10:40:21 RRSAgent has joined #svg 10:40:21 logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-svg-irc 10:40:23 RRSAgent, make logs public 10:40:23 Zakim has joined #svg 10:40:25 Zakim, this will be GA_SVGWG 10:40:25 ok, trackbot, I see GA_SVGWG()6:30AM already started 10:40:26 Meeting: SVG Working Group Teleconference 10:40:26 Date: 11 September 2008 10:45:22 +??P3 10:45:36 http://schepers.cc/?p=71 10:45:37 Zakim, ??P3 is me 10:45:37 +anthony; got it 10:45:57 Topic: testsuite 10:46:13 AG: finished generating references, and made fixes 10:46:25 ...some of the animation tests revision numbers don't match 10:47:13 ...all the ones I checked have matching revision numbers, but the ones I haven't checked I'm not sure about 10:47:23 ED: how many are left to check? 10:47:35 AG: ~190 tests to check 10:48:48 ED: if the reference and the testcase pass criteria don't match, which is the true pass criteria? 10:49:02 AG: testsuite doesn't say currently 10:49:25 DS: we can publish the testsuite, and come back and change the mismatches in the coming weeks 10:49:45 fonts-desc-03-t.svg 10:49:47 fonts-desc-05-t.svg 10:49:58 AG: came across two tests (above) 10:50:12 ...they're font-matching tests 10:50:24 ...both have status="accepted" but are not approved yet 10:50:31 ...from svg basic 1.1 10:50:47 ...bitflash and opera pass fonts-desc-03-t.svg 10:50:55 ...bitflash passes the 05 as well 10:53:03 http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/fonts-desc-03-t.svg 10:53:10 http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/fonts-desc-05-t.svg 10:55:52 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-svg-wg/2007JanMar/0260.html 10:56:37 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-svg-wg/2006AprJun/0648.html 11:00:51 ED: we'll come back to these for the next release we make of the testsuite 11:00:56 http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-201-t.svg?sortby=file 11:01:39 http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/animate-elem-201-t.svg 11:03:11 AG: will choose a smaller fontsize and regenerate 11:05:26 ...so we'll go ahead and publish, some of the references will have mismatching revision numbers 11:05:35 NH: can I help out? 11:06:07 AG: checking references against each test is useful, but we can do it after the publication 11:06:10 ...would be good 11:06:25 NH: when is the publication? 11:06:31 AG: asap 11:06:55 ...will contact CL to push it out 11:07:44 Topic: 1.2T 11:07:59 DS: made changes to the spec in the past few days, please check them 11:08:14 ...most from actions 11:08:47 ...put in criteria for search-engines 11:09:02 ...hopefully useful for search-engines... 11:09:14 ...still working on dom 3 events -> udom, should be done later today 11:09:15 AndrewEmmons has joined #svg 11:09:37 ...then I need to put the highlevel view of the changes 11:09:45 ...and making it pubrules compliant 11:10:00 ...CL and me are probably the only ones to have spec-editing actions left 11:10:41 ...made some notes about what might be broken in the schema 11:11:08 ...that's something that can be fixed while we're in LC 11:11:19 +??P8 11:11:27 zakim, ??p8 is me 11:11:27 +aemmons; got it 11:11:28 ...finishing up title and desc, changelog and dom3events...those are the only things holding up the publication 11:12:34 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2008JulSep/0262.html 11:13:55 DS: we had agreed to add @rel and @rev to svgt12 11:14:30 ...spoke to some microformat people, and there are some attributes missing for rdfa 11:15:00 ...this along with ARIA will allow svg to be processed in more interesting ways 11:15:23 ...added the 9 attributes and 'role' 11:15:32 ...only requirement is to put them into the DOM 11:15:50 AE: if it's XML then it'll be in the dom, no additional impl. burden 11:16:01 NH: i agree 11:16:04 DS: ok 11:16:47 ...so AE did you do the action for 'static'/bufferedrendering 11:16:50 AE: yes 11:17:18 DS: is a good addition to svg 11:17:24 NH: agree 11:18:54 Topic: testsuite 11:19:08 AG: did you check revision numbers on the ones you checked? 