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15:44:33 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, make log public
15:44:43 <John_Boyer> Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Teleconference
15:44:59 <John_Boyer> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Dec/0027.html
15:45:06 <John_Boyer> John_Boyer has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Dec/0027.html
15:45:13 <John_Boyer> Chair: John
15:45:16 <John_Boyer> Scribe: Leigh
15:45:28 <John_Boyer> Regrets: Uli, Keith, Steven
15:45:55 <Zakim> +??P15
15:46:28 <paulbutcher> paulbutcher has joined #forms
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15:47:00 <Zakim> +John_Boyer
15:47:21 <John_Boyer> zakim, who is here?
15:47:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see [IBM], ??P15, John_Boyer
15:47:22 <Zakim> On IRC I see klotz, paulbutcher, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, nick, trackbot
15:47:35 <paulbutcher> zakim, I am ??P15
15:47:35 <Zakim> +paulbutcher; got it
15:47:48 <Roger> Roger has joined #forms
15:48:31 <John_Boyer> zakim, [IBM] is Charlie
15:48:31 <Zakim> +Charlie; got it
15:48:35 <Zakim> +Leigh_Klotz
15:49:26 <John_Boyer> zakim, who is here?
15:49:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see Charlie, paulbutcher, John_Boyer, Leigh_Klotz
15:49:27 <Zakim> On IRC I see Roger, klotz, paulbutcher, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, nick, trackbot
15:49:47 <Zakim> +??P16
15:50:04 <Roger> zakim, ??P16 is Roger
15:50:04 <Zakim> +Roger; got it
15:50:26 <Roger> zakim, mute me
15:50:26 <Zakim> Roger should now be muted
15:50:30 <John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Dec/0027.html
15:58:39 <John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Dec/0021.html
15:58:42 <nick> zakim, code?
15:58:42 <Zakim> the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), nick
15:59:19 <Zakim> +Nick_van_den_Bleeken
15:59:25 <nick> zakim, mute me
15:59:25 <Zakim> Nick_van_den_Bleeken should now be muted
16:02:17 <klotz> ACTION: John Boyer to fix section 11.9.1 to resolve http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Dec/0021.html to indicate we won't have the trailing ? or separator in the serialization=none case.
16:02:17 <trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
16:02:17 <trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
16:08:17 <nick> dtyling
16:08:21 <nick> styling
16:09:03 <nick> (controls can be styled different if they are read-only, and locked)
16:17:08 <nick> Charlie, is it Alfresco you're talking about?
16:18:39 <klotz> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008Dec/0010.html maybe?
16:29:57 <John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/2008/XFormsBasicImplReport/BasicImplementationReport.html
16:30:11 <John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/Test/XForms1.0/Edition2/front_html/XF102edTestSuite.html
16:30:39 <John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/Test/
16:42:36 <klotz> ACTION: John Boyer to congratulate Joern van Rotterdam http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008Dec/0010.html and ask for implementation report.
16:42:36 <trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
16:42:36 <trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
16:43:03 <nick> I'm here
16:43:09 <nick> zakim, unmute me
16:43:09 <Zakim> Nick_van_den_Bleeken should no longer be muted
16:48:50 <John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.2/XFormsForHTML/index-all.html
16:50:46 <John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.2/XFormsForHTML/index-all.html#default-data-instance-startsize
16:51:51 <John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.2/XFormsForHTML/index-all.html#data-submission
17:04:36 <klotz> http://intertwingly.net/blog/2008/12/15/Co-Chair-HTML-WG
17:11:01 <klotz> <bind nodeset="foo"><bind readonly="true()"/></bind>
17:11:32 <John_Boyer> <bind nodeset="c"><bind context=".." calculate="a+b"/></bind>
17:12:43 <klotz> <bind nodeset="c" context=".." calculate="a+b" />
17:13:31 <klotz> <bind nodeset="../c" calculate="a+b" />
17:15:03 <John_Boyer> <bind context=".." nodeset="c" calculate="../a + ../b"/>
17:16:16 <John_Boyer> <bind context=".." nodeset="c"><bind calculate="../a+../b"/></bind>
17:16:33 <nick> <bind nodeset="c" context="../a" calculate="b + c"/> isn't the same as <bind nodeset="../a/c" calculate="b + c"/> if you have multiple a elements (I think)
17:17:17 <nick> due to the first node rule on the context attribute
17:21:29 <John_Boyer> <bind nodeset="c"><bind context=".." calculate="a+b"/></bind>
17:22:41 <John_Boyer> is equal to <bind nodeset="c" calculate="../a+../b"/></bind>
17:23:31 <nick> <bind nodeset="c"><bind context="../line" calculate="sum(a)*b"/></bind> isn't the same as <bind nodeset="c"><bind  calculate="sum(../line/a)*../line/b"/>
17:23:44 <John_Boyer> is equal to <bind nodeset="c"><bind calculate="../a+../b"/></bind>
17:23:50 <nick> which can be a bit confusing
17:24:09 <nick> sorry <bind nodeset="c"  calculate="sum(../line/a)*../line/b"/>
17:30:52 <Roger> Happy holidays
17:30:53 <Roger> bye
17:30:53 <Zakim> -Charlie
17:30:55 <Zakim> -Nick_van_den_Bleeken
17:30:57 <Zakim> -John_Boyer
17:30:58 <Zakim> -paulbutcher
17:31:00 <Zakim> -Roger
17:31:00 <Zakim> -Leigh_Klotz
17:31:02 <Zakim> HTML_Forms()10:45AM has ended
17:31:03 <Zakim> Attendees were John_Boyer, paulbutcher, Charlie, Leigh_Klotz, Roger, Nick_van_den_Bleeken
17:31:22 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, make minutes
17:31:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/12/17-forms-minutes.html John_Boyer
17:31:26 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, bye
17:31:26 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/17-forms-actions.rdf :
17:31:26 <RRSAgent> ACTION: John Boyer to fix section 11.9.1 to resolve http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Dec/0021.html to indicate we won't have the trailing ? or separator in the serialization=none case. [1]
17:31:26 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/17-forms-irc#T16-02-17
17:31:26 <RRSAgent> ACTION: John Boyer to congratulate Joern van Rotterdam http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2008Dec/0010.html and ask for implementation report. [2]
17:31:26 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/17-forms-irc#T16-42-36