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14:59:51 <ericP> Zakim, this is hcls
14:59:51 <Zakim> ok, ericP; that matches SW_HCLS()11:00AM
14:59:58 <Zakim> +??P28
15:00:07 <matthiassamwald> Zakim, P28 is matthiassamwald
15:00:07 <Zakim> sorry, matthiassamwald, I do not recognize a party named 'P28'
15:00:11 <Zakim> + +1.317.277.aabb
15:00:20 <matthiassamwald> Zakim, ??P28 is matthiassamwald
15:00:20 <Zakim> +matthiassamwald; got it
15:00:23 <Zakim> +John_Madden
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15:00:51 <Zakim> + +46.4.63.3.aacc
15:01:33 <Zakim> +??P33
15:01:35 <holger_stenzhorn> Zakim, ??P33 is holger_stenzhorn
15:01:35 <Zakim> +holger_stenzhorn; got it
15:01:37 <Zakim> + +1.617.949.aadd
15:02:23 <Susie> zakim, ++1.317.277.aabb is Susie
15:02:23 <Zakim> sorry, Susie, I do not recognize a party named '++1.317.277.aabb'
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15:02:45 <Zakim> + +1.216.445.aaee
15:03:16 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericp-mobile
15:03:16 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
15:03:18 <Zakim> +Ericp
15:03:55 <Zakim> +Eric_Neumann
15:04:21 <Susie> zakim, + 1.317.277.aabb is Susie
15:04:21 <Zakim> I don't understand '+ 1.317.277.aabb is Susie', Susie
15:04:47 <Susie> zakim, aabb is me
15:04:47 <Zakim> +Susie; got it
15:04:48 <mscottm> zakim, +1.216.445.aaee is mscottm
15:04:48 <Zakim> +mscottm; got it
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15:05:16 <mscottm> Zakim, who is on the phone?
15:05:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.416.349.aaaa, matthiassamwald, Susie, John_Madden, +46.4.63.3.aacc, holger_stenzhorn, +1.617.949.aadd, mscottm, Ericp, Eric_Neumann
15:05:50 <Susie> zakim, aaaa is Jennifer
15:05:50 <Zakim> +Jennifer; got it
15:06:33 <Zakim> +[Agfa]
15:06:52 <Susie> Zakim, pick a scribe
15:06:52 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Eric_Neumann
15:07:06 <Susie> Zakim, pick a scribe
15:07:06 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose John_Madden
15:07:28 <johnM> Susie: agenda
15:07:48 <johnM> ...1. introductions
15:07:49 <Zakim> -mscottm
15:07:53 <johnM> ...2. ftf
15:08:27 <johnM> Intros: Jennifer in Toronto, Courtyard Group Consulting, U of Toronto
15:08:34 <Zakim> +Scott_Marshall
15:08:48 <johnM> ...(Jennifer Bayne)
15:08:55 <holger_stenzhorn> q+
15:09:51 <mscottm> Zakim, Scott_Marshall is marco
15:09:51 <Zakim> +marco; got it
15:10:16 <johnM> holger_stenzhorn: Freiburg, formerly DERI, interestedin SWAN
15:10:30 <johnM> Susie: upcoming F2F
15:10:31 <holger_stenzhorn> ...and COI :-)
15:10:36 <johnM> thx
15:11:17 <johnM> Susie: technical plenary (agenda not finalized) at W3C meeting
15:11:37 <johnM> ...should also particpate in Advisory Comm meeting
15:12:01 <johnM> ...and all WGs will have f2f's and interact
15:12:38 <johnM> ...our meetings will be Mon Tue 10/20-21
15:12:46 <johnM> ...this will be in south of France
15:13:01 <johnM> ...need to discuss what we want to put on agenda
15:13:15 <johnM> ...idea 1: strategic directions
15:13:29 <mscottm> Zakim, who is on the phone?
