21:07:56 RRSAgent has joined #au 21:07:56 logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/11/03-au-irc 21:08:27 rrsagent, make logs public 21:08:44 Meeting: WAI AU 21:08:52 Meeting: Authoring Tool Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference 21:09:49 present: Jan, Andrew, Sueann, jeanne 21:10:02 regrets:AnnM, Jutta, TimB 21:10:10 http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2008/WD-ATAG20-20081025/WD-ATAG20-20081025#gl-manage-alts 21:10:12 chair:jan 21:10:45 scribe: jeanne 21:15:02 Authors have the opportunity to accept, modify, or reject any equivalent alternative supplied by the authoring tool, prior to insertion. 21:15:24 -Andrew 21:16:11 +??P9 21:16:23 zakim, ??P9 is really Andrew 21:16:23 +Andrew; got it 21:17:06 If the authoring tool supplies equivalent alternatives, provide authors with the have the opportunity to accept, modify, or reject the alternatives, prior to insertion. (Level A) 21:17:25 If the authoring tool supplies equivalent alternatives, provide authors with the opportunity to accept, modify, or reject the alternatives, prior to insertion. (Level A) 21:19:18 If the authoring tool supplies equivalent alternatives, provide authors with the opportunity to accept, modify, or reject the alternatives. (Level A) 21:22:14 Topic: B.2.4.2 21:27:04 issue: Rework B.2.4 to be more clear 21:27:04 Created ISSUE-173 - Rework B.2.4 to be more clear ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/tracker/issues/173/edit . 21:27:33 action: JR to write proposal for rework of B.2.4 Issue-173 21:27:33 Created ACTION-41 - Write proposal for rework of B.2.4 Issue-173 [on Jan Richards - due 2008-11-10]. 21:28:36 B.1.3.1 Automatic Accessible (Level A): If the authoring tool automatically generates content, then that content meets WCAG Level A prior to publishing. 21:28:44 B.2.5.1 Templates "A" Accessible: If the authoring tool automatically selects templates or pre-authored content, then the selection meets WCAG Level A when used. (Level A) 21:28:51 Topic: B.2.5 21:38:37 discussion on whether the accessibility status of the template can be known. 21:39:25 js: recommends removing the phrase "if known" because it undermines the entire guideline. 21:40:01 AR: agrees. 21:40:28 SN: it makes sense. It seems to take the teeth out of it. PRoviding the status seems appropriate and reasonable. 21:41:25 action: JS to update the B.2.5.3 and B.2.5.7 to remove "if known" 21:41:25 Created ACTION-42 - Update the B.2.5.3 and B.2.5.7 to remove \"if known\" [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2008-11-10]. 21:44:26 discussion of B.2.5.7 and the appropriate level. Currently AA, discussion of making it A. 21:44:53 JS: the use case seems to be widget repository and that seems to be AA 21:50:14 JS: recommended looking at the complexity of the tool as a way of deciding the level-- blogs and wikis as A, CMS as AA and development environments for AAA. 21:50:56 JR: confusing. If the tool only had its own homebuilt templates, it would just know the status. That would seem to be A. 21:51:19 JR: Later on, checkers are going to make them aware of it. 21:54:07 JS: B.2.5.7 is so broad that it is difficult to see where the level is. 21:54:56 action: JS to draft a new proposal for B.2.5.7 to make it more clear what level it should be. 21:54:57 Created ACTION-43 - Draft a new proposal for B.2.5.7 to make it more clear what level it should be. [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2008-11-10]. 21:55:20 end of meeting 21:55:20 -Sueann 21:55:26 rrsagent, make minutes 21:55:26 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/03-au-minutes.html jeanne 21:55:29 -Andrew 21:55:47 -jeanne 21:55:49 -Jan 21:55:50 WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has ended 21:55:51 Attendees were +1.617.324.aaaa, jeanne, Jan, +1.561.582.aabb, Sueann, Andrew 21:55:58 AndrewRonksley has left #au