12:14:42 RRSAgent has joined #er 12:14:42 logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/05/27-er-irc 12:14:44 RRSAgent, make logs public 12:14:44 Zakim has joined #er 12:14:46 Zakim, this will be 3794 12:14:46 ok, trackbot; I see WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM scheduled to start in 16 minutes 12:14:47 Meeting: Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group Teleconference 12:14:47 Date: 27 May 2009 12:16:26 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009May/0028.html 12:17:34 Chair: Mike 12:17:43 Regrets: Johannes, CarlosV 12:18:16 zakim, agenda+ EARL 1.0 Guide 12:18:16 agendum 1 added 12:18:41 zakim, agenda+ EARL 1.0 Schema comments 12:18:41 agendum 2 added 12:19:11 zakim, agenda+ EARL 1.0 Requirements 12:19:11 agendum 3 added 12:19:34 zakim, agenda+ Pointers in RDF 12:19:34 agendum 4 added 12:20:13 zakim, agenda+ Miscelaneous review of mailing list comments/suggestions 12:20:13 agendum 5 added 12:20:28 zakim, agenda+ Next and future meetings 12:20:28 agendum 6 added 12:28:20 WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has now started 12:28:27 +MikeS 12:30:39 zakim, call shadi-617 12:30:39 ok, shadi; the call is being made 12:30:40 -MikeS 12:30:40 +MikeS 12:30:40 +Shadi 12:32:15 squillace has joined #er 12:32:28 zakim, agenda? 12:32:28 I see 6 items remaining on the agenda: 12:32:29 1. EARL 1.0 Guide [from squillace] 12:32:30 2. EARL 1.0 Schema comments [from squillace] 12:32:31 3. EARL 1.0 Requirements [from squillace] 12:32:32 4. Pointers in RDF [from squillace] 12:32:33 5. Miscelaneous review of mailing list comments/suggestions [from squillace] 12:32:35 6. Next and future meetings [from squillace] 12:34:10 carlosI has joined #er 12:34:20 +Carlos_Iglesias 12:35:34 scribe: Shadi 12:35:41 zakim, take up agendum 1 12:35:41 agendum 1. "EARL 1.0 Guide" taken up [from squillace] 12:43:39 [section 2 may be verbose, should look if it can be shortened] 12:44:10 [look at possibility of combining sections 2.1 and 2.2] 12:44:38 [break down section 3.1 into further sub-sections] 12:46:24 [consider removing section 5, it does not seem to add any additional information] 12:47:20 [several typographical errors, please check it carefully] 12:49:41 [remove overuse of tags] 12:51:12 [use of acronyms: (1) do not markup acronyms when it is expanded right before the acronym. example: "Evaluation and Report Language (EARL)" and not "Evaluation and Report Language (EARL)" 12:51:51 (2) do not markup acronyms if it has been already marked up or explanded in the same sub-section 12:52:47 (3) do markup acronyms at the beginning of each sub-section, if they are not expanded 12:53:25 (4) consider expanding each acronym (rather than markup variant) in the first occurence of each major section 12:55:13 [all
elements have an indentation, please remove and only add indentation where appropriate] 12:57:03 [please prioritize expanding section 4 at this stage] 12:58:04 zakim, take up next 12:58:04 agendum 2. "EARL 1.0 Schema comments" taken up [from squillace] 12:58:14 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009May/0027 13:00:04 action: Shadi to confirm scope of foaf:Document 13:00:04 Created ACTION-90 - Confirm scope of foaf:Document [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-06-03]. 13:01:22 action: Shadi confirm DC namespaces and notify ERT WG 13:01:22 Created ACTION-91 - Confirm DC namespaces and notify ERT WG [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-06-03]. 13:04:14 action: Shadi confirm pros/cons of using OWL in addition to RDFS 13:04:15 Created ACTION-92 - Confirm pros/cons of using OWL in addition to RDFS [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-06-03]. 13:04:48 action: CarlosI check with colleagues about syntax examples for OWL additions 13:04:48 Sorry, couldn't find user - CarlosI 13:05:04 action: ciglesia check with colleagues about syntax examples for OWL additions 13:05:04 Created ACTION-93 - Check with colleagues about syntax examples for OWL additions [on Carlos Iglesias - due 2009-06-03]. 13:05:52 action: Shadi to add RDF references to the HTML in EARL 1.0 13:05:52 Created ACTION-94 - Add RDF references to the HTML in EARL 1.0 [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-06-03]. 13:06:25 action: ciglesia to add RDF references to the HTML in Pointers 13:06:25 Created ACTION-95 - Add RDF references to the HTML in Pointers [on Carlos Iglesias - due 2009-06-03]. 