15:13:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see Jennifer, matthiassamwald, Susie, John_Madden, +46.4.63.3.aacc, holger_stenzhorn, +1.617.949.aadd, Ericp, Eric_Neumann, [Agfa], marco
15:13:55 <johnM> ...e.g. what do we want to accomplish, how tasks link together --> unified body of work
15:14:06 <johnM> ...2. main goals
15:14:15 <johnM> ...possibilities
15:14:24 <johnM> ... a. speaker to keynote?
15:14:25 <Zakim> +??P3
15:14:45 <ericP> Zakim, plase mute ??P3
15:14:45 <Zakim> I don't understand 'plase mute ??P3', ericP
15:14:49 <ericP> Zakim, please mute ??P3
15:14:49 <Zakim> ??P3 should now be muted
15:14:50 <mscottm> Zakim, please mute ??P3
15:14:50 <Zakim> ??P3 was already muted, mscottm
15:15:01 <Zakim> -??P3
15:15:24 <johnM> ... b. each task to update progress
15:15:49 <johnM> ...  c. wg's to work during meeting
15:16:14 <mscottm> Zakim, +46.4.63.3.aacc is mscottm
15:16:14 <Zakim> +mscottm; got it
15:16:22 <johnM> ... d. marketing activities discussion, produce for PR materials
15:16:55 <johnM> ...  e. outreach to other groups, e.g. standards orgs (HL7, CDSIC, eClinForum)
15:17:19 <johnM> ... f. updates from other SemWeb groups e.g. RIF group
15:17:30 <johnM> ... or also OWL2
15:18:17 <johnM> scribe: johnM
15:18:22 <marco> q+
15:18:23 <johnM> chair: Susie
15:18:43 <mscottm> marco - can you talk without using speakerphone?
15:18:46 <johnM> marco: idea -- 
15:19:16 <johnM> ... got email from Aaron Skinner about BioMOBY etc. and relationship to SemWeb
15:19:41 <ericP> q+ to mention that SWIG might want to come by for task force updates
15:19:44 <johnM> ... can these various resources incl. NIH stuff might have a common semantic basis
15:19:46 <ericP> ack marco 
15:20:03 <johnM> Susie: wants to learn more about goals
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15:20:17 <johnM> whoops, not Aaron, Karen
15:20:42 <ericP> s/Aaron/Karen/
15:20:54 <johnM> thx
15:21:24 <johnM> mscottm: Karen wants to know if resources for semantically enchanced search in Bioresearch
15:21:51 <johnM> ... wnats to make BioMOBY, BioCatalog, etc. interoperable
15:22:10 <johnM> ... because right now all these resources use different semantic models to describe their services
15:22:26 <johnM> marco: not only that but also need common technical infrastructure
15:22:55 <johnM> mscottm: so we're talking a common ontology for all e-science envrionments
15:23:18 <johnM> Susie: this ties in with question of outreach
15:23:58 <johnM> ... can we get dialin so non-HCLS members with realted interests could participate?
15:23:59 <ericP> q?
15:24:54 <johnM> Jennifer: wants better sense of impact of HCLS. What are current outcomes? how to market?
15:25:34 <johnM> Susie: agree. We need a "canned" presentation.
15:26:21 <johnM> ... need to 1. create presentation; 2. identify assistance sources
15:26:59 <johnM> Jennifer: Eysenbach at UToronto might be agood contact
15:27:14 <johnM> Susie: don't know him, will outreach
15:27:29 <johnM> ;-)
15:27:40 <mscottm> +1
15:28:19 <ericP> ack holger_stenzhorn 
15:28:30 <ericP> ack me
15:28:30 <Zakim> ericP, you wanted to mention that SWIG might want to come by for task force updates
15:28:32 <johnM> holger_stenzhorn: has been busy w/ COI and SWAN
15:28:51 <johnM> ericP: when doing taskforce updates SWIG reps might like to come by
15:29:02 <johnM> ... cross pollination is good
15:29:10 <johnM> Susie: other thoughts?
15:29:24 <ericP> s/reps/mob/
15:29:32 <johnM> ;-)
15:29:48 <marco> I'm afraid I have to go. My apologies. Thanks!
