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11:26:38 <renato> zakim, list
11:26:38 <Zakim> I see W3C_SC(JSA08)7:00AM active and no others scheduled to start in the next 15 minutes
11:27:14 <renato> zakim, this will be "INC_EIIF XG"
11:27:14 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, renato
11:27:29 <renato> zakim, this will be eiif
11:27:29 <Zakim> ok, renato; I see INC_EIIF XG()8:00AM scheduled to start in 33 minutes
11:53:35 <renato> zakim, what conference is this?
11:53:35 <Zakim> this will be INC_EIIF XG()8:00AM conference code 3443, renato
11:55:42 <Zakim> INC_EIIF XG()8:00AM has now started
11:55:51 <Zakim> + +643383aaaa
11:57:29 <Zakim> +??P6
11:58:47 <Zakim> +??P7
11:59:28 <Zakim> +Olle
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12:00:53 <Zakim> + +1.301.560.aabb
12:02:43 <Zakim> + +1.425.392.aacc
12:07:11 <Zakim> +??P1
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12:12:40 <renato> need to collect use cases
12:13:18 <renato> evaluate against standards
12:14:01 <renato> what standards are more "popular" or relevant or pervasive
12:15:15 <renato> how do we connect to the user communities
12:16:33 <renato> do we have am EM user model
12:17:32 <renato> what are the challenges in the EM field
12:19:01 <renato> drill down to more detail
12:22:34 <renato> can we learn from other XGs to make our work easier
12:23:09 <renato> action: find out about about the geospatial XG
12:23:20 <renato> are we too ambious
12:24:35 <renato> scope our work and make it clear 
12:25:01 <renato> what is the "low hanging fruit"
12:25:11 <renato> use cases can channel our effort
12:25:50 <renato> opportunity to expose good data definitions
12:26:48 <renato> we are a doing a feasibility - not solving the whole problem
12:29:04 <renato> we need time to come to common understandings
12:29:27 <renato> tricky to pick the right use cases
12:29:33 <renato> mapped out in advance
12:33:48 <renato> need to define a purpose for the use case - what do we want to get out of them
12:36:31 <renato> diff in term between EM mgrs and hazard scientists
12:38:25 <renato> fundamental issues with terminology and language across sectors
12:39:16 <renato> need the operational scenarios
12:40:04 <renato> what is common, which is different
12:40:12 <renato> information needs are common
12:40:24 <renato> 4 scenarios covering 4 disciplines
12:41:15 <renato> diff between information and terminology
12:42:11 <renato> UC: evacuation scenario
12:42:34 <renato> damage assessment, hazard tracking
12:42:54 <renato> impact on people
12:43:50 <renato> a range of scenarios - small to large scale
12:44:12 <renato> auto accident up to major disaster
12:45:16 <renato> start simple and scale up
12:46:21 <Percivall> United Nations Scenarios: http://ochaonline2.un.org/Default.aspx?tabid=8906
12:46:37 <renato> different language (spoken/written) increases the problems
12:47:05 <Percivall> USA National level scenarios: http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/nationalsecurity/earlywarning/NationalPlanningScenariosApril2005.pdf
12:47:59 <Percivall> Need to identify scenario at province/state level as well as single person emergency scenario
12:50:35 <renato> who are the actors/groups in each UC to get their perspective
12:52:05 <renato> how to process the UC
12:52:12 <renato> UC uncover the domain
12:52:42 <renato> UC analysis - walkthrough for common info/data elements
12:52:46 <Percivall> Use cases for single person response: NENA Technical Requirements Document (TRD) for Location Information to Support IP-Based Emergency Services http://www.nena.org/media/File/08-752_20061221.pdf
12:54:32 <renato> go thru one or two use cases
12:54:40 <renato> test them during the rest of the day
12:55:36 <renato> action: collect use cases - put on wiki
12:55:48 <Percivall> Ideas for revised F2F agenda: 1. introductions, 2. use cases identification (1 hour), 3. Framework (deliverable planning), 4. plan of work
12:56:07 <Percivall> 1 hour may be too short for use cases
12:57:20 <Percivall> Between use cases and framework, insert discussion of relevant standards
12:58:24 <Percivall> oops, hit a button inadvertently
13:12:35 <renato> meeting logistics
13:13:58 <renato> use w3c teleconf
13:16:53 <renato> more regular teleconfernces
13:18:34 <renato> record the workshop (audio)
13:20:52 <Zakim> - +1.425.392.aacc
13:20:55 <Zakim> -??P1
13:20:56 <Zakim> - +643383aaaa
13:20:56 <Zakim> -??P6
13:20:57 <Zakim> -Olle
13:20:57 <Zakim> - +1.301.560.aabb
13:20:59 <Zakim> INC_EIIF XG()8:00AM has ended
13:21:00 <Zakim> Attendees were +643383aaaa, Olle, +1.301.560.aabb, +1.425.392.aacc
13:21:20 <renato> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:21:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/11-eiif-minutes.html renato
13:21:43 <renato> rrsagent, make log public
13:22:13 <renato> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:22:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/11-eiif-minutes.html renato
13:23:23 <renato> zakim, bye
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13:23:57 <renato> rrsagent. make log public
13:24:06 <renato> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:24:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/11-eiif-minutes.html renato
13:25:54 <renato> bye