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15:40:33 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Fatih: slide 18 shows using optional filter in SPARQL that uses access control policy
15:41:00 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Fatih: need to provide explanations and/or partial data when request is denied
15:41:54 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Eric: various tools for proof generation exist.  We can use those to justify/audit trail access decisions.
15:43:36 <Zakim> -EricP
15:43:45 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Eric: link on 'browsing' represents some work that's being done to trail proofs (at MIT)
15:44:42 <Zakim> +EricP
15:45:33 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Fatih: slide 4 shows the UI with links to proof and number of evidences
15:46:54 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Fatih: the system is language-independent
15:48:44 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Eric: don't just infer - create a SPARQL update to the original store
15:49:20 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Eric: for our system, we can also use such feedback
15:50:01 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Eric: authentication doesn't just have to be IP, there are other methods 
15:50:57 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Question: SPARQL references policies.  But ultimately, policies should be applied on a role-based level, upon authentication?
15:51:29 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Eric: still not clear where and when policies should be administered.
15:51:50 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Questions: granularity.  Some policies may be graph-wide.
15:53:29 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Lena: clarification on HL7 attributes?
15:54:15 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Lena: what is the granularity in HL7 on patient records: all or nothing?  Or attributes?
15:54:39 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Eric: there are 10 categories of information, and the admin can break attributes down based on that.
15:56:09 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Eric: person's data can be broken down based on their roles as well.
15:56:43 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Fatih: there is a granularity that's built into HL7.
15:58:17 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Eric: slide 20 describes which task force can use access control and how
15:59:32 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Eric: slide 21 discusses specific next steps for the task forces
16:00:08 <mscottm> http://twiki.ipaw.info/bin/view/Challenge/LocalDetailsPC3
16:00:17 <Zakim> -susie
16:00:23 <mscottm> http://twiki.ipaw.info/bin/view/Challenge/OPM
16:00:40 <mscottm> http://www.nactem.ac.uk/
16:00:44 <mscottm> http://www.nactem.ac.uk/seminars.php?seminar=seminar_marshall09
16:00:45 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Scott: link above to Open Provenance Model
16:01:19 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Scott: gave talk at NACTEM (U Manchester).  NACTEM members to join HCLS
16:01:19 <mscottm> https://wiki.nbic.nl/index.php/BioWiseInformationManagement2009
16:01:59 <mscottm> http://rdf.myexperiment.org/ontologies/
16:02:00 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Scott: IM course recently given, link above.  Includes Semantic Web.
16:02:24 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Scott: check out MyExperiment Ontologies, based on collab with Tim Clark
16:02:45 <mscottm> and David de Roure, David Newman
16:03:43 <ericP> mscottm, this is Wolfgang Orthuber, irc nick: wort 
16:03:46 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Wolfgang: will present on exchange of medical data
16:04:38 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Wolfgang: similarity search can be performed on data represented as vectors (ex. similar patients)
16:05:30 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Eric: Thanks to Fatih!
16:06:07 <Julia_Kozlovsky> Scott: Pharma IT conference needs a "nutshell" summary on access control.  Eric will provide slides.
16:08:29 <Zakim> -LenaDeus
16:08:31 <Zakim> -Scott_Marshall
16:08:32 <Zakim> -MIT531
16:08:34 <Zakim> -wort
16:08:41 <Zakim> -EricP
16:08:42 <Zakim> -Julia_Kozlovsky
16:08:43 <Zakim> SW_HCLS()11:00AM has ended
16:08:44 <Zakim> Attendees were MIT531, EricP, susie, Julia_Kozlovsky, LenaDeus, wort, Scott_Marshall
16:09:07 <mscottm> and thanks to Julia for scribing!
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16:30:45 <mscottm> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:30:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/11-hcls-minutes.html mscottm
16:30:52 <mscottm> RRSAgent, please make log world-visible
16:32:18 <mscottm> hi eric
16:34:01 <ericP> heya
16:34:45 <ericP> mscottm, i reallized half-way through that RRSAgent was no present
16:35:07 <ericP> i need to inject my irc log to get use of julia's minutes
16:38:10 <mscottm> ok
16:39:59 <mscottm> will you add it to http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/Meetings/2009-06-11_Conference_Call ?
16:40:18 <ericP> i'll try to remember
16:40:21 <ericP> i have to run now
16:40:47 <mscottm> or just send it to me and I'll do it
16:40:48 <ericP> actually, do you want to put the link in now and i'll try to improve the quality of the end of that link later?
16:41:10 <mscottm> Ok - I'll add what's in my irc
16:41:11 <ericP> oh, do you embed the text instead of just the link?
16:41:24 <mscottm> um, yes.
16:43:14 <mscottm> I just noticed that the last filled entry is http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/Meetings/2009-04-16_Conference_Call
16:43:30 <mscottm> Oops.
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