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14:58:49 <CharlieWiecha> Meeting: Rich Web Application Backplane telecon
14:58:52 <CharlieWiecha> Chair: Charlie Wiecha
14:59:28 <CharlieWiecha> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-app-backplane/2008Nov/0006.html
14:59:32 <CharlieWiecha> Regrets: John Boyer
15:01:18 <CharlieWiecha> zakim, this will be rwab
15:01:18 <Zakim> ok, CharlieWiecha; I see INC_RWAB()11:00AM scheduled to start in 59 minutes
15:55:58 <Zakim> INC_RWAB()11:00AM has now started
15:56:05 <Zakim> +[IBM]
15:56:09 <CharlieWiecha> zakim, [IBM] is CharlieWiecha
15:56:09 <Zakim> +CharlieWiecha; got it
16:00:40 <Zakim> +Kevin_Kelly
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16:09:24 <CharlieWiecha> Scribe: jackjansen
16:10:43 <jackjansen> Charles: reports on tpac. People seem to like "data as api".
16:11:31 <jackjansen> ... auto-update of gui is nice, plus canonical data format
16:11:52 <jackjansen> ... ubiquity also liked.
16:12:34 <jackjansen> ... no plugins also good.
16:13:19 <jackjansen> ... question about whether we really need open model from browser people.
16:13:28 <jackjansen> q+
16:14:26 <jackjansen> ... question for us: how do we keep momentum?
16:14:50 <jackjansen> jack: how about minutes?
16:15:29 <jackjansen> charles: went out to chairs, ac members. will forward.
16:15:38 <CharlieWiecha> http://www.w3.org/2008/10/22-tp-minutes.html 
16:16:47 <jackjansen> charles: panel on wednesday was nice. Rough consensus in room: good direction
16:17:42 <jackjansen> charles: so far, we've looked across namespaces. How about real rich apps?
16:19:28 <jackjansen> ... kevin did nice work on svg/xforms integration.
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16:21:39 <jackjansen> ... Burbeck also has map app with svg.
16:22:20 <jackjansen> ... Need to show people our pltform is valid.
16:25:03 <jackjansen> jack: use internet data.
16:25:41 <jackjansen> kevin: map is powerful. Saw app where poeple used data upon google map to avoid pirates.
16:26:19 <jackjansen> s/poeple/people
16:28:48 <jackjansen> all: discussing mashups.
16:29:01 <jackjansen> kevin: miss datamodel
16:35:06 <jackjansen> jack: show something on desktop, mobile, accessible?
16:36:14 <jackjansen> charlie: I can put in some work, have to do it anyway.
16:36:51 <jackjansen> ... I need to sell xforms as competitor to silverline etc, not only forms lib
16:37:40 <jackjansen> ... let's think about apps over the week.
16:38:06 <jackjansen> chalrie: new point: end of or charter
16:38:17 <jackjansen> s/chalrie/charlie
16:40:02 <jackjansen> ... Need to think about deliverables.
16:42:26 <jackjansen> ... w3c already has framework for web apps, we should make them realise this.
16:48:29 <jackjansen> action: charlie: outline deliverable
16:48:41 <Zakim> -Kevin_Kelly
16:48:42 <Zakim> -CharlieWiecha
16:48:43 <Zakim> -jackjansen
16:48:44 <Zakim> INC_RWAB()11:00AM has ended
16:48:45 <Zakim> Attendees were CharlieWiecha, Kevin_Kelly, jackjansen
16:49:04 <jackjansen> charlie, do you know the magic incantations to do now?
16:49:31 <CharlieWiecha> yes, i'll check and do the make minutes etc...thanks for scribing!
16:50:35 <CharlieWiecha> zakim, bye
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16:50:50 <CharlieWiecha> rrsagent, make minutes
16:50:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/11-backplane-minutes.html CharlieWiecha
16:50:55 <CharlieWiecha> rrsagent, bye
16:50:55 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/11-backplane-actions.rdf :
16:50:55 <RRSAgent> ACTION: charlie: outline deliverable [1]
16:50:55 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/11-backplane-irc#T16-48-29