with the pre5378Trust2009-02-stripped terms to keep an active draft, but update with trust200902 when we have agreement
16:11:23 <mphillip> Eric: OK propose if we haven't agreed by next week, we will submit with the old pre5378trust terms and continue to work to get agreement 
16:11:49 <mphillip> Derek: Will contact legal dept. to try to get approval for trust200902
16:12:07 <mphillip> TOPIC: Implementations
16:12:46 <mphillip> Phil: Axis2 have no plans to implement at the moment
16:13:12 <mphillip> Eric: So WebSphere is the only know implementation we have at this stage
16:14:07 <mphillip> Eric: We should all take an action item to get implementations underway
16:14:40 <mphillip> Eric: For TIBCO the question is not 'if' but 'when' but can't say if this will be in the next release or not
16:15:21 <mphillip> Mark: For other IBM products the situation is similar
16:16:02 <mphillip> TOPIC: Testing 
16:16:21 <mphillip> Eric: What does it mean to have two implementations to move to the next stage
16:16:49 <mphillip> Yves: Must show two interoperable implementations
16:17:58 <mphillip> Yves: Two implementations must talk to each other - and all tests must be passed by two implementations
16:18:21 <mphillip> Yves: Only for non-optional features
16:19:04 <mphillip> Eric: So we must nail down the remainder of our test cases and then identify two implementations which pass them
16:19:51 <mphillip> Eric: Does anyone have time to contribute to the remaining test cases?  (Mainly around WSDL)
16:21:47 <mphillip> Phil: Will look at the test cases and ensure that we have coverage for the assertions.
16:22:43 <mphillip> http://dev.w3.org/2008/ws/soapjms/testcases/
16:23:34 <mphillip> Action for Eric to review the test assertion IDs to see which ones we _really_ need to test 
16:23:34 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - for
16:23:55 <mphillip> ACTION:  Eric to review the test assertion IDs to see which ones we _really_ need to test 
16:23:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-89 - Review the test assertion IDs to see which ones we _really_ need to test  [on Eric Johnson - due 2009-06-23].
16:25:02 <mphillip> http://dev.w3.org/2008/ws/soapjms/testcases/assertions/assertions.html
16:26:00 <mphillip> Phil: Ideally without changing the binding spec.
16:26:34 <mphillip> Eric: Yes, will be looking for assertions which duplicate other assertions.  Removing duplicate assertions woould be editorial changes
16:27:17 <mphillip> TOPIC: AOB
16:28:21 <Zakim> -Phil
16:28:23 <Zakim> -Eric
16:28:23 <Zakim> -alewis
16:28:24 <Zakim> -mphillip
16:28:24 <Zakim> -Derek
16:28:25 <Zakim> -Yves
16:28:27 <Zakim> WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM has ended
16:28:28 <Zakim> Attendees were Phil, Derek, mphillip, Eric, Yves, alewis
16:28:43 <mphillip> no other business
16:28:52 <mphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
16:28:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/16-soap-jms-minutes.html mphillip
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