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12:08:23 <trackbot-ng> RRSAgent, make logs public
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12:08:25 <trackbot-ng> Zakim, this will be XMLSEC
12:08:25 <Zakim> ok, trackbot-ng; I see T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM scheduled to start in 52 minutes
12:08:26 <trackbot-ng> Meeting: XML Security Specifications Maintenance Working Group Teleconference
12:08:26 <trackbot-ng> Date: 18 March 2008
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12:46:42 <tlr> dunno, I don't use CGI IRC
12:46:44 <tlr> which one are you using?
12:47:55 <fjh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Mar/0005.html
12:47:59 <fjh> agenda?
12:48:31 <fjh> Chair: Frederick Hirsch
12:48:39 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
12:48:39 <Zakim> T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has not yet started, fjh
12:48:40 <Zakim> On IRC I see fjh, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
12:49:29 <fjh> zakim, agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Mar/0005.html
12:49:29 <Zakim> I don't understand you, fjh
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12:54:15 <Zakim> T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has now started
12:54:19 <Zakim> T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has ended
12:54:20 <Zakim> Attendees were 
12:54:42 <tlr> now, that was the shortest call ever
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12:56:34 <Zakim> T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has now started
12:56:41 <Zakim> +Frederick_Hirsch
12:57:03 <tlr> zakim, call thomas-781
12:57:03 <Zakim> ok, tlr; the call is being made
12:57:04 <Zakim> +Thomas
12:57:38 <pdatta> yes
12:57:38 <Zakim> + +1.978.244.aaaa
12:57:40 <sean> sean has joined #xmlsec
12:58:02 <tlr> zakim, aaaa is jwray
12:58:02 <Zakim> +jwray; got it
12:58:03 <jwray> zakim, aaaa is jwray
12:58:04 <Zakim> sorry, jwray, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
12:58:31 <rdmiller> rdmiller has joined #xmlsec
12:59:06 <fjh> Scribe: Pratik Datta
12:59:15 <tlr> zakim, I am thomas
12:59:15 <Zakim> ok, tlr, I now associate you with Thomas
12:59:17 <tlr> zakim, mute me
12:59:17 <Zakim> Thomas should now be muted
12:59:29 <fjh> zakim, fjh is Frederick_Hirsch
12:59:29 <Zakim> sorry, fjh, I do not recognize a party named 'fjh'
12:59:35 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
12:59:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see Frederick_Hirsch, Thomas (muted), jwray
12:59:36 <Zakim> On IRC I see rdmiller, sean, pdatta, jwray, fjh, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
12:59:41 <fjh> zakim, Frederick_Hirsch is fjh
12:59:41 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
12:59:47 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
12:59:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, Thomas (muted), jwray
12:59:48 <Zakim> On IRC I see rdmiller, sean, pdatta, jwray, fjh, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
13:00:01 <Zakim> + +1.650.506.aabb
13:00:14 <Zakim> + +1.617.876.aacc
13:00:19 <Zakim> + +1.443.695.aadd
13:00:38 <fjh> zakim, aabb is pdatta
13:00:38 <Zakim> +pdatta; got it
13:00:48 <fjh> zakim, aacc is sean
13:00:48 <Zakim> +sean; got it
13:00:48 <tlr> Kudos to Pratik for getting up that early...
13:01:05 <fjh> zakim, aadd is rdmiller
13:01:05 <Zakim> +rdmiller; got it
13:01:10 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
13:01:11 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, Thomas (muted), jwray, pdatta, sean, rdmiller
13:01:12 <Zakim> On IRC I see rdmiller, sean, pdatta, jwray, fjh, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng
13:02:03 <fjh> Agenda:  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Mar/0005.html
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13:02:07 <rdmiller> zakim, mute me
13:02:07 <Zakim> rdmiller should now be muted
13:02:23 <Zakim> + +1.512.401.aaee
13:02:38 <tlr> zakim, aaee is brich
13:02:38 <Zakim> +brich; got it
13:02:51 <brich> brich has joined #xmlsec
13:03:09 <Zakim> +Ed_Simon
13:03:28 <tlr> zakim, who is on the phone?
13:03:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, Thomas (muted), jwray, pdatta, sean, rdmiller (muted), brich, Ed_Simon
13:03:45 <Zakim> +Hal_Lockhart
13:04:39 <Zakim> + +1.408.907.aaff
13:04:47 <tlr> zakim, aaff is shivaram
13:04:47 <Zakim> +shivaram; got it
13:04:49 <fjh> Topic: Administrative
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13:04:55 <fjh> charter - http://www.w3.org/2008/02/xmlsec-charter.html
13:05:05 <tlr> no more changes, please! ;-)
13:05:09 <tlr> zakim, unmute me
13:05:09 <Zakim> Thomas should no longer be muted
13:05:11 <pdatta> rdmiller is going to scribe next week
13:05:42 <hal> hal has joined #xmlsec
13:05:45 <pdatta> tlr, charter should get out any day
13:06:11 <tlr> s/tlr, charter should get out any day/tlr: charter should get out really soon now/
13:06:39 <pdatta> fjh, plenary in october
13:06:46 <tlr> s/fjh,/fjh:/
13:06:48 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Feb/0007.html
13:07:00 <pdatta> ... our group won't exit
13:07:37 <pdatta> --- questionaire when will be the follow up group like to meet
13:07:38 <PHB> PHB has joined #xmlsec
13:07:58 <PHB> zakim, code?
