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15:52:07 <RolandMerrick> Zakim, list
15:52:07 <Zakim> I see IA_Team()10:00AM, Team_(design)15:04Z, SW_HCLS(Bio-Ont WG)11:00AM, SW_RIF()11:00AM, Team_(h)15:26Z active
15:52:09 <Zakim> also scheduled at this time are WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM, MWI_TSWG()11:00AM, SW_SWD()11:00AM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM, INC_RWAB()11:00AM, XML_ET-TF()11:00AM, T&S_XMLSEC()10:00AM,
15:52:13 <Zakim> ... SW_HCLS(Chairs)12:00PM
15:52:31 <RolandMerrick> Zakim, this will be WS_SOAP-JM
15:52:31 <Zakim> ok, RolandMerrick; I see WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
15:53:50 <RolandMerrick> Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference
15:54:08 <RolandMerrick> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2008Jul/0014.html
15:54:30 <RolandMerrick> rrsagent, make minutes
15:54:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/22-soap-jms-minutes.html RolandMerrick
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15:57:00 <Zakim> WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM has now started
15:57:07 <Zakim> +alewis
15:58:41 <Zakim> +[IBM]
15:58:45 <Zakim> +Roland_Merrick
15:59:08 <Roland> Zakim, IBM is Phil
15:59:08 <Zakim> +Phil; got it
16:00:50 <Zakim> +[TIBCO]
16:01:12 <Roland> Zakim, TIBCI is Eric
16:01:12 <Zakim> sorry, Roland, I do not recognize a party named 'TIBCI'
16:01:24 <Roland> Zakim, TIBCO is Eric
16:01:24 <Zakim> +Eric; got it
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16:03:14 <Zakim> +Yves
16:03:39 <Zakim> +markphillips
16:05:34 <markphillips> scribeNick: markphillips
16:05:46 <Roland> Chair: Roland
16:05:46 <markphillips> TOPIC: Actions 
16:07:55 <markphillips> Eric's action (clarifying what we mean by "MUST fully support the JMS IRI") 
16:08:27 <markphillips> Eric: Looking at other URI schemes to see how this is handled 
16:09:08 <markphillips> Mark's action to look at XML schema - still outstanding
16:09:28 <Yves> http://dev.w3.org/2008/ws/soapjms/soapjms.html#binding-properties
16:09:33 <markphillips> Roland's action to look at how we indicate normative and non-normative sections of the code 
16:10:04 <Yves> http://dev.w3.org/2008/ws/soapjms/soapjms.html#binding-header-props
16:10:43 <Zakim> +GlenD
16:10:52 <markphillips> Roland: action still outstanding - but a code example is included in section 2.2.2 (see the link above) 
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16:12:50 <gdaniels> (hey folks, Glen joined a couple mins ago - sorry to be late!)
16:12:55 <markphillips> Eric: This draws a lot of attention to a non-normative section 
16:14:47 <markphillips> Roland will try some different styles to simplify the presentation - possibly a sub-section which bounds the non-normative examples
16:15:46 <markphillips> (just for sections 2.2.2 and 2.2.3)
16:17:26 <markphillips> TOPIC: Testing
16:20:10 <markphillips> Phil: No testing strategy has been agreed yet
16:22:44 <markphillips> Glen: A test suite does not need to be a full SOAP stack - it can be build onto JMS 
16:26:41 <markphillips> Eric: tests don't need to be code - could have written instructions - tests need to show interoperability 
16:26:53 <markphillips> Glen:  We need 2 interoperable implementations for every MUST constraint 
16:27:23 <markphillips> Eric:  Proposal:  We need to identify test scenarios in textual form  
16:28:16 <markphillips> Eric: e.g. Outlined One-way and request-response message exchanges, and some WSDL 
16:29:11 <markphillips> Roland: Need to also identify which assertions are addressed by these test scenarios 
16:31:49 <markphillips> Glen: WS-Addressing test cases may provide a useful template
16:32:22 <gdaniels> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/addr/testsuite/testcases/
16:33:28 <markphillips> Action: Phil to write up one or two initial test scenarios - a one-way and request-response 
16:33:28 <trackbot> Created ACTION-16 - Write up one or two initial test scenarios - a one-way and request-response  [on Phil Adams - due 2008-07-29].
16:35:06 <markphillips> Glen: WS-Addressing template looks suitable.  It uses XPath for the assertions - see http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/addr/testsuite/testcases/#test1238
16:35:40 <markphillips> Eric: For XPath to work we'd need a syntax to represent the JMS messages 
16:38:45 <Zakim> -Eric
16:38:46 <Zakim> -Derek
16:38:47 <Zakim> -Phil
16:38:48 <Zakim> -GlenD
16:38:48 <Zakim> -markphillips
16:38:49 <Zakim> -Roland_Merrick
16:38:49 <Zakim> -Yves
16:38:50 <Zakim> -alewis
16:38:52 <Zakim> WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM has ended
16:38:52 <markphillips> rrsagent, generate minutes
16:38:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/22-soap-jms-minutes.html markphillips
16:38:54 <Zakim> Attendees were alewis, Roland_Merrick, Phil, Eric, Derek, Yves, markphillips, GlenD
17:18:47 <Roland> rrsagent, generate minutes
17:18:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/22-soap-jms-minutes.html Roland
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