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12:40:50 <steph> Zakim, this will be mw4d
12:40:50 <Zakim> ok, steph; I see UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM scheduled to start in 20 minutes
12:41:07 <steph> Meeting: MW4D IG bi-monthly call
12:41:34 <steph> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2008Nov/0055.html
12:41:38 <steph> Present: Stephane
12:41:41 <steph> Chair:Ken
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12:56:08 <steph> zakim, code ?
12:56:08 <Zakim> the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), steph
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12:56:13 <Zakim> UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM has now started
12:56:20 <Zakim> +steph
12:56:37 <steph> Hello all
12:57:03 <steph> zakim, who is here ?
12:57:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see steph
12:57:05 <Zakim> On IRC I see Raphael, kiwanja, RRSAgent, Zakim, steph
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12:58:38 <Zakim> +Raphael
12:58:52 <steph> Present+Raphael
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12:59:35 <Adesina> Hello, I will not be able to join on voice today
12:59:44 <steph> ok adesina
13:00:08 <Adesina> ok
13:00:23 <kiwanja> hi all
13:01:44 <Zakim> +??P3
13:01:44 <Adesina> Hi Ken
13:02:00 <steph> zakim, ??p3 is Ken
13:02:01 <Zakim> +Ken; got it
13:03:31 <steph> Richard ?
13:03:36 <Zakim> + +1.509.432.aaaa
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13:03:48 <Zakim> + +1.413.458.aabb
13:04:06 <Zakim> -steph
13:04:33 <Zakim> +Lauri
13:04:44 <steph> zakim, zakim, code ?
13:04:44 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, steph.
13:04:48 <steph> zakim, code ?
13:04:48 <Zakim> the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), steph
13:05:23 <kiwanja> zakim, who is here?
13:05:23 <Zakim> On the phone I see Raphael, Ken, +1.509.432.aaaa, +1.413.458.aabb, Lauri
13:05:26 <Zakim> On IRC I see bgillis, Adesina, rscullin, Raphael, kiwanja, RRSAgent, Zakim, steph
13:05:27 <Zakim> +steph
13:05:35 <Zakim> + +2783302aacc
13:05:36 <Adesina> I am here
13:05:43 <steph> Present+Bill
13:05:48 <steph> Present+Lauri
13:06:01 <steph> Present+Richard
13:06:15 <steph> zakim, aacc is Richard
13:06:15 <Zakim> +Richard; got it
13:06:31 <steph> zakim, aabb is Sean
13:06:31 <Zakim> +Sean; got it
13:07:14 <steph> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2008Nov/0055.html
13:07:48 <steph> Scribe:steph
13:08:38 <steph> Topic: approval of minutes
13:08:45 <Raphael> +1
13:08:50 <steph> Ken: approved ?
13:09:02 <steph> +1
13:09:08 <steph> approved
13:09:16 <steph> rrsagent, make minutes public
13:09:16 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', steph.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
13:09:21 <steph> rrsagent, make log public
13:09:32 <steph> Topic: action items
13:09:36 <steph> ken: Arun missing
13:10:23 <steph> http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/Stories
13:11:12 <Adesina> I endorse the minute
13:11:30 <kiwanja> Also worth taking a look at this as a voice/SMS service - http://www.mobichange.org
13:12:29 <Raphael> looks interesting, thanks
13:13:31 <steph> ken: ACTION: stephane to start mail discussion on the organization of
13:13:31 <steph> the work
13:13:34 <steph> stephane: done
13:13:45 <steph> ken: Lauri to report on Nokia work in education cursus in
13:13:45 <steph> Africa
13:14:12 <kiwanja> q?
13:14:36 <steph> Sean: nokia in south africa experience
13:14:51 <steph> working with the ministry of education
13:15:03 <steph> using mixit
13:15:11 <kiwanja> mxit
13:15:12 <kiwanja> :)
13:15:21 <steph> and integrate content for tutors and students
13:15:54 <steph> result in April
13:16:12 <steph> stephane: material on the web ?
