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08:53:30 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be IA_MFWG
08:53:30 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see IA_MFWG()5:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
08:53:31 <trackbot> Meeting: Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
08:53:31 <trackbot> Date: 25 March 2009
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08:59:32 <raphael> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Mar/0057.html
08:59:36 <raphael> Chair: Raphael
08:59:39 <raphael> Regrets: Erik
09:00:26 <Zakim> IA_MFWG()5:00AM has now started
09:00:33 <Zakim> +raphael
09:01:59 <Zakim> + +0329331aaaa
09:02:24 <raphael> zakim, aaaa is Davy
09:02:24 <Zakim> +Davy; got it
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09:05:16 <jackjansen> zakim, ??p2 is me
09:05:17 <Zakim> +jackjansen; got it
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09:05:48 <Gui> +regrets Gui
09:06:15 <raphael> Hi Guillaume, you cannot make the telecon?
09:06:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html raphael
09:06:37 <raphael> Yves, try to dial another number?
09:06:42 <Zakim> +Yves
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09:09:06 <Zakim> +Thierry
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09:09:46 <raphael> scribenick: raphael
09:10:05 <raphael> Present: Thierry, Yves, Jack, Davy, Raphael
09:10:26 <raphael> Topic 1. ADMIN
09:11:30 <raphael> Propose to accept the minutes of last telecon?
09:11:41 <raphael> All: accept without changes
09:11:48 <raphael> RESOLUTION: minutes accepted
09:11:59 <raphael> Topic 2. F2F meeting
09:12:16 <raphael> Raphael: we need to discuss the agenda, build it together
09:13:35 <raphael> ... what are your objectives?
09:13:54 <raphael> Jack: it would be good if we could discuss concrete implementations
09:14:08 <raphael> ... mine could be ready, if we clarify the range unit syntax
09:14:31 <raphael> ... then it is a 1/2 day coding
09:14:55 <raphael> Raphael: my expectation would be also to discuss test cases, and of course the main document
09:15:13 <raphael> Yves: we need to build a story around the 4-ways handshake
09:15:27 <raphael> ... also talk about the link header
09:17:30 <raphael> Topic 3. Main Document
09:17:45 <raphael> 3.1: Syntax
09:17:50 <raphael> ACTION-46?
09:17:50 <trackbot> ACTION-46 -- Yves Lafon to check the formal validity of the grammar -- due 2009-03-25 -- OPEN
09:17:50 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/46
09:18:08 <raphael> close ACTION-46
09:18:08 <trackbot> ACTION-46 Check the formal validity of the grammar closed
09:18:35 <raphael> Yves: I have built a small parser in java / cc that validates the grammar
09:18:43 <raphael> ... no mistake in the grammar
09:20:10 <raphael> 3.2 Use Cases and requirements
09:20:23 <raphael> Silvia and Guillaume will finish it by the end of this week
09:20:33 <raphael> 3.3 Technology Survey
09:21:41 <raphael> Erik would like to know if he could take action to improve this section
09:21:50 <raphael> Raphael: what changes can we bring?
09:22:06 <raphael> ... I think for example that the formal grammar of TimedText is unnecessary
09:22:18 <raphael> Jack: what about a companion document ?
09:22:55 <raphael> ... I would suggest summarize the wiki page in the main document
09:23:07 <raphael> ... and provide an informative reference to the complete wiki apge
09:23:11 <raphael> s/apge/page
09:24:39 <raphael> Jack: I would like to have this technology survey perhaps published as a Working Group note since I find it useful
09:25:41 <raphael> Davy: 5.1 should be in the ref section
09:25:58 <raphael> Raphael: yes, the examples come actually from 5.3
09:26:21 <raphael> ACTION: Erik to summarize the content of the wiki page to put in the main document, with few examples and a short story
09:26:21 <trackbot> Created ACTION-51 - Summarize the content of the wiki page to put in the main document, with few examples and a short story [on Erik Mannens - due 2009-04-01].
