IRC log of rdfa on 2008-05-29

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rrsagent, please make record public
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zakim, this will be rdfa
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ok, Ralph; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
14:57:29 [Ralph]
Meeting: RDF-in-XHTML Task Force
14:58:08 [Ralph]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008May/0211.html
14:59:05 [Ralph]
-> http://www.w3.org/2008/05/15-rdfa-minutes.html previous 2008-05-15
14:59:48 [Zakim]
SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has now started
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+??P14
15:00:01 [ShaneM]
zakim, p14 is ShaneM_
15:00:04 [Zakim]
sorry, ShaneM, I do not recognize a party named 'p14'
15:00:12 [ShaneM]
Zakim, ??P14 is ShaneM
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+ShaneM; got it
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+[IPcaller]
15:00:35 [msporny]
zakim, I am ?[IPcaller]
15:00:35 [Zakim]
sorry, msporny, I do not see a party named '?[IPcaller]'
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+Ralph
15:01:03 [msporny]
zakim, I am [IPcaller]
15:01:03 [Zakim]
ok, msporny, I now associate you with [IPcaller]
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Chair: Manu
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Regrets: Michael
15:01:52 [Steven]
doh. I was in the wrong channel all afternoon!
15:01:57 [Steven]
zakim, dial steven-617
15:01:57 [Zakim]
ok, Steven; the call is being made
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+Steven
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zakim, code?
15:02:45 [Zakim]
the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck
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+ +0208761aaaa
15:03:34 [markbirbeck]
zakim, i am aaaa
15:03:34 [Zakim]
+markbirbeck; got it
15:08:16 [Ralph]
scribenick: ralph
15:08:24 [Ralph]
ACTION: Ben followup with Fabien on getting his RDFa GRDDL transform transferred to W3C [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
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-- continues
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ACTION: Manu to reach out to Slashdot and attempt to get RDFa integrated into Slashdot. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action10]
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-- continues
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[DONE] ACTION: Mark to move _:a bnode notation to normative section [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/04/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action05]
15:10:09 [Ralph]
ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
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-- continues
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ACTION: Michael to determine which useless-triples test cases to remove and which to add. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
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-- continues
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/29-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph
15:11:04 [Ralph]
Topic: Response to TAG
15:11:31 [Ralph]
Steven: I don't really understand DanC's point
15:12:00 [Ralph]
Mark: the idea of "Follow your nose" seems to mean "let's leave HTML and XHTML untouched but add something else"
15:12:11 [Ralph]
... but we _are_ changing XHTML1
15:12:21 [Ralph]
... reading the TAG minutes I get the impression that Tim is open to this
15:13:10 [Ralph]
... others seem to worry about folks who may accidentally use our new attributes without intending to do so
15:13:35 [Ralph]
... we should take a stand that these new attributes should be used only for the purpose of generating triples
15:13:51 [Ralph]
Steven: and furthermore, doing this does not change the meaning of any existing HTML page
15:14:00 [Ralph]
... it just formalizes what the page really means
15:14:10 [Ralph]
Manu: is there a concern about the HTML5 series?
15:14:27 [Ralph]
... at one point they said that while this may be good for XHTML, @profile does not exist for HTML5
15:14:33 [Ralph]
Shane: that's not our problem
15:14:39 [Ralph]
Ralph: I agree with Shane
15:14:54 [Steven]
+1
15:15:02 [Ralph]
Shane: I had an off-line discussion with NoahM and perhaps someone else
15:15:23 [Ralph]
... Tim definitely concurred with adding this to core XHTML1
15:15:34 [Ralph]
... and proposed annotating the namespace document to say this
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... some were concerned that this means every XHTML document currently on the Web then should generate triples
15:16:12 [Ralph]
... there was a suggestion that there be an announcement mechanism that tells parsers they _should_ generate triples
15:17:34 [Ralph]
Ralph: why isn't this a problem for the consumer of the document rather than the author of the document?
