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10:32:00 <trackbot> Meeting: SVG Working Group Teleconference
10:32:00 <trackbot> Date: 14 August 2008
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10:32:38 <aemmons> zakim, ??p0 is me
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10:34:11 <anthony> Zakim, ??P2 is me
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10:38:18 <aemmons> Scribe: Andrew / Anthony
10:38:24 <aemmons> Chair: Andrew
10:38:40 <aemmons> Regrets: Chris, Cameron, Erik
10:39:24 <aemmons> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2008JulSep/0155.html
10:39:54 <aemmons> Topic: Test coverage
10:41:44 <anthony> AE: I'll edit the wiki table
10:41:53 <aemmons> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/wiki/TestCoverage#preview
10:42:22 <aemmons> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/wiki/TestCoverage
10:43:34 <anthony> AG: Link to the test suite was wrong
10:43:51 <anthony> ... can I update the wiki and respond back?
10:43:53 <anthony> DS: Yes
10:44:47 <anthony> AE: Risk of putting the link in the Wiki is it's just a snap shot
10:44:55 <anthony> ... it's all working progress
10:45:10 <anthony> ... should reiterate that there are bugs in it
10:46:24 <anthony> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/archives/W3C_SVG_12_TinyTestSuite.tar.gz
10:47:09 <anthony> AG: That's the tar file I made for the release in France
10:48:22 <anthony> DS: We could make a new tar and put it some where
10:48:39 <anthony> ... but we'll make a lot of changes at the F2F
10:49:11 <anthony> AE: I wouldn't make a new ZIP unless it's an official release
10:49:19 <anthony> ... the thing is we're not there yet
10:49:30 <anthony> ... so I wouldn't want to make a release
10:49:45 <anthony> ... we can put that up and also a link to the CVS repository
10:50:40 <shepazu> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Test_Suite_Overview
10:51:16 <anthony> AE: That link is a good place to put the public archive
10:51:25 <shepazu> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Test/
10:51:27 <anthony> ... for the SVG directoy of the test sutie
10:51:37 <anthony> s/sutie/suite/
10:52:01 <anthony> DS: I guess I should put the link both places
10:52:16 <anthony> ... just trying to see where that is linked from
10:52:40 <anthony> DS: On the front page of the group it links to that page.
10:52:50 <anthony> AE: But it should probably link to the wiki page instead
10:53:22 <anthony> DS: It's a pain to manage to resources
10:53:28 <anthony> AE: Should probably redirect it
10:54:15 <anthony> ACTION: Doug to Redirect SVG/Test to the test suite overview on the wiki
10:54:16 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2125 - Redirect SVG/Test to the test suite overview on the wiki [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-08-21].
10:54:21 <aemmons> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/wiki/TestCoverage
10:54:34 <anthony> AE: It was fairly big
10:54:41 <anthony> ... but it's getting smaller and smaller
10:54:50 <anthony> ... we did a run time sync
10:55:10 <anthony> ... and I also did some move focus
10:55:22 <anthony> DS: Then there are only a few left
10:55:46 <anthony> AE: I'd be comfortable submitting that even with a few missing
10:55:57 <anthony> ... We have great coverage
10:56:04 <anthony> ... just focus on fixing the errors
10:56:43 <anthony> Topic: Marathon Telcon
10:56:59 <anthony> AE: Not sure we've done one this summer
10:57:20 <anthony> ... but it had limited success because of the regrets
10:59:16 <anthony> ... action leader board is about the same
10:59:21 <anthony> ... I've done most of mine
11:00:41 <anthony> Topic: F2F Agenda
11:01:28 <anthony> DS: Should be focusing on test suite and edit actions on the spec
11:02:00 <aemmons> The Nuremburg F2F meeting will hosted by Examotion, and will take place at their offices at insert address. Wireless and wired network connectivity and video projectors will be made available
11:02:56 <anthony> AE: Probably wont have time to do other things
11:04:33 <anthony> AG: will we have time to talk about modules?
11:05:05 <anthony> AE: Maybe a quickly in the morning
11:05:12 <anthony> ... only very briefly
11:05:30 <anthony> DS: We're coming up on SVG Open so we should have something to tell them about that
11:05:37 <anthony> ... but I agree not much focus
11:07:32 <aemmons> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2021
11:07:46 <anthony> Topic: Issue 2021
11:11:06 <anthony> DS: can't see where the 100 comes from
11:11:30 <anthony> ... don't really know how to solve this
11:11:45 <anthony> AE: And both people who were discussing this are not here
11:11:50 <anthony> ... so we should wait for them
11:12:06 <anthony> ... my comment is though we shouldn't make any hasty changes
11:12:28 <anthony> ... unless we are really confident
11:12:36 <aemmons> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2016
11:12:57 <anthony> Topic: Issue 2016
11:13:52 <anthony> AE: I like the proposed change
11:13:55 <anthony> ... it makes sense
11:14:02 <anthony> DS: Fine with me
11:16:12 <anthony> ACTION: Emmons to make the change proposed in Issue2016
11:16:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2126 - Make the change proposed in Issue2016 [on Andrew Emmons - due 2008-08-21].
11:16:56 <aemmons> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2009
11:17:07 <anthony> Topic: Issue 2009
11:17:46 <anthony> DS: We had a talk about this
11:17:54 <anthony> ... and I had an action to talk to someone
11:18:31 <anthony> ... it's not resolved so not sure what to do
11:18:45 <anthony> AE: If you have an action you can close the issue
11:21:41 <aemmons> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/track/issues/333
11:22:47 <anthony> Topic: Issue 333
11:24:06 <anthony> AE: In one email Cameron said to discuss it in his absence
11:24:25 <anthony> ... we did discuss this in April 10
11:24:55 <anthony> ... Doug you had an action to propose something
11:25:26 <anthony> DS: I thought this was going to be for full only
11:26:02 <anthony> ... it is something Cameron and I can do at the F2F
11:26:41 <anthony> ACTION: Doug to talk to the team about moving specific issues over from the old tacker to the new one
11:26:41 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2127 - Talk to the team about moving specific issues over from the old tacker to the new one [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-08-21].
11:27:17 <anthony> DS: I'm just wondering if it's worth the energy to do this
11:27:35 <anthony> ... when we can put the time to completing the issues
11:27:40 <anthony> ... I'll find out how easy it is
11:27:56 <anthony> AE: Even if we had an action in the new tracker that says to complete
11:28:03 <anthony> ... and action in the old tracker
11:28:25 <shepazu> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Group/wiki/OttawaF2F2008
11:28:40 <anthony> Topic: Test Fest
11:29:00 <anthony> DS: I've made a rego form for the F2F
11:29:08 <anthony> s/F2F/Test Fest/
11:32:13 <anthony> AE: Registration form is for only members?
11:32:35 <anthony> DS: Only members can respond
11:32:46 <anthony> ... but I can extend it so public can respond
11:33:05 <anthony> AE: Have the option to say if they are going to be there in person
11:33:17 <anthony> ... or if they are going to submit an implementation
11:33:58 <anthony> DS: Ok so anyone can fill in this form
11:35:42 <anthony> AE: Should also have a drop down form to say "brining an implementation or submitting an implementation"
11:37:34 <anthony> <discussion on what question to put on submission form>
11:41:44 <anthony> DS: Anything else to add let me know
11:41:52 <anthony> AE: If you can email the public list with the link
11:43:33 <Zakim> -aemmons
11:50:19 <Zakim> -Doug_Schepers
11:50:20 <Zakim> -anthony
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