13:16:20 <steph> sean: not yet, just approved
13:16:25 <steph> no public announcement yet
13:16:32 <kiwanja> q?
13:16:38 <steph> q+
13:16:46 <Adesina> Looking forward to the Nokia report 
13:17:02 <steph> Richard: how do you assess the program
13:17:13 <steph> and what is the subject of the content
13:17:17 <steph> sean: mathematics
13:17:31 <steph> delivering locla SA curricula
13:17:32 <Adesina> mobile for mathematics?
13:17:54 <Adesina> ok
13:17:59 <kiwanja> q?
13:18:01 <steph> and there is an assessment methodology and they will assess the results
13:18:39 <kiwanja> q?
13:18:44 <steph> ack steph
13:19:53 <steph> Topic: workshop announcement
13:21:59 <steph> http://www.w3.org/2008/10/MW4D_WS/
13:22:05 <kiwanja> q?
13:23:42 <Adesina> The workshop looks  interesting, what date, venue?
13:23:53 <steph> 1-2 april 2009
13:23:53 <kiwanja> q/
13:23:55 <steph> mozambique
13:23:57 <kiwanja> q?
13:25:28 <Raphael> I'll do my best!
13:25:31 <Raphael> to attend
13:25:32 <steph> stephane: may be we could organzie a group f2f around this event (day before or day after)
13:25:37 <kiwanja> would be good to see you there raphael!
13:25:40 <steph> if critical mass available
13:25:41 <rscullin> not right now....
13:26:00 <steph> so please promote and disseminate the information
13:26:15 <steph> ken: good ot get feedback from southern africa
13:26:15 <Raphael> will do
13:26:38 <steph> Topic: roadmap work
13:27:03 <Adesina> Ken, any financial support to attend?
13:27:13 <steph> will depend on the sponsors
13:27:18 <kiwanja> q?
13:27:18 <steph> for now no sponsor
13:27:25 <steph> q+
13:27:32 <Adesina> kindly keep me in mind if any, I will like to attned
13:27:39 <steph> ok submit a paper so
13:27:42 <steph> and say so
13:29:11 <Raphael> I'm willing to work on the Agriculture group
13:29:22 <Raphael> anyone else?
13:29:29 <steph> stephane: good to share work
13:29:57 <kiwanja> q?
13:29:58 <steph> people should sing for some of the item
13:30:05 <steph> s/sing/sign/
13:30:09 <steph> ack steph
13:30:13 <Raphael> I'll reply to Steph's email in order to share to group list (100+ people?)
13:31:04 <steph> stephane: will put raphael on agriculture
13:31:14 <steph> i will put myself for SMS/voice and web
13:31:36 <kiwanja> q?
13:31:43 <steph> other volunteers welcome to sign for some of the items
13:32:29 <kiwanja> q?
13:32:35 <steph> ACTION: member of the group to read the proposed shared work
13:32:50 <kiwanja> q?
13:33:08 <steph> Topic: AoB
13:33:17 <Adesina> I will introduce to soemone based in Ghana on Agriculuture
13:33:23 <steph> Ken: who is going to M4D meeting in sweden in December ?
13:33:29 <steph> no response
13:33:30 <Raphael> q+
13:33:36 <steph> q+
13:33:41 <Adesina> I am already under Health
13:34:07 <steph> Raphael: was in liberia 2 weeks ago, found that literacy is very important
13:34:17 <kiwanja> q?
13:34:28 <Adesina> Yes, I am going to M4D too, have  a paper I am still working on
13:34:40 <kiwanja> thanks adesina
13:35:34 <Adesina> ok
13:35:47 <steph> steph: 2 trends: using voice, and using iconic languages
13:35:52 <steph> lots of litterature
13:36:03 <kiwanja> is google voice search any good/worth looking at?