15:17:49 [Ralph]
... I agree with Steven's comment that XHTML always has _meant_ this
15:18:08 [Ralph]
... so the author shouldn't be telling the client whether it should or shouldn't generate triples
15:18:12 [Ralph]
... the client decides that
15:18:24 [Ralph]
Manu: running fuzbot for a while, it seems every page does generate triples
15:18:53 [Ralph]
Shane: so fine, and we should update the media type spec to say that we now generate triples
15:19:01 [Ralph]
... this will make it clear that this is a big step
15:19:12 [markbirbeck]
My argument for not requiring @profile or DTDs:
15:19:14 [markbirbeck]
http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-license
15:19:23 [Ralph]
Steven: I don't agree with the argument that the media type must say that the document is used to generate triples
15:19:31 [markbirbeck]
+1 Steven
15:19:43 [Ralph]
... the media type just identifies the type of document; it doesn't say how you should process it
15:19:58 [Ralph]
Shane: in the RDF cases, the media type does say [something about] how to process it
15:20:04 [Ralph]
Mark: that may be the TAG's point
15:20:24 [Ralph]
... the question "should we waste time processing this document if it doesn't contain RDFa" is one of two
15:20:59 [Ralph]
... the second is "if we process a document as if it contains RDFa, are we acquiring statements that people did not intend to make"?
15:21:09 [Ralph]
... the second is what the TAG is currently debating
15:21:29 [Ralph]
... a third question might concern @rel='license'
15:21:45 [Ralph]
... they're suggesting that we should *not* process @rel='license'
15:22:06 [Ralph]
... this means that >1M documents won't have this clear semantics
15:22:27 [Ralph]
... we can make all these documents available to RDFa easily
15:22:43 [Ralph]
... it's crazy to say none of these documents assert a license currently
15:22:58 [Ralph]
Shane: as a group, we've agreed on this here
15:23:14 [Ralph]
... we only need to address the 'follow your nose' question; it's about how discovery works on the Web
15:23:22 [Ralph]
... related to 302 discussion
15:24:12 [Ralph]
... the TAG appears to have a whole big environment in mind, of which RDFa is a small part, and they want to know how this fits
15:24:31 [Ralph]
... how does a document containing RDFa say that it contains RDFa?
15:24:42 [Ralph]
... Tim says "they all do"
15:25:12 [Ralph]
Mark: we think the interpretation of a document [is specified] even if the author didn't previously sign a contract
15:25:29 [Ralph]
... we're saying "here is an RDF interpretation of billions of documents that have [already] been published on the Web"
15:25:42 [Ralph]
... and we hope people will publish even more [data] than they have already done
15:25:46 [Ralph]
Ralph: +1
15:26:03 [Ralph]
Shane: it's not about imposing processing; it's about _permitting_ processing
15:26:22 [Ralph]
... the TAG's argument is that they don't see an explicit instruction and therefore can't map this into their world view
15:27:41 [Ralph]
Ralph: does the TAG not believe that it is sufficient to have updated the XHTML1 namespace document?
15:27:53 [Ralph]
Shane: there are two ways to update the namespace document; prose and with the GRDDL profile
15:28:02 [Ralph]
... the prose is more interesting to me
15:28:18 [Ralph]
... you go from the media type to the namespace document, not to the modularization document
15:29:41 [Ralph]
... we should propose to the TAG that we will follow Tim's recommendation and update the namespace document, both the prose and the machine-readable and all documents of type XHTML1 have RDF triples
15:29:44 [Ralph]
Ralph: +1
15:29:50 [Ralph]
STeven: +1
15:29:56 [Steven]
"Published specification:
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The text/html media type is now defined by W3C Recommendations;
15:29:56 [Steven]
the latest published version is ..."
15:30:23 [Steven]
(THat's from the rfc for text/html)
15:30:33 [Steven]
s/TH/Th/
15:30:44 [Ralph]
ACTION: Shane draft a TAG response along the lines of "we will update the namespace document, both the prose and the machine-readable and all documents of type XHTML1 have RDF triples"
15:31:14 [Ralph]
Topic: Test Cases
15:31:21 [msporny]
http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/rdfa-test-harness/
15:32:17 [Ralph]
-- test 105; inner @rel neither CURIE nor LinkType
15:32:41 [Ralph]
Manu: oops, seems I broke the test case harness
15:32:47 [msporny]
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+RDFa 1.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-1.dtd">
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<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"
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xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">
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<head>
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<title>Test 0105</title>
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</head>
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<body>
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<div about="" rel="dc:creator">
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<a rel="myfoobarrel" href="ben.html">Ben</a> created this page.
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</div>
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</body>
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</html>
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ASK WHERE {
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<http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0105.xhtml> <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/creator> _:a .
