IRC log of forms on 2008-04-23

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14:38:20 [RRSAgent]
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logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/04/23-forms-irc
14:38:28 [John_Boyer]
zakim, this will be forms
14:38:28 [Zakim]
ok, John_Boyer; I see HTML_Forms()10:45AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
14:38:37 [John_Boyer]
rrsagent, make log public
14:39:00 [John_Boyer]
Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Telecon
14:39:08 [John_Boyer]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0092.html
14:39:14 [John_Boyer]
John_Boyer has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0092.html
14:39:24 [John_Boyer]
Chair: John
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Scribe: Leigh
14:39:36 [John_Boyer]
scribenick: Leigh_Klotz
14:39:47 [John_Boyer]
Regrets: Charlie, Susan, Joern
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HTML_Forms()10:45AM has now started
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+John_Boyer
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zakim, code?
14:45:11 [Zakim]
the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), nick
14:45:18 [unl]
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zakim, code?
14:45:51 [Zakim]
the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), unl
14:45:54 [Zakim]
+Nick_van_den_Bleeken
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-Nick_van_den_Bleeken
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+Nick_van_den_Bleeken
14:45:58 [nick]
zakim, mute me
14:45:58 [Zakim]
Nick_van_den_Bleeken should now be muted
14:46:04 [nick]
ack me
14:46:25 [Zakim]
+unl
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+wellsk
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14:47:27 [unl]
zakim, mute me
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unl should now be muted
14:47:36 [Zakim]
+??P7
14:47:47 [ebruchez]
zakim, ??P7 is ebruchez
14:47:47 [Zakim]
+ebruchez; got it
14:48:21 [nick]
zakim, mute me
14:48:21 [Zakim]
Nick_van_den_Bleeken should now be muted
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14:50:29 [John_Boyer]
Regrets +Rafael
14:50:48 [John_Boyer]
Steven, is the above how to add to regrets?
14:50:59 [Steven]
yes
14:51:08 [Steven]
zakim, dial steven-617
14:51:08 [Zakim]
ok, Steven; the call is being made
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+Steven
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+Leigh_Klotz
14:51:26 [Steven]
rrsagent, make minutes
14:51:26 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/23-forms-minutes.html Steven
14:51:28 [John_Boyer]
Regrets +MarkB
14:51:49 [Steven]
rrsagent, make logs public
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-Leigh_Klotz
14:53:28 [Roger]
zakim, code?
14:53:28 [Zakim]
the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Roger
14:54:02 [Zakim]
+Leigh_Klotz
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+??P1
14:54:28 [Roger]
zakim, ??P1 is Roger
14:54:29 [Zakim]
+Roger; got it
14:54:34 [Roger]
zakim, mute me
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Roger should now be muted
15:02:14 [nick]
I am available so I can try
15:03:16 [wellsk]
zakim, who is here?
15:03:16 [Zakim]
On the phone I see John_Boyer, Nick_van_den_Bleeken (muted), unl (muted), wellsk, ebruchez, Steven, Leigh_Klotz, Roger (muted)
15:03:18 [Zakim]
On IRC I see Roger, klotz, ebruchez, unl, nick, wellsk, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, Steven, trackbot-ng
15:07:21 [nick]
I will send an e-mail about some of the XForms 1.2 action items so I can start writing spec text
15:07:37 [nick]
but some of them are related to the stuff we are talking about now
15:08:31 [klotz]
ACTION: John Boye to address Typo in xforms-submit-done http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0088.html
15:08:31 [trackbot-ng]
Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
15:08:31 [trackbot-ng]
Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
15:08:57 [nick]
ack me
15:09:06 [Steven]
zakim, who is noisy?
15:09:18 [Zakim]
Steven, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: John_Boyer (44%)
15:14:47 [John_Boyer]
http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#expr-dependencies
15:15:18 [John_Boyer]
http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath#NT-NodeTest
15:15:39 [John_Boyer]
http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath#NT-Step
15:21:08 [Steven]
link to example?
15:21:29 [John_Boyer]
http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#expr-dependencies
15:25:54 [nick]
minutes madrid: http://www.w3.org/2007/09/12-forms-minutes.html, http://www.w3.org/2007/09/13-forms-minutes.html, http://www.w3.org/2007/09/14-forms-minutes.html
15:27:42 [klotz]
ACTION: Nick van den Bleeken to propose note to for http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#expr-dependencies to explain rationale for bind causing dependencies on node-test and predicate conditions.
15:27:42 [trackbot-ng]
Created ACTION-458 - Van den Bleeken to propose note to for http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#expr-dependencies to explain rationale for bind causing dependencies on node-test and predicate conditions. [on Nick Van Den Bleeken - due 2008-04-30].
15:40:07 [John_Boyer]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0069.html
15:43:18 [nick]
I more like to write in-line as :
15:43:18 [nick]
<submit resource="some URL">
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<label>Submit Timecard</label>
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</submit>
15:44:18 [nick]
just allow the UI to override the submission attributes on the submit and send element, this allows submissions to different places
15:44:50 [nick]
the form tag only supports submission to one place, without using javascript
15:45:50 [Steven]
I don't see the need for wrapping controls quite honestly
15:46:40 [Steven]
Yes, a mashup or similar
15:54:24 [wellsk]
zakim, mute me
15:54:24 [Zakim]
wellsk should now be muted
15:54:43 [nick]
zakim, who is making noise
15:54:43 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'who is making noise', nick
15:55:03 [nick]
zakim, mute me
15:55:03 [Zakim]
Nick_van_den_Bleeken should now be muted
15:55:12 [Steven]
zakim, who is noisy?
15:55:25 [Zakim]
Steven, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: John_Boyer (92%), ebruchez (96%)
15:55:29 [nick]
zakim, who is noisy?
15:55:40 [Steven]
I think John causes the echo
15:55:45 [Zakim]
nick, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Leigh_Klotz (8%), John_Boyer (58%), ebruchez (9%)
15:57:24 [nick]
ack, me
15:57:29 [nick]
ack me
15:59:51 [wellsk]
[me] is anyone else having telephony noise, I am getting a lot echoes and static
16:00:28 [Roger]
yes
16:04:24 [Zakim]
-unl
16:13:54 [Steven]
zakim, remind me in 2 to leave
16:13:54 [Zakim]
ok, Steven
16:15:54 [Zakim]
Steven, you asked to be reminded at this time to leave
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-Steven
16:19:51 [nick]
bye
16:19:57 [Zakim]
-ebruchez
16:19:57 [Roger]
bye
16:19:58 [Zakim]
-Nick_van_den_Bleeken
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-John_Boyer
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-wellsk
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-Leigh_Klotz
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-Roger
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HTML_Forms()10:45AM has ended
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Attendees were John_Boyer, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, unl, wellsk, ebruchez, Steven, Leigh_Klotz, Roger
16:21:52 [klotz]
rrsagent, make minutes
16:21:52 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/23-forms-minutes.html klotz
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