09:27:11 <raphael> 3.4 HTTP implementation
09:28:09 <Zakim> -Yves
09:28:27 <raphael> Raphael: I would like to replace all the examples with the real videos Jack took in Ghent
09:29:08 <raphael> ACTION: Raphael to replace all examples in the wiki page with the video Jack took
09:29:08 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Raphael
09:29:15 <raphael> trackbot, status
09:29:30 <raphael> ACTION: Raphaël to replace all examples in the wiki page with the video Jack took
09:29:30 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Raphaël
09:29:42 <Zakim> +Yves
09:29:53 <raphael> ACTION: Raphaël to replace all examples in the wiki page with the video Jack took
09:29:53 <trackbot> Created ACTION-52 - Replace all examples in the wiki page with the video Jack took [on Raphaël Troncy - due 2009-04-01].
09:30:07 <raphael> ACTION-49?
09:30:07 <trackbot> ACTION-49 -- Yves Lafon to draft the HTTP-Range syntax for different units (completing all the syntax for the two way handshake) -- due 2009-03-25 -- OPEN
09:30:07 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/49
09:31:21 <raphael> Yves: I will definitively make that before the f2f
09:31:38 <raphael> ... starts with seconds first, so to not block implementation
09:34:16 <raphael> Jack: do you want to copy the movies on the W3C server?
09:34:29 <raphael> Raphael: yes, to have permanent URI for these resources
09:34:46 <raphael> Raphael: which format we will use? mp4, ogg?
09:35:18 <raphael> Jack: ffmpeg should be able to slice the movie, need to check
09:35:54 <raphael> Davy: we have a piece of software that should be able to slice a media file independantly of the codec format
09:36:06 <raphael> Davy: I will demo this software during the f2f meeting
09:37:21 <raphael> Yves: media.w3.org works on Apache, would be good to check for deployment
09:37:44 <raphael> ACTION: Jack to check whether ffmpeg can slide movies easily, need for implementation on client and server side
09:37:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-53 - Check whether ffmpeg can slide movies easily, need for implementation on client and server side [on Jack Jansen - due 2009-04-01].
09:38:57 <raphael> Yves: also consider the file:// protocol, everything on client
09:40:35 <raphael> Davy: I'm also experimenting to provide a RTSP implementation
09:40:52 <raphael> ... I could report my current work at the f2f meeting
09:41:10 <raphael> Topic: 4. Issues
09:41:23 <raphael> Raphael: we cannot discuss them, since neither Michael nor Silvia are here
09:42:16 <Zakim> -Yves
09:42:17 <Zakim> -jackjansen
09:42:17 <Zakim> -raphael
09:42:19 <Zakim> -Davy
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09:43:22 <raphael_> meeting will be back at the normal hour next week
09:43:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-minutes.html Yves
09:43:44 <Zakim> -Thierry
09:43:45 <Zakim> IA_MFWG()5:00AM has ended
09:43:47 <Zakim> Attendees were raphael, +0329331aaaa, Davy, jackjansen, Yves, Thierry
09:45:26 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-actions.rdf :
09:45:26 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Erik to summarize the content of the wiki page to put in the main document, with few examples and a short story [1]
09:45:26 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-irc#T09-26-21
09:45:26 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Raphael to replace all examples in the wiki page with the video Jack took [2]
09:45:26 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-irc#T09-29-08
09:45:26 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Raphaël to replace all examples in the wiki page with the video Jack took [3]
09:45:26 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-irc#T09-29-30
09:45:26 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Raphaël to replace all examples in the wiki page with the video Jack took [4]
09:45:26 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-irc#T09-29-53
09:45:26 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jack to check whether ffmpeg can slide movies easily, need for implementation on client and server side [5]
09:45:26 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/03/25-mediafrag-irc#T09-37-44
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09:45:35 <mhausenblas> agh
09:45:37 <mhausenblas> damn