15:29:49 <johnM> Susie: send other ideas by email, please
15:30:21 <ericP> topic: task force updates
15:30:26 <johnM> Topic: opportunity for update on how their task area is going informal
15:30:39 <johnM> ...1. COI
15:30:57 <johnM> ericP: we are narrowing in on answer we want
15:31:33 <johnM> ... but recent setback was lack of imaginary patients who fit profile for imaginary study
15:31:47 <johnM> ... so we are now tweaking our data
15:32:02 <marco> marco has left #HCLS
15:32:13 <johnM> eric: data have to be real data?
15:32:46 <johnM> ericP: we are cheating to make data fit
15:33:13 <Zakim> -marco
15:33:19 <johnM> s/cheating/adjusting
15:33:48 <johnM> Susie: HCLS knowledgebase hosting
15:34:15 <johnM> topic: drug data task
15:34:26 <Zakim> -Ericp
15:34:33 <Zakim> +EricP
15:34:46 <johnM> Susie: Mohammed presented on work on linking specific datasets
15:35:03 <johnM> ... and he will help us use his suggested datasets
15:35:24 <johnM> ... also Chris Bizer wants to guide us about linking data, generic principles
15:35:38 <johnM> ... but we don't have a regular call time yet, but working on it
15:36:56 <johnM> ericN: Angela Xu has a recent paper relevant 
15:37:24 <johnM> topic: SWAN project status
15:37:33 <mscottm> thanks EricN!
15:37:41 <johnM> holger_stenz: can't update because first meeting is tomorrow
15:37:47 <johnM> ... will update next week
15:38:04 <johnM> topic: terminologies
15:38:27 <ericP> johnM: this is a TF that chime proposed for mapping from legacy terminologies
15:38:43 <ericP> ... about 6 folks expressed interest
15:38:54 <ericP> ... have a wiki page and several proposals
15:39:06 <ericP> ... chime proposed UMLS => OWL
15:39:17 <ericP> ... there are several existing such mappings
15:39:36 <ericP> ... another proposal: referencing SNOMED from ref ontologies
15:40:01 <ericP> ... 3rd project: we need generic ontologies for base ideas in medicine
15:40:32 <ericP> ... including simple things like patient and doctor -- could map SNOMED terms for that
15:40:40 <ericP> ... hoping for a weekly phone call at the start
15:40:57 <johnM> ericP thx
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15:41:11 <johnM> topic: wrapup
15:41:25 <johnM> Susie: ISWC tutorial on Semweb
15:42:18 <johnM> ... would like HCLS intro presentation, presentation of basic bio use cases, presentations on projects in use (Susie: drugs, Chime: , COI, etc.
15:42:42 <johnM> ... some hcls will be at iswc: ericP, chime, others
15:43:19 <johnM> ... will be in karlsruhe germany 10/26-27
15:43:34 <johnM> ... iswc 10/26-30
15:44:13 <johnM> Susie: also, please post on wiki about any relevant conferences
15:44:39 <johnM> topic: other business
15:44:46 <johnM> Susie: none
15:45:22 <johnM> Susie: sorry about Chime unable to be here today, but he will do clinical support presentation at next call on 9/4
15:45:28 <Susie> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG/Conferences
15:45:43 <johnM> Susie: thanks all
15:45:55 <Zakim> -mscottm
15:45:56 <Zakim> -Eric_Neumann
15:45:56 <Zakim> -Susie
15:45:58 <Zakim> -[Agfa]
15:45:59 <Zakim> -Jennifer
15:46:02 <Zakim> - +1.617.949.aadd
15:46:07 <Zakim> -matthiassamwald
15:46:12 <Zakim> -holger_stenzhorn
15:48:59 <ericP> http://www.w3.org/2008/Talks/31-ASPE/
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16:03:35 <Zakim> -EricP
16:03:37 <Zakim> SW_HCLS()11:00AM has ended
16:03:38 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.416.349.aaaa, +1.317.277.aabb, matthiassamwald, John_Madden, holger_stenzhorn, +1.617.949.aadd, Ericp, Eric_Neumann, Susie, mscottm, Jennifer, [Agfa], marco
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