15:33:32 [msporny]
}
15:34:18 [Ralph]
Manu: _:a should be changed to ?a
15:34:40 [Ralph]
... we should verify that the object is a bnode
15:34:49 [Ralph]
... so nees a FILTER
15:34:53 [Ralph]
s/nees/needs/
15:34:54 [msporny]
ASK WHERE {
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<http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0105.xhtm
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l> <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/creator> ?a .
15:34:54 [msporny]
FILTER IsBlank(?a)
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}
15:35:31 [Ralph]
Mark: to be a full test, we should check that there's not a triple with myfoobarrel as a predicate
15:35:38 [Ralph]
Manu: we can't do that in a single query
15:35:57 [Ralph]
Mark: could use NOT
15:36:13 [Ralph]
Manu: I'll investigate
15:36:54 [Ralph]
... there are other tests that don't verify the absence of a triple
15:37:11 [Ralph]
Mark: do we need @about="" ?
15:37:22 [Ralph]
Steven: doesn't do any harm
15:37:57 [Ralph]
RESOLVED: test 105 accepted, with change to check for absence of myfoobarrel triple
15:37:59 [ShaneM]
+1
15:38:07 [msporny]
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
15:38:07 [msporny]
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+RDFa 1.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-1.dtd">
15:38:07 [msporny]
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"
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xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">
15:38:07 [msporny]
<head>
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<title>Test 0106</title>
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</head>
15:38:12 [msporny]
<body>
15:38:14 [msporny]
<div about="" rel="dc:creator">
15:38:18 [msporny]
<a rel="" href="manu.html">Manu</a> created this page.
15:38:20 [msporny]
</div>
15:38:22 [msporny]
</body>
15:38:24 [msporny]
</html>
15:38:25 [Ralph]
-- test 106; chaining with empty value in inner @rel
15:38:46 [msporny]
ASK WHERE {
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<http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0106.xhtml> <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/creator> ?a .
15:38:46 [msporny]
FILTER IsBlank(?a)
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}
15:38:54 [Ralph]
Manu: add similar absence test to 106
15:39:39 [Ralph]
Ralph: no predicate to check for absence in this case
15:41:02 [Ralph]
Mark: a parser might blindly generate a predicate URI of http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/
15:41:19 [Steven]
Is there an empty CURIE?
15:41:20 [Ralph]
Ralph: even thought that wouldn't be a [semantically] valid predicate name
15:41:26 [Ralph]
s/thought/though/
15:41:28 [Ralph]
Mark: yep
15:41:29 [markbirbeck]
I was thinking of the xhv namespace, Ralp.
15:41:44 [markbirbeck]
s/Ralp./Ralph./
15:41:46 [Ralph]
[yep, I copied the wrong test!]
15:41:50 [Ralph]
s/test/text/
15:42:07 [Ralph]
s|http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/|http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml
15:42:22 [Ralph]
Manu: we could test that there is no triple containing "Manu" as an object
15:42:29 [Ralph]
Mark: yes, that's more sensible for both 106 and 105
15:42:54 [Ralph]
RESOLVED: test 106 accepted, with change to check for absence of triples containing manu.html as either subject or object
15:43:23 [Ralph]
Topic: handling of literals in test harness
15:43:48 [Ralph]
Manu: we currently have 4 tests that fail; 100-103 because the literals are compared character by character
15:44:06 [msporny]
<div />
15:44:09 [Ralph]
... even though the test is correct, the harness considers ''' and '"' to be different
15:44:12 [msporny]
<div></div>
15:44:42 [Ralph]
... also, our test doesn't cover the case that <div /> and <div></div> are equivalent
15:44:56 [Ralph]
... I propose that we add two versions of each test; one in short form and one in long form
15:45:14 [Ralph]
Ralph: sounds reasonable to me to duplicate the tests for the convenience of implementors
15:45:24 [msporny]
ASK WHERE {
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<http://www.example.org> <http://example.org/rdf/example> 'Some text here in <strong xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:svg="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg">http://www.w3.org/2000/svg">bold</strong> and an svg rectangle: <svg:svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:svg="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><svg:rect svg:height="100" svg:width="200"/></svg:svg>'^^<http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntASK WHERE {
15:45:24 [msporny]
<http://www.example.org> <http://example.org/rdf/example> 'Some text here in <strong xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:svg="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg">http://www.w3.org/2000/svg">bold</strong> and an svg rectangle: <svg:svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:svg="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><svg:rect svg:height="100" svg:width="200"/></svg:svg>'^^<http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#XMLLiteral> .
