20:56:48 RRSAgent has joined #au 20:56:48 logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-irc 20:57:01 meeting: WAI_AUWG 20:57:12 zakim, code? 20:57:12 the conference code is 2894 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), jeanne 20:57:39 WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started 20:57:46 +jeanne 21:01:42 +Greg_Pisocky 21:02:33 regrets: jan, tim 21:02:50 Greg has joined #au 21:05:17 +Sueann 21:06:14 http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2008/WD-ATAG20-20081025/WD-ATAG20-20081025 21:06:41 http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2008/WD-ATAG20-20081028 21:06:59 http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2008/WD-ATAG20-20081028/ 21:07:06 Sueann has joined #au 21:07:25 http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2008/WD-ATAG20-20081028/#principle-promote-integrate 21:07:57 present: Greg, Jeanne, Sueann 21:09:46 +??P5 21:10:11 zakim, ??p5 is really Jutta 21:10:11 +Jutta; got it 21:13:02 -Jutta 21:16:11 action: JS to remove the note for Principle B.3. Discuss whether to keep the concepts in another location. 21:16:11 Created ACTION-45 - Remove the note for Principle B.3. Discuss whether to keep the concepts in another location. [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2008-11-24]. 21:19:36 Authors are most likely to use the first and easiest authoring action they encounter, therefore the first and easiest action should produce the most accessible result. 21:20:50 action: JS to put the proposed wording for B.3.1 rationale in next week's survey 21:20:50 Created ACTION-46 - Put the proposed wording for B.3.1 rationale in next week's survey [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2008-11-24]. 21:26:42 B.3.1.1 Accessible Options have Equal Prominence 21:26:42 If authors are provided with options, then accessible actions are at least as prominent as other actions. 21:28:10 B.3.1.1 Accessible Options have Equal Prominence: If authors are provided with options to achieve the same outcome, then options with an accessible outcome are at least as prominent as other actions. 21:28:54 B.3.1.1 Accessible Options have Equal Prominence: If authors are provided with options to achieve the same outcome, then those options with an accessible outcome are at least as prominent as other actions. 21:30:35 +??P2 21:41:33 B.3.1.1 Accessible Options have Equal Prominence: If authors are provided with options that result in similar outcomes, then those options with an accessible outcome are at least as prominent as other actions. 21:42:13 B.3.1.1 Accessible Options have Equal Prominence: If authors are provided with options that result in similar outcomes, then those options with an accessible outcome are at least as prominent as other options. 21:43:38 GP: prominence definition is missing the ease of navigation to the options - burying levels deep in Properties dialog, for example. 21:44:48 We should include an example of an accessible vs. inaccessible template in 3.1.1 21:45:21 s/We should include /JT: We should include 21:46:09 action: JS to include new wording for 3.1.1 and 3.1.2 for this week's survey 21:46:09 Created ACTION-47 - Include new wording for 3.1.1 and 3.1.2 for this week's survey [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2008-11-24]. 21:46:25 Action: GP to write example for 3.1.1.1 21:46:25 Created ACTION-48 - Write example for 3.1.1.1 [on Greg Pisocky - due 2008-11-24]. 21:47:36 action: JS to draft an additional bullet for definition of Prominence to include ease of navigation 21:47:36 Created ACTION-49 - Draft an additional bullet for definition of Prominence to include ease of navigation [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2008-11-24]. 21:48:07 B.3.1.2 Accessible Options have More Prominence: If authors are provided with options that result in similar outcomes, then those options with an accessible outcome are given greater prominence than other options. 21:48:26 B.3.1.2 Accessible Options have Greater Prominence: If authors are provided with options that result in similar outcomes, then those options with an accessible outcome are given greater prominence than other options. 21:49:18 action: JS to add new wording of B.3.1.2 to next week's survey 21:49:18 Created ACTION-50 - Add new wording of B.3.1.2 to next week's survey [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2008-11-24]. 21:53:03 B.3.2 Integrate the accessible authoring practices into the workflow. 21:55:19 B.3.2.1 Sequencing features: The application has to present all of the accessible options prior to completing the action 21:55:48 action: JT to draft a proposal to reword B.3.2.1 and 3.2.2 21:55:48 Created ACTION-51 - Draft a proposal to reword B.3.2.1 and 3.2.2 [on Jutta Treviranus - due 2008-11-24]. 21:56:26 B.3.2.2 Sequence instuctions, the instructions for a given task must include all of the accessibility inclusion details prior to completing the sequence of instructions 21:57:21 next meeting on Nov 24 21:57:22 -Sueann 21:57:22 Next meeting, Monday November 24, 2008 21:57:24 -??P2 21:57:25 -jeanne 21:57:28 -Greg_Pisocky 21:57:30 WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has ended 21:57:31 Attendees were jeanne, Greg_Pisocky, Sueann, Jutta 21:57:36 rrsagent, make logs public 21:57:41 rrsagent, make minutes 21:57:41 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-minutes.html jeanne 22:02:07 present+ Jutta 22:03:37 rrsagent, make minutes 22:03:37 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-minutes.html jeanne 22:03:48 scribeoptions: -final 22:03:54 rrsagent, make minutes 22:03:54 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-minutes.html jeanne 22:04:33 chair: Jutta 22:04:45 chair: Jutta, Jeanne 22:04:52 rrsagent, make minutes 22:04:52 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-minutes.html jeanne 22:05:41 rrsagent, bye 22:05:41 I see 7 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-actions.rdf : 22:05:41 ACTION: JS to remove the note for Principle B.3. Discuss whether to keep the concepts in another location. [1] 22:05:41 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-irc#T21-16-11 22:05:41 ACTION: JS to put the proposed wording for B.3.1 rationale in next week's survey [2] 22:05:41 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-irc#T21-20-50 22:05:41 ACTION: JS to include new wording for 3.1.1 and 3.1.2 for this week's survey [3] 22:05:41 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-irc#T21-46-09 22:05:41 ACTION: GP to write example for 3.1.1.1 [4] 22:05:41 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-irc#T21-46-25 22:05:41 ACTION: JS to draft an additional bullet for definition of Prominence to include ease of navigation [5] 22:05:41 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-irc#T21-47-36 22:05:41 ACTION: JS to add new wording of B.3.1.2 to next week's survey [6] 22:05:41 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-irc#T21-49-18 22:05:41 ACTION: JT to draft a proposal to reword B.3.2.1 and 3.2.2 [7] 22:05:41 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/17-au-irc#T21-55-48 22:05:47 zakim, bye 22:05:47 Zakim has left #au