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15:06:17 <ericP> Zakim, this is hcls
15:06:17 <Zakim> ericP, this was already SW_HCLS()11:00AM
15:06:18 <Zakim> ok, ericP; that matches SW_HCLS()11:00AM
15:07:05 <ericP> Meeting: Scientific Discourse
15:07:16 <ericP> scribenic: Donald_Doherty 
15:07:17 <Donald_Doherty> [Susie] Agenda
15:07:35 <Donald_Doherty> [Susie] Literature search
15:08:00 <Susie> -> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/LODD/Literature literature
15:08:53 <Susie> -> http://mor.nlm.nih.gov/pubs/pdf/2008-amia-ms.pdf Recommended paper
15:08:54 <Donald_Doherty> [Susie] Compiled a good list. Especially relevant is "A framework for characterizing drug information sources"
15:11:31 <Donald_Doherty> Paper has very useful table with 39 dimensions of drug sources.
15:12:37 <Donald_Doherty> [Susie] Bio2RDF and LarKC papers have a lot of relevance.
15:13:05 <Donald_Doherty> [Susie] We can invite people who have done relevant work to speak on our call.
15:13:30 <ericP> Susie: Bio2RDF and LarKC papers have a lot of relevance.
15:13:36 <ericP> ... We can invite people who have done relevant work to speak on our call.
15:15:18 <ericP> topic: Summary of Bio2RDF [ChrisB]
15:15:33 <Donald_Doherty> Chris: Invite Bio2RDF people talk
15:16:42 <Donald_Doherty> ...They're running into interesting problems of scalability.
15:17:55 <Donald_Doherty> ... Their goal is to bring together as much data as they can and then find use cases.
15:18:10 <Donald_Doherty> Susie: Interesting that they're taking opposite approach as us.
15:18:48 <Donald_Doherty> Spoke about use cases yesterday with Kei
15:19:07 <Donald_Doherty> ... We have F2F next week. During breakout sessions we'll do work on use cases.
15:19:52 <Donald_Doherty> ... We should define a use case that would be useful for both pharmaceutical companies and physicians.
15:20:01 <Donald_Doherty> ... Scope use case to therapeutic area.
15:20:49 <Donald_Doherty> ... One thought was respiratory diseases
15:21:12 <Donald_Doherty> ... However neuroscience will be focus as long as it can be extended to respiratory
15:21:41 <Donald_Doherty> ... Interested in co-morbitity. Drug targeting multiple diseases, etc.
15:21:57 <Donald_Doherty> ... Nice to have links that go from drugs to disease.
15:23:02 <Susie> -> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/LODD/Business Business case
15:23:05 <Donald_Doherty> ... also links from drug to disease to biology to symptoms.
15:23:32 <Donald_Doherty> ... Good to use clinicaltrials.gov data.
15:24:20 <Donald_Doherty> ... Interest from three actors: patients, physicians, pharma
15:24:54 <Donald_Doherty> ... Defined what sorts of questions patients ask.
15:25:26 <Donald_Doherty> ... For instance "What other drugs are available for this disease?"
15:25:46 <Donald_Doherty> ... Defined what sorts of questions physicians ask.
15:26:31 <Donald_Doherty> ... Wondered if we could link to COI work.
15:26:48 <Donald_Doherty> ... Defined sorts of questions phara would ask.
15:27:47 <Donald_Doherty> ... Pharma want to ask a lot of bio questions related to drugs.
15:28:00 <Donald_Doherty> ... These questions would link into BioRDF work.
15:28:45 <Donald_Doherty> Oktie: I'm currently working on the clinicaltrials.gov data
15:29:24 <Donald_Doherty> ... We're working on algorithms on finding links among data. We haven't published yet. Within about a month we'll have something ready.
15:32:34 <Donald_Doherty> Oktie: action to go back to his group to see about publishing data
15:33:29 <Donald_Doherty> Susie:  Will continue discussions with Bosse next week
15:35:02 <Donald_Doherty> Eric: Do you expect this data set to touch identifiers that NCBI will serve?
15:36:14 <Donald_Doherty> Susie: Talk about hosting workshop at NIH during Jan./Feb. timeframe dealing with URIs
15:37:56 <Donald_Doherty> Sound quality is very bad!
15:38:13 <Donald_Doherty> Good!
15:40:24 <Donald_Doherty> Oktie: Use cases go back to the idea of linked data. Wonder if we should publish linked data even if we have no use case.
15:41:29 <Donald_Doherty> Chris: I see no problem with the idea.
15:41:47 <Donald_Doherty> Susie: Same here. However, it is important to be able to show
15:41:53 <Donald_Doherty> ... the value of what we've done.
15:42:22 <Donald_Doherty> ... Chris sent an email to the main list about a special issue of linked data and SW.
15:42:38 <Donald_Doherty> ... I'd like to see us submit a paper.
15:42:46 <Susie> -> http://linkeddata.org/docs/ijswis-special-issue IJSWIS special issue on linked data
15:43:18 <Donald_Doherty> Susie: Data set exploration
15:43:35 <Susie> -> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/LODD/Data/DataSetEvaluation Data set evaluation
15:43:42 <Donald_Doherty> Chris: Two tables. One table has a list of data already available.
15:44:32 <Donald_Doherty> ... the other table has a list that are not yet available as linked data.
15:47:46 <Donald_Doherty> Susie: Focus on something general and then perhaps bring specific company data set in.
15:48:40 <Donald_Doherty> ... Idea of developing a cloud sounds really good.
15:50:30 <Donald_Doherty> ... At Lilly I'm trying to create a high-level ontology linking areas related to bio related to disease, market opportunity, clinical trials, etc. Drugs could be a component.
15:51:05 <Donald_Doherty> ... Chris what are you thinking about for browsers, visualization tools...
15:51:32 <Donald_Doherty> Chris: You can use all different browsers to pick up data.
15:52:46 <Donald_Doherty> ... We could go to the LSID browser...
15:53:12 <Donald_Doherty> Susie: There have been URI/LSID wars.
15:53:54 <Donald_Doherty> ... prefer to use URIs.
15:54:24 <Donald_Doherty> Chris: The linked data must be HTTP based.
15:56:43 <Susie> -> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/F2F/2008-10_F2F F2F URL
15:57:47 <Donald_Doherty> Susie: Good progress! See you in 2 weeks.
15:57:50 <Zakim> -[IBM]
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15:57:51 <Zakim> -Susie
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15:57:57 <Zakim> -EricP
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15:58:07 <Zakim> Attendees were +049308385aaaa, Susie, +0049308385aabb, Don_Doherty, EricP, [IBM]
15:58:15 <Donald_Doherty> Eric... are you publishing this for me?
15:58:32 <ericP> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:58:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/10/15-hcls-minutes.html ericP
15:58:40 <ericP> RRSAgent, please make log world-visible
15:58:45 <Donald_Doherty> Thank you! :^)
15:58:57 <ericP> np. my fingers are programmed
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