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15:00:05 <Norm> Meeting: XML Processing Model WG
15:00:05 <Norm> Date: 19 June 2008
15:00:05 <Norm> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2008/06/19-agenda
15:00:05 <Norm> Meeting: 116
15:00:05 <Norm> Chair: Norm
15:00:06 <Norm> Scribe: Norm
15:00:10 <Norm> ScribeNick: Norm
15:00:22 <Zakim> XML_PMWG()11:00AM has now started
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15:00:44 <Zakim> +Norm
15:01:23 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:01:28 <ruilopes> Zakim, [I is me
15:01:28 <Zakim> +ruilopes; got it
15:01:31 <Zakim> +Vojtech
15:01:48 <Norm> Zakim, who's on the phne?
15:01:48 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, Norm.
15:01:50 <Norm> Zakim, who's on the phone?
15:01:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see PGrosso, Norm, ruilopes, Vojtech
15:03:02 <ht> zakim, please call ht-781
15:03:02 <Zakim> ok, ht; the call is being made
15:03:04 <Zakim> +Ht
15:05:48 <Norm> Topic: Accept this agenda?
15:05:48 <Norm> -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2008/06/19-agenda
15:05:59 <Norm> Norm proposes to add C14N to the agenda
15:06:17 <Norm> Accepted as amended.
15:06:24 <Norm> Topic: Accept minutes from the previous meeting?
15:06:24 <Norm> -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2008/06/12-minutes.html
15:06:30 <Norm> Norm: Thank you, Henry, for chairing.
15:06:35 <Norm> Norm: And scribing!
15:06:38 <Norm> Accepted.
15:06:41 <ht> Vonage dropped me!
15:06:43 <Norm> Topic: Next meeting: telcon 26 June 2008?
15:06:46 <ht> zakim, disconnect ht
15:06:46 <Zakim> Ht is being disconnected
15:06:48 <Zakim> -Ht
15:06:49 <ht> zakim, please call ht-781
15:06:49 <Zakim> ok, ht; the call is being made
15:06:51 <Zakim> +Ht
15:07:06 <Norm> None regrets heard.
15:07:22 <Norm> Topic: Comments on current editor's draft?
15:07:45 <Norm> Norm: Anyone looked at it?
15:07:50 <Norm> Henry: Not I, sorry.
15:08:13 <Norm> Zakim, who's on the phone?
15:08:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see PGrosso, Norm, ruilopes, Vojtech, Ht
15:08:21 <Norm> Present: Paul, Norm, Rui, Vojtech, Henry
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15:08:50 <Norm> Topic: p:filter select expressions
15:09:12 <Norm> Norm: I put this on because there was a thread, but I think it all resolved itself.
15:09:58 <Norm> Norm: The p:filter step needs to throw an error if you get non-nodes.
15:10:12 <Norm> Vojtech: Yes, and I wanted to reuse an XD error but we should use a component error.
15:10:31 <Zakim> +alexmilowski
15:10:46 <Norm> Present: Paul, Norm, Rui, Vojtech, Henry, Alex
15:11:18 <Norm> Topic: Error code QNames
15:11:42 <Norm> Vojtech: Can the p:error step throw err:XD* errors?
15:11:47 <Norm> Norm: I think it should be allowed to.
15:12:16 <Norm> Vojtech: I think it makes it possible for a step to re-throw errors, which could be usefl.
15:12:34 <Norm> Norm: Anyone opposed?
15:13:21 <Norm> Proposal: there are no constraints on what errors p:error can throw.
15:13:34 <Norm> Rui: What about static errors?
15:14:43 <Norm> Norm: The fact that you'd have to throw an error if someone attempted to throw an error that they're not allowed to throw is sufficiently bizarre that I think we shouldn't bother.
15:14:56 <Norm> Accepted.
15:15:13 <Norm> Topic: C14N support
15:15:19 <Norm> Norm attempt to summarize the minutes
15:17:45 <Norm> Norm: For V1.0, let's leave it up to implementors to use an implementation-defined method.
15:19:38 <Norm> Alex: But if someone wanted to do it, they'd need to use extension attributes
15:19:50 <Norm> Some discussion about whether or not extension attributes are allowed on p:serialization. They are.
15:20:07 <Norm> Alex: I'm ok with this story.
15:20:17 <Norm> Proposal: Do nothing for this in V1.0
15:20:39 <Norm> Norm observes that Mohamed isn't here, but hopefull that'll be ok.
15:20:46 <Norm> Accepted.
15:21:09 <Norm> Topic: Any other business?
15:21:18 <Norm> Alex: There were some questions about http-request.
15:21:27 <alexmilowski> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-processing-model-wg/2008Jun/0031.html
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15:23:45 <Norm> Vojtech: If @detailed is false, is the c:body element generated or not?
15:24:48 <Norm> Alex: If it's not specified, you get the raw content for XML media types, otherwise you get a c:body with data inside.
15:25:17 <Norm> Vojtech: It seems clear to me now.
15:26:28 <Norm> Alex: You can put multipart inside multipart, but I don't think we should try to deal with that.
15:26:43 <Norm> ...I think we should only do the first level.
15:27:12 <Norm> Vojtech: But there's no way you can dive deeper into the multipart-mixed
15:27:53 <Norm> Alex: There's a hole there, but I don't think I want to get http-request to dig deeper
15:28:12 <Norm> Norm: I'm comfortable with the answer.
15:28:29 <Norm> Vojtech: I was just wondering
15:28:53 <Norm> Proposal: We're only going to support one-level of de-multiparting.
15:29:27 <Norm> ACTION: Alex to add a note to the spec to indicate that we'll only do one level.
15:35:14 <Norm> Some discussion of content-type vs. encoding.
15:37:33 <Norm> Vojtech: Then maybe what's missing is some discussion of what to do if the encoding is base64
15:39:05 <Norm> Norm: Maybe an example that uses base64 encoding would help.
15:39:11 <Norm> Vojtech: The test suite could cover this.
15:40:29 <Norm> ACTION: Norm+Alex to construct examples for the test suite
15:43:50 <Norm> Some discussion of the note at the end of the "Converting Response Entity Bodies" section (7.1.9/10.4)
15:44:14 <Norm> Alex: If you send the data with a non-Unicode character encoding, that's not our problem.
15:44:39 <Norm> Proposal: Strike the note.
15:45:14 <Norm> Accepted.
15:45:49 <Norm> Adjourned.
15:45:52 <Zakim> -Vojtech
15:45:53 <Zakim> -Norm
15:45:53 <Zakim> -ruilopes
15:45:53 <Zakim> -Ht
15:45:56 <Norm> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
15:45:58 <Zakim> -alexmilowski
15:45:59 <Norm> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:45:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/06/19-xproc-minutes.html Norm
15:50:39 <Zakim> -PGrosso
15:50:41 <Zakim> XML_PMWG()11:00AM has ended
15:50:42 <Zakim> Attendees were PGrosso, Norm, [IPcaller], ruilopes, Vojtech, Ht, alexmilowski
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