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14:53:57 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be MWI_TS
14:53:57 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see MWI_TSWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
14:53:58 <trackbot> Meeting: Mobile Web Initiative Test Suites Working Group Teleconference
14:53:58 <trackbot> Date: 12 May 2009
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14:58:34 <Zakim> MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has now started
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14:58:53 <dom> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009May/
14:58:56 <dom> Chair: Wilhelm
14:59:47 <hendry> argh, what's the dial-in number
15:00:21 <hendry> found it :)
15:00:32 <Zakim> +??P16
15:00:35 <Zakim> -Carmelo
15:00:36 <Zakim> +Carmelo
15:00:49 <Zakim> +wilhelm
15:01:14 <Zakim> +??P19
15:01:35 <dom> zakim, ??P16 is hendry
15:01:35 <Zakim> +hendry; got it
15:01:40 <dom> zakim, code?
15:01:40 <Zakim> the conference code is 8794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), dom
15:01:47 <Zakim> +??P24
15:01:53 <dom> zakim, ??P24 is me
15:01:53 <Zakim> +dom; got it
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15:02:00 <dom> zakim, ??P19 is me
15:02:00 <Zakim> +dom; got it
15:02:15 <dom> zakim, ??P19 is really dmitri
15:02:15 <Zakim> +dmitri; got it
15:02:47 <dom> Topic: Widget testing
15:02:55 <dom> -> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2006/waf/widgets/tests/ Widget test suites
15:02:59 <dom> ACTION-2?
15:02:59 <trackbot> ACTION-2 -- Kai Hendry to continue integrating his tests WTF -- due 2009-05-01 -- OPEN
15:02:59 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/2
15:03:05 <dom> Kai: still making progress there
15:03:08 <dom> ACTION-36?
15:03:08 <trackbot> ACTION-36 -- Kai Hendry to provide a tour of WTF during a call -- due 2009-05-05 -- OPEN
15:03:08 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/36
15:03:21 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009May/0012.html Kai's overview of WTF
15:03:37 <dom> Kai: probably easier if you read through the blog post
15:03:51 <dom> ... maybe we can discuss it next week
15:04:07 <dom> ... I'd be interested to hear more about other browsers SPARTAN-type of systems
15:04:18 <dom> Wilhelm: I know Microsoft does, Mozilla has something similar
15:04:26 <dom> Kai: would be good to collect that information somewhere
15:04:29 <dom> ... for testers out there
15:05:47 <dom> Wilhelm: SPARTAN (our automated regression system) contains 100 000s of screenshots that serves a point of comparison
15:06:04 <dom> ... to run it, you need to first label the screenshots that serve as point of refs
15:06:21 <dom> Kai: it would be interesting for me to see it in action
15:06:39 <dom> Wilhelm: I can ask my boss if I can blog about it (from our Opera blog)
15:07:07 <dom> ACTION: Wilhelm to follow-up on publishing details about SPARTAN
15:07:07 <trackbot> Created ACTION-47 - Follow-up on publishing details about SPARTAN [on Wilhelm Joys Andersen - due 2009-05-19].
15:07:27 <dom> Topic: Memory test
15:07:38 <dom> ACTION-42 closed
15:07:38 <trackbot> ACTION-42 Fix the memory test wrt limitation for going higher up closed
15:07:42 <dom> ACTION-33?
15:07:42 <trackbot> ACTION-33 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to re-run memory test once limit is raised up -- due 2009-04-21 -- OPEN
15:07:42 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/33
15:08:11 <dom> Wilhelm: I've sent a report of my results
15:08:24 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009May/0013.html Memory test results
15:09:21 <dom> Wilhelm: the UI of pass/fail isn't quite right - there are cases where I'm not redirected up to the upper limit
15:09:41 <dom> ACTION-33 closed
15:09:42 <trackbot> ACTION-33 Re-run memory test once limit is raised up closed
15:10:02 <dom> Wilhelm: even though I didn't reach the device memory limit
15:10:17 <dom> Kai: I can look into it again, by reproducing the same conditions
15:10:37 <dom> ... it's supposed to prompt you to go higher when it downloads everything
15:10:55 <dom> Wilhelm: I got two different fail results (no prompt vs error dialog)
15:11:16 <dom> ACTION: Kai to look again into memory test wrt failures at high memory levels
15:11:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-48 - Look again into memory test wrt failures at high memory levels [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-05-19].