15:45:27 [msporny]
}
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ax-ns#XMLLiteral> .
15:45:31 [msporny]
}
15:45:33 [Ralph]
Manu: ^ SPARQL for test 100
15:45:42 [Ralph]
... this is nearly impossible [for a human] to read
15:45:47 [msporny]
ASK WHERE {
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<http://www.example.org> <http://example.org/rdf/example> 'Some text here in <strong xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:svg="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg">http://www.w3.org/2000/svg">bold</strong> and an svg rectangle: <svg:svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:svg="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><svg:rect svg:height="100" svg:width="200"/></svg:svg>'^^<http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#XMLLiteral> .
15:45:47 [msporny]
}
15:46:11 [Ralph]
Manu: the idea would be to include UNION statements where '"' is exchanged for '''
15:46:31 [msporny]
</svg:rect>
15:46:39 [Ralph]
... and has both self-closed and explicit close tags
15:46:48 [Ralph]
... for the convenience of both sax-based and DOM-based parsers
15:46:52 [Ralph]
... any objections?
15:46:55 [Ralph]
[no objections]
15:47:06 [Ralph]
Manu: I propose to update test 100-103 to add all four cases
15:47:31 [Ralph]
Shane: I don't really object but I point out it's an "interesting" combinatorial problem to add all the cases to the SPARQL
15:47:45 [Ralph]
Manu: modified proposal; only add those requested by implementors
15:48:10 [Ralph]
Shane: also add a comment to the tests so when new implementors come along they know why they might be failing
15:48:50 [msporny]
PROPOSE: Add implementors valid XML Literals to TC 100-103 and add comments to tell other implementors that the tests may fail due to XML Literal issues.
15:49:26 [msporny]
PROPOSE: Add valid cases of XML Literals as requested by implementers to TC 100-103 and add comments to tell other implementors that the tests may fail due to XML Literal issues.
15:49:46 [Steven]
ok
15:49:52 [Ralph]
RESOLVED: Add valid cases of XML Literals as requested by implementers to TC 100-103 and add comments to tell other implementors that the tests may fail due to XML Literal issues.
15:50:13 [msporny]
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/120
15:50:17 [Ralph]
Topic: ISSUE-120
15:50:33 [Ralph]
Manu: I believe we've resolved this
15:51:10 [Ralph]
Shane: the resolution was a minor change in the document ~1 month ago
15:52:13 [Ralph]
Mark: this was a case of reading the text two possible ways, where one way was really awkward
15:53:58 [Ralph]
... the problem I thought people were raising was that although the second [myfoobarrel] line does not generate a triple, it may also cause the first [dc:creator] line to not generate a triple
15:54:20 [Ralph]
... we should be more explicit that the nested element does complete the first triple even though it doesn't contain a valid @rel
15:54:38 [Ralph]
... I argued this was clear in the spec by interpretation of step 5
15:55:04 [Ralph]
... the wording is changed to refer to the presence of @rel attribute rather than to a @rel value
15:55:05 [msporny]
PROPOSE: Resolve ISSUE-120 having made a minor change to the Syntax Document specifying that the presence of a @rel generates an incomplete triple
15:55:31 [msporny]
PROPOSE: Resolve ISSUE-120 having made a minor change to the Syntax Document specifying that the presence of a @rel is sufficient to complete and incomplete triple.
15:55:46 [ShaneM]
http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/viewcvs/viewcvs.cgi/rdfa-syntax/Overview.mhtml.diff?r1=1.228&r2=1.229
15:55:51 [Ralph]
RESOLVED: Resolve ISSUE-120 having made a minor change to the Syntax Document specifying that the presence of a @rel is sufficient to complete an incomplete triple.
