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16:08:21 <holger_stenzhorn> zakim, who is here?
16:08:21 <Zakim> sorry, holger_stenzhorn, I don't know what conference this is
16:08:23 <Zakim> On IRC I see ElgarPichler, Zakim, lynn_pharma, jluciano, RRSAgent, colin, ChristiDenney, holger_stenzhorn, ericP
16:08:30 <holger_stenzhorn> zakim, this is #hcls2
16:08:32 <Zakim> sorry, holger_stenzhorn, I do not see a conference named '#hcls2' in progress or scheduled at this time
16:09:17 <holger_stenzhorn> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:09:17 <Zakim> sorry, holger_stenzhorn, I don't know what conference this is
16:09:18 <Zakim> On IRC I see ElgarPichler, Zakim, lynn_pharma, jluciano, RRSAgent, colin, ChristiDenney, holger_stenzhorn, ericP
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16:11:02 <ericP> Zakim, this is hcls2
16:11:02 <Zakim> ok, ericP; that matches SW_HCLS(2)12:00PM
16:11:10 <ericP> Zakim, who is here?
16:11:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.410.706.aaaa, +1.317.277.aabb, ??P27, +0122342aacc, +1.781.839.aadd, ??P34, Joanne_Luciano
16:11:12 <Zakim> On IRC I see Julia, ElgarPichler, Zakim, lynn_pharma, jluciano, RRSAgent, colin, ChristiDenney, holger_stenzhorn, ericP
16:11:28 <Zakim> +Julia
16:12:22 <holger_stenzhorn> zakim, this is hcls2
16:12:22 <Zakim> holger_stenzhorn, this was already SW_HCLS(2)12:00PM
16:12:23 <Zakim> ok, holger_stenzhorn; that matches SW_HCLS(2)12:00PM
16:12:53 <holger_stenzhorn> zakim, who is on the phome
16:12:53 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phome', holger_stenzhorn
16:13:00 <holger_stenzhorn> zakim, who is on the phone
16:13:00 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', holger_stenzhorn
16:13:04 <holger_stenzhorn> ?
16:13:08 <holger_stenzhorn> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:13:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.410.706.aaaa, +1.317.277.aabb, ??P27, +0122342aacc, +1.781.839.aadd, ??P34, Joanne_Luciano, Julia
16:13:25 <holger_stenzhorn> zakim, ??P27 is holger_stenzhorn
16:13:25 <Zakim> +holger_stenzhorn; got it
16:13:43 <ChristiDenney> +.317.277 = christi
16:13:54 <lynn_pharma> http://esw.w4.org/topic/HCLSIG/PharmaOntology
16:14:03 <holger_stenzhorn> zakim, +.317.277 is ChristiDenney
16:14:03 <Zakim> sorry, holger_stenzhorn, I do not recognize a party named '+.317.277'
16:14:16 <holger_stenzhorn>  zakim, 1.317.277 is ChristiDenney
16:14:17 <Zakim> sorry, holger_stenzhorn, I do not recognize a party named '1.317.277'
16:14:25 <holger_stenzhorn> zakim, +1.317.277 is ChristiDenney
16:14:26 <Zakim> +ChristiDenney; got it
16:14:52 <holger_stenzhorn> (sorry for the manny misspellings...)
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16:15:57 <holger_stenzhorn> pick a scribe
16:16:04 <holger_stenzhorn> zakim, pick a scribe
16:16:04 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose +0122342aacc
16:16:20 <holger_stenzhorn> zakim, pick a scribe
16:16:20 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose ChristiDenney
16:16:48 <jluciano> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/PharmaOntology
16:16:57 <jluciano> (it's not w4 yet)
16:17:25 <ChristiDenney> topic: f2f
16:17:47 <ElgarPichler> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/Meetings/2009-04-30_F2F
16:18:44 <ChristiDenney> elgar: susie gave semantic update, then had nih presentation (maryanne marton)
16:19:24 <ChristiDenney> elgar: 5 tasks within hcls; each gave an overview and progress
16:19:38 <ChristiDenney> elgar: elgar and susie gave the update for pharma ontology
16:19:54 <ElgarPichler> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/PharmaOntology/Meetings/2009-05-14_Conference_Call
16:20:12 <ChristiDenney> elgar: go to pharma ontology page and look for attachment
16:21:29 <ChristiDenney> elgar: described how looked at candidate source vocab for pharma ontology
16:23:32 <ChristiDenney> elgar: narrowed questions to 2-3 roles for breakout; looked at clinician roles
16:24:45 <Zakim> - +0122342aacc
16:24:58 <colin> my phoneline has conked out!  hold on...
16:25:24 <ChristiDenney> elgar: 6-7 major classes
16:25:55 <Zakim> + +0122342aaee
16:25:59 <colin> back now!
16:26:01 <ChristiDenney> elgar: F2F_PO_MindMap.jpg on attachments page
16:26:56 <ChristiDenney> elgar: still to do #1 go through roles and questions
16:27:19 <ChristiDenney> elgar: and find classes
16:27:54 <ChristiDenney> elgar: #2 determine how we manage the collaborative ontology development. protege?
16:28:12 <ChristiDenney> elgar: or text or spreadsheets?