13:07:58 <Zakim> the conference code is 965732 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), PHB
13:08:13 <tlr> http://www.flickr.com/photos/roessler/107144618/
13:08:55 <Zakim> +PHB
13:09:14 <pdatta> .. WSC may be a conflict, WAF may be too
13:09:23 <shivaram> zakim, mute me
13:09:23 <Zakim> shivaram should now be muted
13:09:51 <pdatta> fjh: Monday and Tuesday should be ok
13:10:04 <pdatta> TOPIC: review WAF document
13:10:06 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Mar/0001.html
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13:11:21 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Mar/0002.html
13:11:39 <pdatta> hal: will send comments to waf about v3 certs
13:13:10 <pdatta> fjh: will send messsage to WS-I BSP
13:13:37 <pdatta> hal: send a message to Paul at first
13:14:08 <fjh> minutes http://www.w3.org/2008/02/26-xmlsec-minutes.html
13:14:08 <pdatta> ... then send a message to the list after we go public
13:14:51 <pdatta> RESOLUTION: meeting minutes from 26 Feb approved
13:15:09 <pdatta> TOPIC: XML Signature 2nd edition
13:16:10 <pdatta> TOPIC: FIPS references
13:16:12 <tlr> actually, the link checker noticed
13:16:31 <tlr> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Mar/0003.html
13:16:41 <tlr> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2008Mar/0000.html
13:16:51 <tlr> 0003.html is Oracle's response, 0000.html is Frederick's message.
13:18:21 <pdatta> fjh: one document added DSA algorithm, second added more hash algorithms
13:18:34 <pdatta> s/added/added to/
13:19:06 <tlr> brich: we don't see any isuse with changing the reference
13:19:08 <tlr> fjh: on list?
13:19:11 <tlr> brich: think I did that
13:21:44 <tlr> fjh: sean, anything from you?
13:21:53 <tlr> sean: double-checking internally, should have answer later today
13:22:17 <pdatta> hal: don't see any changes in the last eight years
13:22:53 <pdatta> tlr: this is a relatively old change
13:23:17 <pdatta> hal: last change is  Oct 5th 2001
13:24:01 <pdatta> hal: this should not be any issue to somebody with their own crypto toolkit or buying a crypto toolkit
13:24:15 <pdatta> hal: in general they are going to phase out SHA1
13:26:00 <pdatta> sean: would know by end of today
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13:27:03 <tlr> PROPOSED: go ahead with change unless objections by e-mail at close of business Eastern tomorrow (19 March)
13:27:33 <tlr> RESOLUTION: Accept FIPS reference changes unless objections by e-mail at close of business Eastern tomorrow (10 March)
13:28:04 <pdatta> s/10 March/19 March/
13:29:32 <pdatta> TOPIC: testcase document
13:29:59 <pdatta> fjh: action item with tlr
13:31:27 <shivaram> zakim, unmute me
13:31:27 <Zakim> shivaram should no longer be muted
13:32:45 <shivaram> zakim, mute me
13:32:45 <Zakim> shivaram should now be muted
13:32:54 <pdatta> TOPIC: best practices
13:33:06 <pdatta> hal: this week will post a few notes
13:33:25 <tlr> no process problem with that
13:34:36 <pdatta> fjh: actions 147 and 148 are still open
13:34:48 <EdS> Ed: Please keep me updated re the EXI work when you hear back from JCC.
13:35:18 <Zakim> -Hal_Lockhart
13:35:19 <Zakim> -sean
13:35:23 <Zakim> -shivaram
13:35:24 <Zakim> -brich
13:35:26 <Zakim> -Ed_Simon
13:35:27 <Zakim> -PHB
13:35:27 <Zakim> -rdmiller
13:35:36 <tlr> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:35:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/03/18-xmlsec-minutes.html tlr
13:35:37 <Zakim> -jwray
13:35:47 <tlr> rrsagent, make record public
13:36:31 <tlr> Present: HalLockhart, RobMiller, SeanMullan, ShivaramMysore, BruceRich, EdSimon, PHallamBaker, PratikDatta, FrederickHirsch, ThomasRoessler
13:36:37 <tlr> Present+ JohnWray
13:36:40 <tlr> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:36:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/03/18-xmlsec-minutes.html tlr
13:40:05 <Zakim> -pdatta
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13:42:32 <Zakim> -fjh
13:42:34 <Zakim> T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has ended
13:42:36 <Zakim> Attendees were Thomas, +1.978.244.aaaa, jwray, fjh, +1.650.506.aabb, +1.617.876.aacc, +1.443.695.aadd, pdatta, sean, rdmiller, +1.512.401.aaee, brich, Ed_Simon, Hal_Lockhart,
13:42:38 <Zakim> ... +1.408.907.aaff, shivaram, PHB
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