19:48:01 RRSAgent has joined #au 19:48:01 logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/06/01-au-irc 19:48:09 Zakim, this will be AUWG 19:48:09 ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 48 minutes ago 19:48:14 Meeting: WAI AU 19:48:38 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009AprJun/0049.html 19:50:33 Regrets: Ann M. 19:57:22 jeanne has joined #au 19:59:13 WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started 19:59:20 +Greg_Pisocky 19:59:48 zakim, code? 19:59:48 the conference code is 2894 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), jeanne 20:00:07 +Jeanne 20:01:11 +??P10 20:01:26 zakim, ??P10 is really Jan 20:01:26 +Jan; got it 20:07:08 +??P7 20:07:37 zakim, ??P7 is really Jutta 20:07:37 +Jutta; got it 20:10:33 +SueAnn 20:10:52 Chair: Jutta Treviranus 20:12:00 Greg has joined #au 20:12:04 Scribe: Greg 20:12:30 Topic: Guideline B.1.1 Support Web content technologies 20:12:39 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009AprJun/0049.html 20:13:38 Sueann has joined #au 20:14:14 WCAG Guidelines do not address levels in their definition of accessibility supported 20:14:39 http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#new-terms 20:14:54 Accessibility Supported 20:14:56 Using a technology in a way that is accessibility supported means that it works with assistive technologies (AT) and the accessibility features of operating systems, browsers, and other user agents. Technology features can only be relied upon to conform to WCAG 2.0 success criteria if they are used in a way that is "accessibility supported". Technology features can be used in ways that are... 20:14:58 ...not accessibility supported (do not work with assistive technologies, etc.) as long as they are not relied upon to conform to any success criterion (i.e., the same information or functionality is also available another way that is supported). 20:14:59 The definition of "accessibility supported" is provided in the Appendix A: Glossary section of these guidelines. For more information, see Understanding Accessibility Support. 20:15:14 Essentially a declaration that technology should be used in a manner that is accessible and that it works with assistive technology 20:15:43 http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/conformance.html#uc-accessibility-support-head 20:15:46 +Tim_Boland 20:16:03 http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/conformance.html#uc-accessibility-support-head 20:17:08 Following the links to understanding reveals that the success criteria require using assistive technology or special features 20:18:25 -Jutta 20:18:44 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009AprJun/0041.html 20:18:51 Tim has joined #au 20:23:01 +??P7 20:29:04 TB: "can be used in an accessible supported way" 20:29:19 JT: Accessibility-supportive technologies 20:30:05 JT: What about just using the WCAG term 20:30:26 JR: I was trying to use shorthand....but I'm ok 20:30:39 JS: Pref "accessibility SUpported" 20:30:50 JT: Consistent strategy 20:31:33 JT: In terms of b111, b112, b113 it does follow same pattern 20:32:37 JR: Do people like the div. of responsibility 20:32:49 JT: Follows the pattern of the rest of the doc 20:32:57 JR: Othersd? 20:33:12 TB: Don't have in front of me. 20:34:02 JT: Does still work Accessible Technologies->Accessible-Supported Technologies 20:37:51 SN: Nuance of "possible to work with AT"...there may be places it wouldn't work.... 20:38:40 SN: We need to be inclusive of fact that some techs are ok in some situs but not others 20:39:16 Action JR: Work on terminology to replace "Accessibile Technologies" 20:39:16 Created ACTION-150 - Work on terminology to replace "Accessibile Technologies" [on Jan Richards - due 2009-06-08]. 20:39:56 Topics: Responses to comments from WAI IG members: 20:40:05 First comment: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009AprJun/0044.html 20:41:16 -??P7 20:41:44 +??P6 20:43:11 JT: Maybe we can support web-based/desktop views 20:44:17 Action: JS and JR to look at generating different views of the techniques 20:44:17 Created ACTION-151 - And JR to look at generating different views of the techniques [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2009-06-08]. 20:44:37 Second comment http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009AprJun/0045.html 20:47:00 http://www.w3.org/TR/ATAG20/#principle-operable 20:49:21 GP: hard to do, might be CSS 20:49:30 SN: agree that would be difficult 20:49:57 JT: Offer of additional example is fine 20:50:07 -Tim_Boland 20:51:18 JS: Likes the added example 20:51:54 Resolution: To propose the addtional example text in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009AprJun/0045.html and clarify that this is covered to some extent 20:52:12 Third Comment: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009AprJun/0046.html 20:53:03 -Jeanne 20:53:52 SN: Let's not reevaluate 20:54:13 JT: Right the Rel. pri caused bigger probs 20:54:15 +Jeanne 20:54:20 GP: Agree 20:54:41 JS: Fine with the 20:55:12 Resolution: Keep the priorities separate (not rel. priority) 20:55:34 Fourth Comment: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009AprJun/0047.html 20:57:26 Action JS: Talk to Michale C about handling of many defn links 20:57:26 Created ACTION-152 - Talk to Michale C about handling of many defn links [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2009-06-08]. 20:57:36 Fifth comment: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009AprJun/0048.html 20:59:02 Resolution: Keep response at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2009AprJun/0048.html 21:00:44 Next meeting June 8 21:00:44 -SueAnn 21:00:46 -Greg_Pisocky 21:01:40 -??P6 21:02:36 -Jan 21:02:38 -Jeanne 21:02:39 WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has ended 21:02:40 Attendees were Greg_Pisocky, Jeanne, Jan, Jutta, SueAnn, Tim_Boland 21:02:47 RRSAgent, make minutes 21:02:47 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/06/01-au-minutes.html Jan 21:02:54 RRSAgent, set logs public 21:03:01 Zakim, bye 21:03:01 Zakim has left #au 21:03:06 RRSAgent, bye 21:03:06 I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/01-au-actions.rdf : 21:03:06 ACTION: JR to Work on terminology to replace "Accessibile Technologies" [1] 21:03:06 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/01-au-irc#T20-39-16 21:03:06 ACTION: JS and JR to look at generating different views of the techniques [2] 21:03:06 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/01-au-irc#T20-44-17 21:03:06 ACTION: JS to Talk to Michale C about handling of many defn links [3] 21:03:06 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/01-au-irc#T20-57-26