15:11:45 <dom> Topic: Device Independent Testing Guidelines
15:11:49 <dom> ACTION-43?
15:11:49 <trackbot> ACTION-43 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to get the DITG published as FPWD -- due 2009-05-12 -- PENDINGREVIEW
15:11:49 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/43
15:11:54 <dom> ACTION-43 closed
15:11:54 <trackbot> ACTION-43 Get the DITG published as FPWD closed
15:12:23 <dom> ACTION: Dom to present the DITG to the W3C chairs
15:12:23 <trackbot> Created ACTION-49 - Present the DITG to the W3C chairs [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2009-05-19].
15:12:29 <dom> Topic: WCTMB
15:12:32 <dom> ACTION-39?
15:12:32 <trackbot> ACTION-39 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to look through Kai's proposals for new tests -- due 2009-05-05 -- OPEN
15:12:32 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/39
15:12:35 <dom> Wilhelm: still pending
15:12:37 <dom> ACTION-44?
15:12:37 <trackbot> ACTION-44 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to publish updated WCTMB and post a blog about the update -- due 2009-05-12 -- OPEN
15:12:37 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/44
15:12:46 <dom> Wilhelm: I've updated the test
15:12:59 <dom> ... I've prepared a blog post that I can publish right after the meeting
15:13:02 <dom> Topic: Blog
15:13:05 <dom> ACTION-34?
15:13:05 <trackbot> ACTION-34 -- Carmelo Montanez to draft a blog post on memory test (or hand it over to dom otherwise) -- due 2009-04-21 -- OPEN
15:13:05 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/34
15:13:25 <dom> Carmelo: Done the draft and sent it to Dom for publication
15:13:30 <dom> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009May/0015.html Carmelo's draft
15:13:38 <dom> ACTION-45?
15:13:38 <trackbot> ACTION-45 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to propose a plan for getting contributions from community -- due 2009-05-12 -- OPEN
15:13:38 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/45
15:13:41 <dom> Dom: no progress
15:13:43 <dom> ACTION-46?
15:13:43 <trackbot> ACTION-46 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to blog about DITG publication -- due 2009-05-12 -- OPEN
15:13:43 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/46
15:14:08 <dom> ACTION: Dom to publish Carmelo's draft re memory test in the blog
15:14:08 <trackbot> Created ACTION-50 - Publish Carmelo's draft re memory test in the blog [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2009-05-19].
15:15:52 <dom> Kai: we could publish about WTF 
15:15:53 <dom> Dom: good idea
15:16:04 <dom> ACTION: Kai to draft a blog post on WTF
15:16:04 <trackbot> Created ACTION-51 - Draft a blog post on WTF [on Kai Hendry - due 2009-05-19].
15:16:15 <dom> Topic: OMA
15:16:17 <dom> ACTION-21?
15:16:18 <trackbot> ACTION-21 -- Wilhelm Joys Andersen to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN
15:16:18 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/21
15:16:21 <dom> ACTION-14?
15:16:21 <trackbot> ACTION-14 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to look back at OMA situation and report -- due 2009-03-17 -- OPEN
15:16:22 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/track/actions/14
15:16:25 <dom> [both pending]
15:16:45 <dom> Topic: Next meeting
15:16:51 <dom> Carmelo: I won't be around on May 26
15:17:26 <Zakim> -Carmelo
15:17:28 <Zakim> -hendry
15:17:28 <Zakim> -dmitri
15:17:30 <dom> Next meeting May 19
15:17:30 <Zakim> -wilhelm
15:17:32 <Zakim> -dom
15:17:34 <Zakim> MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has ended
15:17:35 <Zakim> Attendees were Carmelo, wilhelm, hendry, dom, dmitri
15:17:43 <dom> s/<dom> ->/<dom_scribe> ->/g
15:17:46 <dom> zakim, bye
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15:17:52 <dom> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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