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15:03:03 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV
15:03:04 <trackbot> Meeting: eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference
15:03:04 <trackbot> Date: 22 September 2008
15:03:11 <Zakim> Zakim has joined #egov
15:03:30 <josema> zakim, call josema-office
15:03:35 <Zakim> sorry, josema, I don't know what conference this is
15:04:07 <josema> zakim, this is egov
15:04:07 <Zakim> ok, josema; that matches T&S_EGOV()11:00AM
15:04:11 <josema> zakim, call josema-office
15:04:11 <Zakim> ok, josema; the call is being made
15:04:14 <Zakim> +Josema
15:10:13 <josema> zakim ,who's here?
15:10:18 <josema> zakim, who's here?
15:10:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.613.952.aaaa, ??P16, Josema
15:10:19 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, josema, darobin, trackbot
15:10:24 <josema> present+ Carol
15:10:36 <josema> present+ Bob
15:11:13 <josema> [need to learn to what extent TWB could commit in terms of costs]
15:12:49 <Zakim> + +1.202.731.aabb
15:13:08 <josema> some topics: eGov4Dev, NIF, SOA
15:13:12 <josema> present+ kevin
15:13:21 <josema> zakim, who's here?
15:13:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.613.952.aaaa, ??P16, Josema, +1.202.731.aabb
15:13:22 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, josema, darobin, trackbot
15:13:29 <josema> zakim, aabb is kevin
15:13:29 <Zakim> +kevin; got it
15:13:42 <josema> zakim, aaaa is bob
15:13:43 <Zakim> +bob; got it
15:15:27 <josema> zakim, ??P16 is carol
15:15:27 <Zakim> +carol; got it
15:15:32 <josema> zakim, who's here?
15:15:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see bob, carol, Josema, kevin
15:15:33 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, josema, darobin, trackbot
15:15:58 <josema> [talking about the format: workshop, symposium?]
15:16:28 <josema> carol: we need to talk to TWB, sometimes they fund the participation of a given person in events
15:16:52 <josema> ... especially when it's coming from a dev country
15:17:08 <josema> kevin: from TWB, when I talked to Randeep
15:17:14 <josema> ... he's looking for a draft agenda from us
15:17:30 <josema> ... he mentioned Albania and a couple other countries
15:17:40 <josema> ... those would be invited to the workshop
15:17:56 <josema> ... topics: government budget exposed to citizenry
15:18:20 <josema> ... position papers are not an easy process, but could help us
15:18:34 <josema> ... maybe focus a day on that then invited speakers
15:21:47 <josema> josema: AFAIK, TWB likes the transparency topic and we at W3C, too
15:22:02 <josema> kevin: our TF coordinators could help with it
15:22:09 <josema> josema: it's very time consuming
15:22:25 <josema> bob: what did we have for our previous symposium?
15:22:34 <josema> carol: some filtering, not a whole review
15:22:45 <josema> ... we could have a mix
15:22:56 <josema> ... invited and position papers
15:23:15 <josema> kevin: need to find how much funding TWB expects to put on the table
15:23:56 <josema> ... maybe also people in the area
15:24:47 <josema> carol: eg. DC Office of Transparency International
15:24:59 <josema> ... could give a policy level speech on the topic
15:25:13 <josema> kevin: could try to talk to them
15:25:24 <josema> ... I believe it's an interesting kind of speaker
15:26:38 <josema> carol: there's also the issue of open standards vs. OSS
15:26:59 <josema> ... not sure who's the right speaker
15:27:05 <josema> zakim, who's noisy?
