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12:20:06 <trackbot> Meeting: Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group Teleconference
12:20:06 <trackbot> Date: 10 June 2009
12:20:33 <MikeS> Chair: Mike
12:21:02 <MikeS> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009Jun/0017.html
12:21:38 <MikeS> zakim, agenda+ EARL 1.0 Guide
12:21:38 <Zakim> agendum 1 added
12:21:48 <MikeS> zakim, agenda+ EARL 1.0 Schema
12:21:48 <Zakim> agendum 2 added
12:22:00 <MikeS> zakim, agenda+ HTTP in RDF
12:22:00 <Zakim> agendum 3 added
12:22:26 <MikeS> zakim, agenda+ Representing Content in RDF
12:22:26 <Zakim> agendum 4 added
12:22:38 <MikeS> zakim, agenda+ Next and future meetings
12:22:38 <Zakim> agendum 5 added
12:22:58 <MikeS> Regrets: Shadi
12:26:03 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has now started
12:26:10 <Zakim> +MikeS
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12:32:10 <Zakim> +cvelasco
12:35:01 <Zakim> +cvelasco.a
12:35:15 <JohannesK> zakim, cvelasco.a is really me
12:35:15 <Zakim> +JohannesK; got it
12:35:51 <Zakim> +manrique
12:36:21 <carlosI> zakim, manrique is really ciglesia
12:36:21 <Zakim> +ciglesia; got it
12:36:46 <MikeS> scribe: CarlosI
12:36:55 <MikeS> zakim, take up next
12:36:55 <Zakim> agendum 1. "EARL 1.0 Guide" taken up [from MikeS]
12:37:44 <carlosI> MS: guide update not ready yet
12:38:13 <carlosI> CV: hoped it was ready for today morning, but not ready yet
12:38:22 <carlosI> CV: most changes already done
12:38:48 <carlosI> CV: not sure about the comment on section 2 been too verbose
12:39:22 <carlosI> CV: It is not easy to make it shorter
12:39:33 <carlosI> CV: lots of contents
12:39:50 <carlosI> MS: don't think is really important, just do your best
12:39:57 <MikeS> zakim, take up next
12:39:57 <Zakim> agendum 2. "EARL 1.0 Schema" taken up [from MikeS]
12:40:28 <carlosI> MS: there is no Schema update yet
12:40:43 <MikeS> zakim, take up next
12:40:43 <Zakim> agendum 2 was just opened, MikeS
12:40:45 <carlosI> MS: Shadi has some travelling, so can postpone to the next week
12:40:56 <MikeS> zakim, take up next
12:40:56 <Zakim> agendum 2 was just opened, MikeS
12:41:03 <MikeS> zakim, close agendum 2
12:41:03 <Zakim> agendum 2, EARL 1.0 Schema, closed
12:41:04 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
12:41:07 <Zakim> 3. HTTP in RDF [from MikeS]
12:41:10 <MikeS> zakim, take up next
12:41:10 <Zakim> agendum 3. "HTTP in RDF" taken up [from MikeS]
12:41:31 <MikeS> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/HTTP/WD-HTTP-in-RDF-20090514#abs_pathProperty
12:41:47 <MikeS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009May/0009
12:42:08 <carlosI> MS: some remaining issues
12:42:50 <carlosI> JK: first issue related to the body property from AWWSW
12:43:25 <carlosI> JK: decided to remove multiple versions of content
12:43:35 <carlosI> JK: now it is only Base64
12:43:54 <carlosI> JK: the remaining issue is how to relate other types of content
12:45:44 <carlosI> MS: how can dct:source help to relate other types of content?
12:47:10 <JohannesK> <http://esw.w3.org/topic/AwwswHttpVocabularyInRdfComments>
12:50:14 <carlosI> CV: can we use same as?
12:50:31 <carlosI> JK: it is not really the same as
12:50:50 <JohannesK> <http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-terms/#terms-source>
12:51:12 <carlosI> MS: what are the semantics of dct:source?
12:52:05 <carlosI> MS: we can go with dct:source by now and add an editor's note for feedback
12:52:30 <carlosI> JK: this should go in the Content in RDF not in HTTP in RDF
12:53:35 <carlosI> RESOLUTION: use dct:source in Content in RDF and add an editor's note for feedback about those resources been equivalent or just derived or related
12:54:20 <carlosI> CV: can also add a note about sameas as possible alternative
12:56:28 <carlosI> JK: next issue about the use of asterisk as wild card for requestURI property
12:56:55 <carlosI> JK: comment from AWWSW about this been problematic for OWL
13:01:30 <carlosI> JK: if we follow their suggestion of using just literals and an additional property, what happens when the literal is different from an asterisk?
13:02:43 <carlosI> MS: the proposal right now is to use always a literal and if you want the asterisk just use the asterisk as a literla
13:03:45 <carlosI> RESOLUTION: remove the http:asterisk resource and use the asterisk literal when necessary
13:04:36 <carlosI> JK: next issue is a naming one
13:04:58 <carlosI> JK: need a fancy word for HTTP-in-RDF graph
13:06:16 <carlosI> CV: instance or instances?
13:06:20 <carlosI> MS: data?
13:06:46 <carlosI> MS: markup?
13:07:21 <carlosI> JK: not necessary RDF in XML, could be n3 for example
13:10:04 <carlosI> JK: next issues about conforming producers and consumers been required to fully support Content-in-RDF
13:15:17 <carlosI> RESOLUTION: we require both producers and consumers to fully support Content-in-RDF
13:16:33 <MikeS> must remove dc namespace in favor of dct namespace
13:16:49 <MikeS> fix usage of <acronym> elements according to note from Shadi
13:17:46 <MikeS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009Jun/0001.html
13:29:34 <carlosI> MS: everybody should look for names for that properties
13:30:11 <JohannesK> response, method, statusCode, headerName
13:30:24 <MikeS> zakim, take up next
13:30:24 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Representing Content in RDF" taken up [from MikeS]
13:30:35 <MikeS> zakim, close agendum 4
13:30:35 <Zakim> agendum 4, Representing Content in RDF, closed
13:30:36 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
13:30:37 <Zakim> 5. Next and future meetings [from MikeS]
13:30:40 <MikeS> zakim, take up next
13:30:40 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Next and future meetings" taken up [from MikeS]
13:31:32 <Zakim> -JohannesK
13:31:38 <Zakim> -ciglesia
13:31:39 <Zakim> -cvelasco
13:33:27 <MikeS> RRSAgent, make minutes
13:33:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/10-er-minutes.html MikeS
13:34:55 <MikeS> zakim, bye
13:34:55 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were MikeS, cvelasco, JohannesK, ciglesia
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13:35:04 <MikeS> RRSAgent, bye
13:35:04 <RRSAgent> I see no action items