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14:42:32 <YvesS> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2009Apr/0013.html
14:42:59 <YvesS> Title: ITS IG Teleconference
14:43:09 <YvesS> Chair: YvesS
14:43:24 <YvesS> regrets: Ingo
14:44:31 <YvesS> Regrets: Felix
14:44:43 <YvesS> Scribe: YvesS
14:46:49 <YvesS> Felix: Just to know before you leave. About the discussion about rel for HTML5 and XHTML2? Are you still OK with rel="i18nrules"?
14:47:16 <fsasaki> YvesS, sure
14:47:27 <YvesS> Ok, Thanks.
14:57:32 <YvesS> Too bad about Camill. Great about you. You want to scribe?
14:57:38 <fsasaki> ha!
14:57:45 <fsasaki> you got me :)
14:57:54 <fsasaki> scribe: fsasaki
14:58:06 <YvesS> You're just so much better at it.
14:58:26 <fsasaki> that is a good method to convince people to do something, telling them how good they are at it ;)
14:59:39 <Zakim> I18N_ITS IG()11:00AM has now started
14:59:45 <Zakim> +Yves_S
15:01:01 <Zakim> +??P51
15:01:05 <Zakim> -Yves_S
15:01:05 <Zakim> +Yves_S
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15:04:10 <Jirka> hi folks, I can't join you by voice today. Please accept my regrets.
15:04:14 <YvesS> Zakim, who is there?
15:04:14 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, YvesS.
15:04:17 <YvesS> Zakim, who is here?
15:04:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see Yves_S, felix
15:04:18 <Zakim> On IRC I see Jirka, RRSAgent, Zakim, YvesS, fsasaki, trackbot
15:06:32 <YvesS> ok.
15:09:15 <YvesS> Zakim, who is here?
15:09:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see Yves_S, felix
15:09:16 <Zakim> On IRC I see Jirka, RRSAgent, Zakim, YvesS, fsasaki, trackbot
15:14:03 <fsasaki> topic: action items
15:15:11 <fsasaki> Felix: don't think that there is anything in OWL
15:15:27 <fsasaki> Yves: widgets spec done, but they went back to WD
15:16:00 <fsasaki> .. no need for more actions here
15:16:21 <fsasaki> Yves: HTML 5, XHTML 2. HTML 5 via mail, rel attribute set to "i18nrules"
15:16:58 <fsasaki> .. XHTML2, discussion with them, they will use what they have for directionality ruby etc for what they have, and for new things the ITS namespace
15:18:03 <fsasaki> .. they will have a link with rel attribute that points to ITS rules, rel attribute will be also "i18nrules" in XHTML2
15:19:15 <fsasaki> .. not clear what other formats for i18nrules you have, in addition to ITS
15:20:38 <fsasaki> .. not sure if it needs to be specific or generic
15:20:54 <fsasaki> felix: if it is generic you would need content sniffing
15:21:16 <fsasaki> yves: agree, maybe we should comment on that and push for something specific
15:22:32 <fsasaki> +1
15:22:45 <fsasaki> yves: XHTML2 folks should also agree with that
15:22:49 <fsasaki> .. let's comment on the mailling list
15:23:06 <fsasaki> action: Felix and Yves to continue ITS in HTML discussion
15:23:06 <trackbot> Created ACTION-95 - And Yves to continue ITS in HTML discussion [on Felix Sasaki - due 2009-05-05].
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15:25:17 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
15:25:17 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
15:25:19 <Zakim> +Richard
15:25:56 <fsasaki> looking at http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-rdf-text-20090421/
15:26:19 <Zakim> -Richard
15:26:27 <r12a> zakim, dial richard-home
15:26:27 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
15:26:29 <Zakim> +Richard
15:28:14 <fsasaki> action: Yves to look at rdf:text
15:28:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-96 - Look at rdf:text [on Yves Savourel - due 2009-05-05].
15:31:21 <fsasaki> discussion about ITS in HTML (5)
15:32:11 <fsasaki> r12a: translate flag can be done with class attributes, but not localization notes
15:32:24 <fsasaki> yves: localization notes would be a seperate attribute
15:32:27 <fsasaki> r12a: yes
15:33:13 <fsasaki> yves: not sure if this is needed, maybe we need to revise discussion
15:37:58 <fsasaki> continuing discussion
15:38:16 <fsasaki> r12a: have there been discussions on ITS IG list about this?
15:38:29 <fsasaki> yves: not so much, only about translate and the class attribute
15:42:15 <fsasaki> topic: EU thematic network proposal
15:42:33 <fsasaki> r12a describes http://www.w3.org/2009/02/ictpsp-preliminary-description.html
15:44:30 <fsasaki> topic: ITS rules
15:44:37 <fsasaki> Yves: not much new here
15:45:17 <fsasaki> topic: ITS processor API
15:45:42 <fsasaki> yves: will release XML filter soon that implements API
15:45:48 <fsasaki> .. in a few days
15:46:25 <fsasaki> .. trados studio 9 supports ITS, seems to work pretty well
15:46:50 <fsasaki> .. a big step, we can point other people to it. Release will be in May
15:47:17 <fsasaki> .. they support translate, element within text etc.
15:47:44 <fsasaki> r12a: is that their latest translation tool?
15:48:13 <fsasaki> yves: yes
15:49:51 <fsasaki> felix: great news!
15:53:59 <fsasaki> yves: would be good to integrate language tag checker here, will send info about that to Felix
15:54:05 <fsasaki> topic: ITS processor for XSLT
15:55:28 <fsasaki> Felix: nothing really new here, processor is working with its:translate, other things like its:withinText might be helpful
15:55:35 <fsasaki> .. ongoing as usual
15:56:09 <fsasaki> topic: ITS General issues
15:56:41 <fsasaki> Yves: long term AI
15:56:44 <fsasaki> topic: ITS Streaming processor
15:57:07 <fsasaki> Yves: also nothing new, dead end until there is progress in general XML parsing with XPath support
15:57:37 <fsasaki> r12a: making things public like ITS processor etc.
15:57:56 <fsasaki> .. pointing to the wiki etc.
15:58:10 <fsasaki> Yves: we will do that soon, after the release
15:58:32 <fsasaki> r12a: can create a blog item for i18n homepage
15:58:38 <fsasaki> yves: sure, will create some text for that
15:59:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/28-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
15:59:06 <fsasaki> topic: AOB
15:59:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/28-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
16:00:48 <fsasaki> meeting: i18n ITS IG
16:01:05 <fsasaki> present: richard, Yves, Felix
16:01:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/28-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
16:02:43 <Zakim> -Yves_S
16:02:47 <Zakim> -felix
16:02:54 <Zakim> -Richard
16:02:55 <Zakim> I18N_ITS IG()11:00AM has ended
16:02:56 <Zakim> Attendees were Yves_S, felix, Richard
16:03:07 <fsasaki> regrets: ingo, felix
16:03:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/28-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
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