15:27:16 <Zakim> josema, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: carol (67%), Josema (9%)
15:27:37 <josema> ... I was thinking of a 2-day event, not one paper after another
15:27:48 <josema> ... breaking with panels, maybe 3 speakers on each
15:27:57 <josema> ... not more than 12 speakers altogether
15:28:22 <josema> kevin: our charter mentions data and semantics, transparency, web guidelines
15:28:35 <josema> ... would like to get input and papers on those
15:28:45 <josema> carol: very important, too
15:29:13 <josema> ... also NIFs
15:29:28 <josema> ... we could have a good session on that
15:30:32 <josema> bob: also having specific presenters are useful to foster discussion
15:31:16 <josema> carol: eParticipation, eVoting, but don't want to make it to broad
15:31:33 <josema> bob: NIF is very important, especially in EU
15:31:44 <josema> ... do not forget the relation to developing countries
15:31:59 <josema> ... very useful for our agenda at this time
15:32:28 <josema> ... I think TWB would like to have us raising issues that should be addressed
15:33:07 <josema> kevin: in my meeting we could just explore financial aspects and eParticipation
15:33:33 <josema> ... how they are performing, how they are putting their info available on the Web
15:34:30 <josema> ... also use of mobile devices in developing countries
15:34:42 <josema> ... Randeep very interested in have discussions about it
15:35:22 <josema> ... I read The Economist a couple days ago and they mentioned W3C work on MW4D
15:35:30 <josema> carols: very interesting topic
15:35:34 <josema> s/carols/carol
15:35:54 <josema> ... in my work in the UN I was very impressed by eg. customs clearance in the Philippines
15:36:02 <josema> ... everything using mobile phones
15:36:19 <josema> ... huge savings, eg: from 3 weeks to 2 days
15:36:25 <josema> ... very interesting example
15:36:33 <josema> ... not sure where it would fit
15:37:08 <josema> kevin: Web standards and mobile interfaces
15:37:16 <josema> ... there's work needed there
15:37:36 <josema> ... second big theme there is interop in delivering content to those devices
15:38:03 <josema> carol: NIFs, related to dev countries
15:38:09 <josema> ... then Mobile
15:38:11 <josema> kevin: yes
15:38:41 <josema> bob: we have to emphasize how W3C and OASIS standards fit in
15:41:56 <josema> josema: could we find a co-host? would be this ok with TWB?
15:42:02 <josema> kevin: need to ask
15:46:10 <josema> carol: we need to ensure TWB can provide:
15:46:22 <josema> ... conference room, water, sth for breaks
15:46:30 <josema> ... anything else would be added bonus
15:47:47 <josema> kevin: we can take an action to draft an outline with what we got from today
15:48:00 <josema> ... then distribute it among our works, agree on it
15:48:04 <josema> ... then send out to TWB
15:48:26 <josema> bob: sounds good to me
15:48:41 <josema> carol: albania, ghana, vietnam, india
15:48:55 <josema> ... some of their initiatives
15:51:22 <josema> josema: dates?
15:51:43 <josema> kevin: need to talk to TWB to find what's the ideal time for them
15:52:27 <josema> carol: although we were originally discussing the week starting 23 March
15:52:35 <josema> ... I'm not able to make it that week
15:53:13 <josema> kevin: maybe beginning of April then
15:53:35 <josema> carol: could you draft something?
15:53:37 <josema> kevin:
15:53:38 <josema> yes
15:53:56 <josema> carol: kevin:/kevin: yes
15:57:51 <Zakim> -carol
15:57:54 <Zakim> -bob
15:57:59 <Zakim> -kevin
15:58:36 <josema> kevin: yes
15:58:51 <josema> ACTION kevin to draft an outline for the W3C/OASIS joint event
15:58:51 <trackbot> Created ACTION-7 - Draft an outline for the W3C/OASIS joint event [on Kevin Novak - due 2008-09-29].
15:59:09 <josema> [ADJOURNED]
15:59:18 <Zakim> -Josema
15:59:19 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()11:00AM has ended
15:59:21 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.613.952.aaaa, Josema, +1.202.731.aabb, kevin, bob, carol
15:59:33 <josema> zakim, list attendees
15:59:33 <Zakim> sorry, josema, I don't know what conference this is
15:59:42 <josema> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:59:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/22-egov-minutes.html josema
16:46:12 <josema> zakim, bye
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16:46:16 <josema> RRSAgent, bye
16:46:16 <RRSAgent> I see no action items