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14:38:28 <John_Boyer> zakim, this will be forms
14:38:28 <Zakim> ok, John_Boyer; I see HTML_Forms()10:45AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
14:38:37 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, make log public
14:39:00 <John_Boyer> Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Telecon
14:39:08 <John_Boyer> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0092.html
14:39:14 <John_Boyer> John_Boyer has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0092.html
14:39:24 <John_Boyer> Chair: John
14:39:26 <John_Boyer> Scribe: Leigh
14:39:36 <John_Boyer> scribenick: Leigh_Klotz
14:39:47 <John_Boyer> Regrets: Charlie, Susan, Joern
14:41:18 <Zakim> HTML_Forms()10:45AM has now started
14:41:20 <Zakim> +John_Boyer
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14:45:11 <nick> zakim, code?
14:45:11 <Zakim> the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), nick
14:45:18 <unl> unl has joined #forms
14:45:51 <unl> zakim, code?
14:45:51 <Zakim> the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), unl
14:45:54 <Zakim> +Nick_van_den_Bleeken
14:45:55 <Zakim> -Nick_van_den_Bleeken
14:45:55 <Zakim> +Nick_van_den_Bleeken
14:45:58 <nick> zakim, mute me
14:45:58 <Zakim> Nick_van_den_Bleeken should now be muted
14:46:04 <nick> ack me
14:46:25 <Zakim> +unl
14:47:04 <Zakim> +wellsk
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14:47:27 <unl> zakim, mute me
14:47:27 <Zakim> unl should now be muted
14:47:36 <Zakim> +??P7
14:47:47 <ebruchez> zakim, ??P7 is ebruchez
14:47:47 <Zakim> +ebruchez; got it
14:48:21 <nick> zakim, mute me
14:48:21 <Zakim> Nick_van_den_Bleeken should now be muted
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14:50:29 <John_Boyer> Regrets +Rafael
14:50:48 <John_Boyer> Steven, is the above how to add to regrets?
14:50:59 <Steven> yes
14:51:08 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
14:51:08 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
14:51:10 <Zakim> +Steven
14:51:19 <Zakim> +Leigh_Klotz
14:51:26 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
14:51:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/23-forms-minutes.html Steven
14:51:28 <John_Boyer> Regrets +MarkB
14:51:49 <Steven> rrsagent, make logs public
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14:53:19 <Zakim> -Leigh_Klotz
14:53:28 <Roger> zakim, code?
14:53:28 <Zakim> the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Roger
14:54:02 <Zakim> +Leigh_Klotz
14:54:22 <Zakim> +??P1
14:54:28 <Roger> zakim, ??P1 is Roger
14:54:29 <Zakim> +Roger; got it
14:54:34 <Roger> zakim, mute me
14:54:34 <Zakim> Roger should now be muted
15:02:14 <nick> I am available so I can try
15:03:16 <wellsk> zakim, who is here?
15:03:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see John_Boyer, Nick_van_den_Bleeken (muted), unl (muted), wellsk, ebruchez, Steven, Leigh_Klotz, Roger (muted)
15:03:18 <Zakim> On IRC I see Roger, klotz, ebruchez, unl, nick, wellsk, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, Steven, trackbot-ng
15:07:21 <nick> I will send an e-mail about some of the XForms 1.2 action items so I can start writing spec text
15:07:37 <nick> but some of them are related to the stuff we are talking about now
15:08:31 <klotz> ACTION: John Boye to address  Typo in xforms-submit-done http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0088.html
15:08:31 <trackbot-ng> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
15:08:31 <trackbot-ng> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
15:08:57 <nick> ack me
15:09:06 <Steven> zakim, who is noisy?
15:09:18 <Zakim> Steven, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: John_Boyer (44%)
15:14:47 <John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#expr-dependencies
15:15:18 <John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath#NT-NodeTest
15:15:39 <John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath#NT-Step
15:21:08 <Steven> link to example?
15:21:29 <John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#expr-dependencies
15:25:54 <nick> minutes madrid: http://www.w3.org/2007/09/12-forms-minutes.html, http://www.w3.org/2007/09/13-forms-minutes.html, http://www.w3.org/2007/09/14-forms-minutes.html
15:27:42 <klotz> ACTION: Nick van den Bleeken to propose note to for  http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#expr-dependencies to explain rationale for bind causing dependencies on node-test and predicate conditions.
15:27:42 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-458 - Van den Bleeken to propose note to for  http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#expr-dependencies to explain rationale for bind causing dependencies on node-test and predicate conditions. [on Nick Van Den Bleeken - due 2008-04-30].
15:40:07 <John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Apr/0069.html
15:43:18 <nick> I more like to write in-line as : 
15:43:18 <nick> <submit resource="some URL">
15:43:18 <nick>   <label>Submit Timecard</label> 
15:43:18 <nick> </submit> 
15:44:18 <nick> just allow the UI to override the submission attributes on the submit and send element, this allows submissions to different places
15:44:50 <nick> the form tag only supports submission to one place, without using javascript
15:45:50 <Steven> I don't see the need for wrapping controls quite honestly
15:46:40 <Steven> Yes, a mashup or similar
15:54:24 <wellsk> zakim, mute me
15:54:24 <Zakim> wellsk should now be muted
15:54:43 <nick> zakim, who is making noise
15:54:43 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is making noise', nick
15:55:03 <nick> zakim, mute me
15:55:03 <Zakim> Nick_van_den_Bleeken should now be muted
15:55:12 <Steven> zakim, who is noisy?
15:55:25 <Zakim> Steven, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: John_Boyer (92%), ebruchez (96%)
15:55:29 <nick> zakim, who is noisy?
15:55:40 <Steven> I think John causes the echo
15:55:45 <Zakim> nick, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Leigh_Klotz (8%), John_Boyer (58%), ebruchez (9%)
15:57:24 <nick> ack, me
15:57:29 <nick> ack me
15:59:51 <wellsk> [me] is anyone else having telephony noise, I am getting a lot echoes and static
16:00:28 <Roger> yes
16:04:24 <Zakim> -unl
16:13:54 <Steven> zakim, remind me in 2 to leave
16:13:54 <Zakim> ok, Steven
16:15:54 <Zakim> Steven, you asked to be reminded at this time to leave
16:16:08 <Zakim> -Steven
16:19:51 <nick> bye 
16:19:57 <Zakim> -ebruchez
16:19:57 <Roger> bye
16:19:58 <Zakim> -Nick_van_den_Bleeken
16:19:58 <Zakim> -John_Boyer
16:19:59 <Zakim> -wellsk
16:19:59 <Zakim> -Leigh_Klotz
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16:20:19 <Zakim> -Roger
16:20:21 <Zakim> HTML_Forms()10:45AM has ended
16:20:22 <Zakim> Attendees were John_Boyer, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, unl, wellsk, ebruchez, Steven, Leigh_Klotz, Roger
16:21:52 <klotz> rrsagent, make minutes
16:21:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/23-forms-minutes.html klotz
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