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13:58:54 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be BPWG
13:58:54 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see MWI_BPWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
13:58:55 <trackbot> Meeting: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
13:58:55 <trackbot> Date: 16 October 2008
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13:59:04 <francois> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Oct/0040.html
13:59:07 <francois> Chair: Jo
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14:00:03 <Zakim> +Dom
14:00:05 <francois> Regrets: Sangwhan, Bryan, Abel, DavidStorey, BruceLawson, Adam
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14:00:41 <Zakim> + +0774811aaaa
14:00:47 <Zakim> +Francois
14:00:52 <Zakim> +??P9
14:01:24 <dom> zakim, ??P9 is probably jeff
14:01:24 <Zakim> +jeff?; got it
14:01:29 <dom> zakim, aaaa is dka
14:01:29 <Zakim> +dka; got it
14:01:43 <Zakim> +rob
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14:02:02 <jeffs> zakim, ??P9 is jeffs
14:02:02 <Zakim> I already had ??P9 as jeff?, jeffs
14:02:24 <jo> jo has joined #bpwg
14:02:52 <jo> zakim, code?
14:02:52 <Zakim> the conference code is 2794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), jo
14:03:05 <Zakim> +??P35
14:03:12 <jo> zakim, ??P35 is me
14:03:12 <Zakim> +jo; got it
14:03:16 <dom> zakim, mute me
14:03:16 <Zakim> Dom should now be muted
14:03:22 <jo> zakim, who is here?
14:03:22 <Zakim> On the phone I see Dom (muted), dka, Francois, jeff?, rob, jo
14:03:23 <Zakim> On IRC I see jo, nacho, rob, dom, DKA, Zakim, RRSAgent, francois, jeffs, matt, trackbot
14:03:34 <jeffs> zakim, jeff? is jeffs
14:03:34 <Zakim> +jeffs; got it
14:03:37 <Zakim> +berrueta
14:03:45 <nacho> zakim berrueta is me
14:03:45 <jeffs> zakim, who is here?
14:03:45 <Zakim> On the phone I see Dom (muted), dka, Francois, jeffs, rob, jo, berrueta
14:03:49 <Zakim> On IRC I see jo, nacho, rob, dom, DKA, Zakim, RRSAgent, francois, jeffs, matt, trackbot
14:03:50 <nacho> zakim, berrueta is me
14:03:51 <Zakim> +nacho; got it
14:04:20 <nacho> zakim, miguel is with me
14:04:20 <Zakim> +miguel; got it
14:04:33 <DKA> ?
14:05:17 <DKA> I am here.
14:06:05 <DKA> Scribe: Dan
14:06:09 <DKA> ScribeNick: DKA
14:06:17 <DKA> Jo: Hello and welcome to the last call before the f2f.
14:06:39 <DKA> http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dd3jk8v_128gb3xp5hq&hl=en
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14:06:44 <DKA> (crafted)
14:06:51 <DKA> Topic: F2F agenda
14:06:53 <DKA> http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dd3jk8v_128gb3xp5hq&hl=en
14:07:17 <DKA> Jo: Any comments?
14:07:26 <jeffs> +1
14:07:34 <DKA> Jo: BP2 discussion is designed to fit in with brian's shcedule?
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14:07:40 <DKA> DKA: Yes that's the ida.
14:07:58 <francois> Bryan's availability:
14:07:59 <francois> Monday, 11:00-14:00 GMT (8PM-12AM Osaka)
14:07:59 <francois> Tuesday, 11:00-14:00 GMT (8PM-12AM Osaka)
14:08:17 <Zakim> +SeanP
14:08:43 <nacho> zakim, jsmanrique is with me
14:08:43 <Zakim> +jsmanrique; got it
14:09:37 <dom> after the TPAC in Europe, the week after in the us
14:10:22 <francois> s/ida/idea/
14:11:03 <jeffs> +1
14:11:09 <DKA> DKA: I will reformulate agenda and repost based on Bryan's availability. Suggest swapping afternoon on Monday with morning on Tuesday.
14:11:19 <francois> +1 to have BP2 on Monday afternoon
14:11:46 <jeffs> +1 to have BP2 on swap
14:12:34 <DKA> DKA: Ok.
14:14:08 <DKA> DKA: I will put DDR discussion on Tuesday.
14:14:22 <DKA> Jo: Any other comments on f2f agenda?
14:14:23 <DKA> [none]
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14:15:02 <DKA> Topic: MobileOK Basic Tests - the final challenge
14:15:08 <jo> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Oct/0035.html HTTPS
14:15:16 <DKA> Jo: Further go at making the ammendment requested by wscwg
14:15:24 <DKA> Jo: Proposal is here (pasted)
14:15:53 <DKA> Jo: To make sure we understand that the exchange of certs happens before anything else. Any comments on this?
14:16:00 <dom> ack me
14:16:07 <DKA> Jo: We've done what Thomas has asked, right?
14:16:16 <DKA> Dom: Yes I think we have.
14:16:16 <dom> zakim, mute me
14:16:16 <Zakim> Dom should now be muted
14:16:36 <DKA> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Adopt changes to MobileOK Basic Tests proposed in response to wscwg comments.