11:19:27 AE: most of them yes, converted most to use svg patchfiles 11:19:45 ...some of the media-anim ones are wrong, because it wasn't supported in batik 11:20:03 ...I could go through and make mockups for those 11:20:34 ED: think we should do that after publication yes 11:20:46 ...svgpatchfiles are much simpler to handle than the png ones 11:21:06 AG: ok, will send out an email and we can go through the ones that we have to fix up 11:24:42 Topic: global/abstractview 11:24:45 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2008JulSep/0246.html 11:24:57 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2008JulSep/0247.html 11:25:05 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2008JulSep/0249.html 11:26:18 DS: curious about deployment patterns 11:26:36 ...content on mobiles is a bit dynamic, right? because of sandboxing 11:27:03 NH: we have different mobile and tv solutions, so there are different players out there 11:27:20 ...may be a problem if the content is using the old way of accessing the content 11:27:31 DS: could you deploy it as having both? 11:27:36 NH: yes 11:27:59 ED: or simply ask them to change the content 11:28:29 DS: this is the reason we want to change it: it'll ease our transition to the next phase 11:29:12 ...will help people making content, to move content out on the web as browsers see it 11:29:35 ...the impact on your impl. is probably smaller than if we wait and try to do it later 11:29:56 NH: will get back to you in two hours or so 11:31:12 ED: it's mostly about changing the name, the functionality will still be there 11:31:29 NH: right, will research how it would affect us 11:32:03 ...some solutions use an svgplayer and then have a bunch of svgfiles and scripts 11:32:18 ...others package svgfiles with the player that isn't dynamically updated 11:32:28 ...some use dynamic updates from a server 11:32:55 -aemmons 11:33:28 +??P8 11:34:51 aemmons_ has joined #svg 11:34:56 RESOLUTION: we will remove SVGDocument.global and replace it with defaultView from DOM 2 Views 11:36:21 ACTION: ed to remove SVGDocument.global replacing it with defaultView in the 1.2T spec 11:36:21 Created ACTION-2190 - Remove SVGDocument.global replacing it with defaultView in the 1.2T spec [on Erik Dahlström - due 2008-09-18]. 11:46:06 -??P2 11:46:07 -??P8 11:46:13 -Doug_Schepers 11:46:14 -anthony 11:46:16 -Andrew_Sledd 11:46:16 GA_SVGWG()6:30AM has ended 11:46:17 Attendees were Andrew_Sledd, Doug_Schepers, anthony, aemmons 11:46:18 Zakim, bye 11:46:18 Zakim has left #svg 11:46:23 trackbot, make minutes 11:46:23 Sorry, ed, I don't understand 'trackbot, make minutes'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help 11:46:36 rrsagent, make minutes 11:46:36 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-svg-minutes.html ed 11:50:59 lol 11:51:23 oh, wow! 11:51:41 Jonathan Chetwynd has unsubscribed from all W3C lists! 11:52:15 this means he won't be submitting Last Call comments 11:52:41 it's a pity, though... he really has helped with SVG 12:02:19 did he give a reason? 12:03:27 oh, nm...*reading* 12:16:13 oh you're removing global, cool :) 12:17:25 ed_work, so that means we can remove udom-svg-202-t.svg, which tests SVGDocument::global 12:17:39 and also udom-svg-203-t.svg will need to be fixed, since it refers to global 12:17:51 i'm pretty sure in that one you can just do s/document.global// in the file 12:18:14 so it picks up parseXML, etc. from the global object in the scope chain 12:35:36 heycam has joined #svg 12:35:53 oliver has joined #svg 13:34:00 ed has joined #svg 14:04:06 heycam: please review the SVGDocument.global changes if you have time, it's possible that there are some redundant bits there still... 14:29:00 codedread has joined #svg 14:29:23 codedread has left #svg 14:44:56 close ACTION-2190 14:44:56 ACTION-2190 Remove SVGDocument.global replacing it with defaultView in the 1.2T spec closed 14:47:28 oliver has left #svg