13:06:43 action: johannes to add RDF references to the HTML in Content and HTTP-in-RDF 13:06:43 Created ACTION-96 - Add RDF references to the HTML in Content and HTTP-in-RDF [on Johannes Koch - due 2009-06-03]. 13:12:02 SAZ: for duality issue, we need to say that comparison is on the type 13:12:40 MS: then an assertion with earl:failed and earl:nearlyPassed (which is also an instance of earl:Fail) would be equivalent 13:12:46 ...not sure that we want that 13:14:18 s/earl:nearlyPassed/myNS:nearlyPassed 13:17:56 SAZ: thought we did, it is a use-case to provide the possibility of granuality but comparison mechanisms on Pass/Fail/NA etc level 13:18:55 action: Shadi extract discussion on comparion of OutcomeValue and bring it to the list 13:18:55 Created ACTION-97 - Extract discussion on comparion of OutcomeValue and bring it to the list [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2009-06-03]. 13:19:38 zakim, take up next 13:19:38 agendum 3. "EARL 1.0 Requirements" taken up [from squillace] 13:20:07 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009May/0029.html 13:20:27 MS: need to add reference and change the status paragraph 13:21:01 ...may tweak D02 to clarify that it applies to entire EARL rather than to the requiremtns 13:21:51 SAZ: also fix the acronyms 13:22:39 zakim, take up next 13:22:39 agendum 4. "Pointers in RDF" taken up [from squillace] 13:22:40 zakim, take up next 13:22:41 agendum 4 was just opened, squillace 13:23:07 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2009May/0022 13:23:25 http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/Pointers/WD-Pointers-20090518.html 13:24:56 [no comments so far, looks good] 13:26:19 zakim, take up next 13:26:19 agendum 5. "Miscelaneous review of mailing list comments/suggestions" taken up [from squillace] 13:27:36 zakim, take up next 13:27:36 agendum 6. "Next and future meetings" taken up [from squillace] 13:27:47 SAZ: please review JK's comments and questions, and prepare for discussing next week 13:28:14 http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/timeline 13:28:55 -MikeS 13:28:56 next meeting: 3 June 13:29:02 -Carlos_Iglesias 13:29:03 -Shadi 13:29:03 WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has ended 13:29:05 Attendees were MikeS, Shadi, Carlos_Iglesias 13:29:05 rrsagent, end meeting 13:29:05 I'm logging. I don't understand 'end meeting', shadi. Try /msg RRSAgent help 13:29:13 trackbot, end meeting 13:29:13 Zakim, list attendees 13:29:13 sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is 13:29:14 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 13:29:14 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/05/27-er-minutes.html trackbot 13:29:15 RRSAgent, bye 13:29:15 I see 9 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/27-er-actions.rdf : 13:29:15 ACTION: Shadi to confirm scope of foaf:Document [1] 13:29:15 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/27-er-irc#T13-00-04 13:29:15 ACTION: Shadi confirm DC namespaces and notify ERT WG [2] 13:29:15 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/27-er-irc#T13-01-22 13:29:15 ACTION: Shadi confirm pros/cons of using OWL in addition to RDFS [3] 13:29:15 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/27-er-irc#T13-04-14 13:29:15 ACTION: CarlosI check with colleagues about syntax examples for OWL additions [4] 13:29:15 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/27-er-irc#T13-04-48 13:29:15 ACTION: ciglesia check with colleagues about syntax examples for OWL additions [5] 13:29:15 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/27-er-irc#T13-05-04 13:29:15 ACTION: Shadi to add RDF references to the HTML in EARL 1.0 [6] 13:29:15 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/27-er-irc#T13-05-52 13:29:15 ACTION: ciglesia to add RDF references to the HTML in Pointers [7] 13:29:15 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/27-er-irc#T13-06-25 13:29:15 ACTION: johannes to add RDF references to the HTML in Content and HTTP-in-RDF [8] 13:29:15 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/27-er-irc#T13-06-43 13:29:15 ACTION: Shadi extract discussion on comparion of OutcomeValue and bring it to the list [9] 13:29:15 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/27-er-irc#T13-18-55