15:56:14 [msporny]
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/103
15:56:24 [Ralph]
Topic: ISSUE-103
15:56:47 [Ralph]
Manu: our email discussion boils down to "let's not change anything"
15:57:09 [Ralph]
-> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/103 ISSUE-103 a URI-centric approach to CURIEs
15:57:18 [Ralph]
Shane: the argument is that CURIEs are _not_ URIs
15:57:34 [Ralph]
... the implication of being a URI is that they could be used over the wire, but they can't be used over the wire
15:58:00 [Ralph]
Mark: and we've suggested that languages that currently use QNAMEs could migrate over time to using CURIEs
15:59:12 [Ralph]
Shane: in the TAG's recent CURIE Last Call comments they say that the CURIE syntax is too rich for use in SPARQL
16:00:18 [Ralph]
Steven: and we're trying to fix that
16:00:26 [msporny]
PROPOSE: Resolve ISSUE-103, CURIEs are not URI schemes, they are a macro expansion mechanism. No need to change the Syntax document.
16:00:30 [Ralph]
s/that/that limitation in other languages/
16:01:09 [Steven]
There are queries you would like to make that SPARQL cannot do, and CURIEs fix that
16:01:18 [Ralph]
Mark: I'd like my email comment to be included; this is QNAME-like
16:01:34 [msporny]
PROPOSE: Resolve ISSUE-103, CURIEs are not URI schemes, they are a macro expansion mechanism. No need to change the Syntax document. CURIEs are also QName-like, allowing legacy languages to migrate forward cleanly.
16:02:20 [Ralph]
Ralph: +1
16:02:21 [markbirbeck]
+1
16:02:29 [Steven]
time
16:02:34 [Ralph]
RESOLVED: ISSUE-103 closed, CURIEs are not URI schemes, they are a macro expansion mechanism. No need to change the Syntax document. CURIEs are also QName-like, allowing legacy languages to migrate forward cleanly.
16:04:08 [Ralph]
Ralph: in SWD WG meeting, Ben was asked to confirm that the XHTML2 WG will be able to resolve a CR transition request by Tuesday 10 June
16:04:45 [Ralph]
Shane: yes, XHTML2 WG will be able to resolve this by 11 June
16:04:55 [Ralph]
Steven: but there's an XForms WG meeting on the 11th
16:05:33 [Ralph]
Shane: XHTML2 WG will be able to resolve CR transition request by 17 June
16:05:51 [Ralph]
... and we should discuss the CR exit criteria
16:06:03 [Ralph]
Steven: I propose "2 implementations that pass all tests"
16:06:13 [Ralph]
Shane: we've had a request that there also be an XSLT implementation
16:06:36 [Ralph]
... however, I do not believe that such an implementation is possible
16:07:00 [Zakim]
-markbirbeck
16:07:10 [Ralph]
Steven: the minimum requirement is that there are 2 implementations of all features, and they don't all even have to be in one implementation
16:07:12 [Ralph]
[adjourned]
16:07:16 [Zakim]
-[IPcaller]
16:07:40 [Zakim]
-Steven
16:07:41 [Zakim]
-ShaneM
16:07:42 [Zakim]
-Ralph
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SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were ShaneM, [IPcaller], Ralph, Steven, +0208761aaaa, markbirbeck
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rrsagent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/29-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph
16:07:57 [Steven]
Mark?
16:08:08 [Steven]
Shane, he's on Skype apparently
16:08:14 [ShaneM]
ahh ok
16:08:25 [ShaneM]
I need him for that impl report
16:09:26 [Ralph]
i/Ralph: in SWD WG meeting/Topic: CR Transition Scheduling
16:09:29 [Ralph]
rrsagent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/05/29-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph
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ShaneM has left #rdfa
16:09:39 [Ralph]
zakim, bye
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Zakim has left #rdfa
16:10:27 [Ralph]
rrsagent, bye
16:10:27 [RRSAgent]
I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/29-rdfa-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: Ben followup with Fabien on getting his RDFa GRDDL transform transferred to W3C [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/29-rdfa-irc#T15-08-24
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ACTION: Manu to reach out to Slashdot and attempt to get RDFa integrated into Slashdot. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action10] [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/29-rdfa-irc#T15-08-34
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ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/29-rdfa-irc#T15-10-09
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ACTION: Michael to determine which useless-triples test cases to remove and which to add. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [4]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/29-rdfa-irc#T15-10-26
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ACTION: Shane draft a TAG response along the lines of "we will update the namespace document, both the prose and the machine-readable and all documents of type XHTML1 have RDF triples" [5]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/05/29-rdfa-irc#T15-30-44