14:16:48 <francois> +1
14:16:50 <jo> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Change MobileOK Basic Tests per the change indicated at  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Oct/0035.html 
14:16:53 <jeffs> +1
14:16:59 <jo> +1
14:17:05 <jsmanrique> +1
14:17:05 <DKA> +1
14:17:11 <DKA> RESOLUTION: Change MobileOK Basic Tests per the change indicated at  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Oct/0035.html
14:17:17 <jeffs> +1
14:17:34 <DKA> ACTION-835?
14:17:35 <trackbot> ACTION-835 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to contact Stéphane to see if he is interested in presenting MW4D to BPWG at TPAC -- due 2008-09-10 -- CLOSED
14:17:35 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/835
14:17:44 <DKA> ACTION-837?\
14:17:49 <DKA> ACTION-837?
14:17:50 <trackbot> ACTION-837 -- Kai Scheppe to provide explanatory text for the addendum which will put the document (mobileOK Pro Tests 1) in the correct context and explain to the audience that it is intended to aid content authors in creating still better content. -- due 2008-09-11 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:17:50 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/837
14:18:17 <francois> ACTION-863?
14:18:21 <trackbot> ACTION-863 -- Jo Rabin to reword following WSC WG feedback on proposed changes to mobileOK Basic -- due 2008-10-16 -- OPEN
14:18:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/863
14:18:25 <DKA> Jo: Other MobileOK Basic topics... What's the next step?
14:18:56 <DKA> Francois: Once the document is OK we need to take a final resolution. Next step is to implement the change in the checker as soon as possible. This one of the criteria to move to PR.
14:19:09 <DKA> Francois: Shouldn't take that long.
14:19:13 <dom> ack me
14:19:23 <DKA> Jo: We're currently in LC?
14:19:40 <DKA> Francois: Yes - we propose to move forward to PR, skipping CR in this case.
14:19:55 <Kai> I think ACTION-837 can be closed.  Currently we are discussing format of the document, not the introductory text
14:20:18 <DKA> Topics: Accessibility document
14:20:30 <francois> s/Topics: /Topic: /
14:20:40 <DKA> Jo: I believe we're done with a minor change. I think the EOWG has agreed to it as well.
14:21:03 <DKA> Jo: Alan's document still has a little way to go.
14:21:33 <DKA> Francois: Document will be reviewed by Yeliz and still has to be fine tuned. Alan won't be there next week.
14:21:56 <DKA> Jo: Jeff, wIll you have additions to Alan's document?
14:22:32 <francois> s/Document will be reviewed by Yeliz and/EOWG will publish Yeliz' document. Alan's document/
14:22:33 <DKA> Jeff: Yes, at some point in the future we will begin to have some documents for some people to think about which could be part of this document [or other documents]
14:22:52 <DKA> Jo: Ok great - can you give us a brief update in France? [at f2f?]
14:23:05 <DKA> Jeff: yes. Want to make sure we don't slow down anyone though.
14:23:18 <DKA> s/document/documents
14:23:28 <DKA> Topic: BP 1.5
14:23:55 <DKA> Jo: I think we've got a way to go in the understanding of this. What I propose is that we try to get more clarity at the f2f.
14:24:08 <Kai> agreed
14:24:10 <DKA> Jo: Kai - do you have anything to contribute at this stage?
14:24:20 <Kai> Only to echo what Jo said.
14:24:40 <DKA> Topic: MobileOK Scheme
14:25:05 <DKA> Jo: Turns out Phil hasn't done much. I will try to do something with it so it can be in a readable state by the f2f.
14:25:16 <DKA> Jo: Anything else?
14:25:47 <DKA> DKA: Let's get it off our plate so we don't spin our wheels on it anymore.
14:26:10 <DKA> Topic: AOB
14:26:15 <DKA> Jo: Anyone? Anyone?
14:26:45 <dom> q+
14:26:47 <dom> ack me
14:27:39 <DKA> Jo: See you all Sunday! Bye!
14:27:40 <Zakim> -Francois
14:27:42 <Zakim> -Dom
14:27:45 <Zakim> -rob
14:27:46 <Zakim> -nacho
14:27:54 <DKA> Jo: Thanks so much to Dan for his scribing skillzzzz.
14:27:57 <Zakim> -SeanP
14:28:03 <Zakim> -jo
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14:29:56 <francois> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:29:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see dka, jeffs
14:30:05 <francois> RRSAgent, draft minutes
14:30:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/10/16-bpwg-minutes.html francois
14:31:16 <Zakim> -jeffs
14:31:18 <Zakim> -dka
14:31:18 <Zakim> MWI_BPWG()10:00AM has ended
14:31:19 <Zakim> Attendees were Dom, +0774811aaaa, Francois, dka, rob, jo, jeffs, nacho, miguel, SeanP, jsmanrique
14:31:24 <francois> RRSAgent, draft minutes
14:31:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/10/16-bpwg-minutes.html francois
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16:33:29 <francois> RRSAgent, bye
16:33:29 <RRSAgent> I see no action items