13:36:15 <steph> ken: how does solve the problem ?
13:36:28 <kiwanja> thinking about the technology behind it
13:36:38 <steph> raphael: usually passing the phone to someone else if available. otherwise they are stuck
13:38:10 <steph> q+
13:38:24 <kiwanja> q?
13:38:33 <Raphael> q-
13:38:54 <Zakim> - +1.509.432.aaaa
13:41:13 <kiwanja> q?
13:42:29 <Adesina> no thread on the chat?
13:42:43 <steph> Topic: coping with illiteracy
13:43:04 <steph> raphael: a huge problem in my current project in liberia. any idea ?
13:43:41 <steph> stephane: 3 options i'm aware of: voice apps, graphical iconic languages, text-to-speech 
13:44:03 <steph> raphael: working with a consultant will report back to the list
13:44:10 <Adesina> yes, illiteracy is a problem and that is why contextually relevant iconic languages might be the way to go
13:44:15 <kiwanja> q?
13:44:19 <steph> q-
13:44:55 <Adesina> voice in local language also relevant and alos converting speech to text
13:44:56 <steph> stephane: other challenges ?
13:45:39 <Adesina> Steph, put me under health
13:45:50 <steph> raphael: there are other issues than just only information but e.g. the bad roads are also an issue
13:45:59 <steph> adesina, thanks ok !
13:46:22 <Adesina> generally infrastructure like road, telecom, electricity are bad
13:46:39 <kiwanja> q?
13:47:12 <kiwanja> adesina - any questions?
13:47:57 <steph> raphael: discovered also that people are NOT using airtime as a currencyd
13:48:03 <steph> despite what i expected
13:48:41 <steph> steph: what is your objective with your pilot ? releasing a summary of findings ?
13:48:51 <steph> raphael: why not
13:49:49 <steph> steph: could be good to get direct feedback 
13:50:20 <steph> raphael: ok, put me in the next teleconference to introduce my project
13:50:35 <steph> ken: good to hear back from conferences
13:50:53 <kiwanja> q?
13:50:56 <steph> ken: how does people keep track on all the ativites going on ?
13:51:11 <steph> Rapahel: our group is good imho
13:51:20 <steph> the wiki is very good
13:51:43 <Adesina> no question
13:51:44 <steph> we could do more, but a good start
13:52:23 <kiwanja> q?
13:52:27 <steph> ken: anything more before wrapping up ?
13:52:40 <steph> ken: done !
13:52:57 <steph> stephane: next call DEcember 15 !
13:52:58 <Raphael> Adesina, do you have access to the wiki and the M-Health part?
13:53:05 <Adesina> what plan do we have to take this forward?
13:53:07 <Raphael> feed it!
13:53:09 <Raphael> ;)
13:53:18 <Adesina> let me see
13:53:19 <Raphael> http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/Stories
13:53:37 <steph> adesina: how to move forward is described in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2008Nov/0054.html
13:54:16 <steph> the idea is that you look at the health apps/project ongoing and trying to identify some specificities or generalized findings
13:54:18 <Raphael> thank you
13:54:18 <rscullin> Thanks. This was great.
13:54:24 <kiwanja> thanks all!!!!!!!!!!   :)
13:54:27 <Raphael> we'll prepare for next time!
13:54:27 <Zakim> -steph
13:54:32 <Zakim> -Lauri
13:54:34 <Zakim> -Raphael
13:54:35 <Zakim> -Sean
13:54:35 <Zakim> -Ken
13:54:49 <Zakim> -Richard
13:54:50 <Zakim> UW_MW4D IG()8:00AM has ended
13:54:51 <Zakim> Attendees were steph, Raphael, Ken, +1.509.432.aaaa, +1.413.458.aabb, Lauri, +2783302aacc, Richard, Sean
13:54:57 <steph> rrsagent, make minutes
13:54:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/12/01-mw4d-minutes.html steph
13:55:29 <Adesina> ok