16:28:36 <ChristiDenney> elgar: need a strategy for how we will combine our work
16:29:09 <ChristiDenney> elgar: no relations have been explicitely defined
16:29:48 <ChristiDenney> elgar: for 1st few iterations, he could put them out for review
16:29:57 <ChristiDenney> colin: wiki is a good place to work
16:30:30 <ChristiDenney> colin: relationships we need may be a small set; experiment, treatment... may have participants; has role, has phenotype
16:30:50 <ChristiDenney> elgar: would be surprised if those are only roles, but they are good candidates
16:31:39 <ChristiDenney> elgar: friday had sections on hcls strategy, integration points, conference papers/outreach/grants
16:31:51 <ChristiDenney> elgar: would recommend that we read the minutes on the hcls site
16:31:54 <jluciano> what's the full URL to the F2F -- Is it an attachment on the PharmaOntology wiki site or on the HCLSIG F2F
16:32:18 <ChristiDenney> elgar: question was posed RE: what people want to see/is important for them to get from the hcls group
16:32:45 <ChristiDenney> elgar: people would like "cookbook" and recommendations from hcls group
16:33:01 <ChristiDenney> f2f info: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/Meetings/2009-04-30_F2F
16:34:13 <ChristiDenney> entities: bio process, dose, material, experiment, treatment
16:34:24 <ChristiDenney> entities: role
16:35:17 <ChristiDenney> elgar: would like to go through questions for another role before we dive deeper into these classes
16:35:41 <ChristiDenney> entities: measure
16:37:28 <ChristiDenney> entities: phenotype
16:39:30 <ChristiDenney> elgar: can look at the owl file for entities
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16:40:37 <ChristiDenney> http://esw.w3.org/topic/RecentChanges
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16:41:39 <ChristiDenney> ontology file: 'PO_Ontology_v01.owl '.
16:41:54 <ChristiDenney> colin: need to get good definitions
16:43:14 <ChristiDenney> go to http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/PharmaOntology/Meetings/2009-05-14_Conference_Call, then click attachments
16:44:06 <ChristiDenney> elgar: would recommend that everyone go through these materials, review, and comment; 
16:44:17 <ChristiDenney> elgar: then look at clinician view and find new classes
16:47:18 <ChristiDenney> elgar will put classes on the page: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/PharmaOntology/Classes
16:48:27 <ChristiDenney> elgar: can we have an ontology that relates classes to use cases and questions?
16:48:52 <ChristiDenney> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/PharmaOntology/Roles
16:51:50 <ChristiDenney> elgar: the view they looked at was Clinical Trial Formulator/Lead Physician View
16:52:04 <lynn_pharma> Clinical Trial Formulator/Lead Physician View
16:52:06 <ChristiDenney> elgar: and the Biologist View
16:52:33 <ChristiDenney> (both in-vitro and in-vivo)
16:53:06 <ChristiDenney> elgar: concensus at f2f was to work on clinicial view first
16:55:26 <ChristiDenney> topic: DILS 2009
16:55:42 <ChristiDenney> group is okay with submitting the abstract
16:57:06 <ChristiDenney> colin: bosse is not on the abstract
16:57:23 <jluciano> where's the apbstracrt?
17:03:40 <ChristiDenney> action: christi to update names on abstracts (both)
17:04:09 <ChristiDenney> christi_d@lilly.com
17:05:50 <ChristiDenney> please send feedback on the abstract to christi_d@lilly.com
17:09:23 <jluciano> is it possible for someone to send out a calendar invite to this telcon (if it's not done already)
17:09:49 <ChristiDenney> to joanne, if you can send me your e-mail, i can
17:10:12 <ChristiDenney> colin: holger and colin have an idea for poster; diagram of pipeline and how classes will fit
17:10:26 <ChristiDenney> colin: will circulate this to the group
17:14:51 <Zakim> -holger_stenzhorn
17:14:57 <Zakim> -ChristiDenney
17:14:58 <Zakim> - +0122342aaee
17:14:58 <Zakim> -??P34
17:15:00 <Zakim> -Joanne_Luciano
17:15:00 <Zakim> - +1.410.706.aaaa
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17:16:13 <Zakim> - +1.781.839.aadd
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17:19:00 <Zakim> -Julia
17:19:01 <Zakim> SW_HCLS(2)12:00PM has ended
17:19:02 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.410.706.aaaa, +1.317.277.aabb, +0122342aacc, +1.781.839.aadd, Joanne_Luciano, Julia, holger_stenzhorn, ChristiDenney, +0122342aaee
17:19:13 <holger_stenzhorn> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:19:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/05/14-hcls2-minutes.html holger_stenzhorn
17:23:59 <holger_stenzhorn> rssagent, leave
17:24:12 <holger_stenzhorn> zakim, excuse us 
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17:25:14 <holger_stenzhorn> rrsagent, leave
17:26:09 <holger_stenzhorn> rrsagent, create minutes
17:26:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/05/14-hcls2-minutes.html holger_stenzhorn
17:26:26 <holger_stenzhorn> rrsagent, leave
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17:41:30 <ericP> RRSAgent, please make logs world-visible
17:41:42 <ericP> RRSAgent, bye
17:41:42 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/14-hcls2-actions.rdf :
17:41:42 <RRSAgent> ACTION: christi to update names on abstracts (both) [1]
17:41:42 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/14-hcls2-irc#T17-03-40