IRC log of emotion on 2008-08-21
Timestamps are in UTC.
- 13:49:52 [RRSAgent]
- RRSAgent has joined #emotion
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/08/21-emotion-irc
- 13:50:16 [marc]
- marc has changed the topic to: Emotion Incubator discussions
- 13:50:28 [marc]
- agendum+ Future of EMOXG
- 13:50:35 [marc]
- agendum+ Next meetings
- 13:50:53 [marc]
- agendum+ XML discussion continued: scale value requirements
- 13:51:03 [marc]
- zakim, this will be INC_EMOXG
- 13:51:04 [Zakim]
- ok, marc; I see INC_EMOXG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes
- 13:59:06 [Zakim]
- INC_EMOXG()10:00AM has now started
- 13:59:13 [Zakim]
- +??P4
- 13:59:22 [marc]
- zakim, I am ??P4
- 13:59:22 [Zakim]
- +marc; got it
- 13:59:49 [Zakim]
- + +39.011.291.aaaa
- 14:00:14 [marc]
- zakim, aaaa is Enrico
- 14:00:14 [Zakim]
- +Enrico; got it
- 14:00:17 [Enrico]
- Enrico has joined #emotion
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- felix has joined #emotion
- 14:01:33 [Zakim]
- + +39.63.aabb
- 14:02:11 [marc]
- zakim, aabb is Catherine
- 14:02:11 [Zakim]
- +Catherine; got it
- 14:02:36 [catherine]
- catherine has joined #emotion
- 14:02:47 [Zakim]
- +Felix_Burkhardt
- 14:03:33 [felix]
- zakim, Felix_Burkhardt is felix
- 14:03:33 [Zakim]
- +felix; got it
- 14:05:11 [catherine]
- hello
- 14:05:45 [marc]
- http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/emotion/group/IRC-Cheat-Sheet.html#scribe
- 14:06:21 [marc]
- next item
- 14:09:06 [catherine]
- Marc explains the 3 possibilites for the future of EMOXG (stop, continue as its own working group, join the multimodal interaction as a sub-group)
- 14:10:34 [catherine]
- all the participants of today meeting agree on the 3rd option (join MM interaction as a sub-group)
- 14:12:12 [catherine]
- ask in the mailing list if there are other opinions on this issue
- 14:16:23 [marc]
- next item
- 14:17:01 [Enrico]
- Thursday 4 September, 14:00 UTC
- 14:17:08 [Enrico]
- Thursday 18 September, 14:00 UTC
- 14:17:17 [Enrico]
- Thursday 2 October, 14:00 UTC
- 14:18:30 [catherine]
- next phone meetings: 4 sept, 2PM UTC; 18 sept 2PM UTC; 2 Oct 2PM UTC
- 14:18:54 [felix]
- i will attend the f2f only on the friday 24th
- 14:20:33 [marc]
- next item
- 14:20:34 [catherine]
- Marc: ask the participants who can come to the meeting in Cannes
- 14:21:57 [marc]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-emotion/2008Jul/0008.html
- 14:30:18 [Zakim]
- + +035321425aacc
- 14:30:45 [cgi-irc]
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- 14:30:47 [marc]
- zakim, aacc is Dylan
- 14:30:47 [Zakim]
- +Dylan; got it
- 14:31:10 [cgi-irc]
- Dylan
- 14:33:03 [catherine]
- Marc presents the different issues regarding scales specification: numerical and linguistic
- 14:35:06 [catherine]
- Enrico: proposes to restrict the linguistic values to 5. pb of subjectivity arises with using higher number of linguistic scales
- 14:44:20 [marc]
- unipolar scale:
- 14:44:24 [marc]
- ... +
- 14:44:26 [marc]
- ... ++
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- ... +++
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- ... ++++
- 14:44:35 [marc]
- ... +++++
- 14:52:30 [cgi-irc]
- unipolar scale:
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- 0
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- +
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- ++
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- +++
- 14:52:47 [catherine]
- Some conclusions were made: we tend to prefer 5 numbers for verbal cateogry
- 14:53:01 [cgi-irc]
- ++++
- 14:53:58 [catherine]
- open issue to be discussed: use abstract scale or linguistic scale
- 14:54:51 [marc]
- <emotion>
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- <dimensions set="Arousal-and-Valence">
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- <arousal value="very much" confidence="0.9"/>
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- <valence value="slightly positive" confidence="0.3"/>
- 14:54:52 [marc]
- </dimensions>
- 14:54:52 [marc]
- </emotion>
- 14:58:49 [marc]
- <emotion>
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- <action-tendencies set="Frijda">
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- <approach activation="(unipolar scale)"/>
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- <avoidance activation="(unipolar scale)"/>
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- <being-with activation="(unipolar scale)"/>
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- ...
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- </action-tendencies>
- 14:58:55 [marc]
- </emotion>
- 14:59:06 [catherine]
- Regarding sub-element of Core 3, 4, ...: need to verify the values (eg appraisal dimensions) from a repository
- 15:00:07 [catherine]
- Core 5: we should stick to values
- 15:00:07 [marc]
- <emotion>
- 15:00:07 [marc]
- <intensity value="(unipolar scale)"/>
- 15:00:07 [marc]
- </emotion>
- 15:00:19 [marc]
- <emotion>
- 15:00:19 [marc]
- <intensity value="0.1" confidence="0.8"/>
- 15:00:19 [marc]
- <category set="everyday" name="boredom" confidence="0.1"/>
- 15:00:20 [marc]
- </emotion>
- 15:01:26 [catherine]
- Core 6: Intensity should be a separate element rather than an attribute
- 15:02:04 [catherine]
- Confidence: use same type of scale
- 15:02:41 [felix]
- bye
- 15:02:46 [Zakim]
- -Dylan
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- -felix
- 15:02:48 [Enrico]
- bye
- 15:02:56 [Zakim]
- -Enrico
- 15:03:18 [cgi-irc]
- #quit
- 15:03:42 [cgi-irc]
- \quit
- 15:07:10 [catherine]
- Meeting: Emotion Incubator meeting
- 15:07:44 [catherine]
- Chair: marc
- 15:08:02 [catherine]
- Scribe: catherine
- 15:08:03 [marc]
- Present: Catherine, Felix, Enrico, Dylan, Marc
- 15:08:12 [marc]
- Regrets: Ian, Bill, Bjoern, Paolo
- 15:08:22 [catherine]
- ScribeNick: cath
- 15:08:46 [catherine]
- ScribeNick: catherine
- 15:08:57 [marc]
- rrsagent, make logs public
- 15:09:10 [marc]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
- 15:09:10 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/08/21-emotion-minutes.html marc
- 15:11:42 [Zakim]
- -marc
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- -Catherine
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- INC_EMOXG()10:00AM has ended
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- zakim, bye
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- Zakim has left #emotion
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- Attendees were marc, +39.011.291.aaaa, Enrico, +39.63.aabb, Catherine, felix, +035321425aacc, Dylan
- 15:11:50 [marc]
- rrsagent, bye
- 15:11:50 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items