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14:49:29 <marc> zakim, this will be INC_EMOXG
14:49:29 <Zakim> ok, marc; I see INC_EMOXG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 11 minutes
14:51:00 <marc> agenda+ Review of the ranked requirements
14:51:11 <marc> agenda+ Discussion of sub-classing in XML, RDF, OWL (ongoing)
14:51:33 <marc> agenda+ Initial thoughts on combining EmotionML with existing markup languages such as EMMA, SMIL etc.
14:51:45 <marc> agenda+ Date of next meeting
14:51:49 <marc> agenda?
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14:53:57 <bschulle> hi.
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14:54:47 <marc> hi björn!
14:55:00 <bjoern> hi marc (again... had a strange nick...)
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14:56:04 <Zakim> INC_EMOXG()10:00AM has now started
14:56:11 <Zakim> + +049892892aaaa
14:56:34 <bjoern> Zakim, I am aaaa
14:56:34 <Zakim> +bjoern; got it
14:56:43 <Zakim> +??P1
14:56:53 <Christian> Christian has joined #emotion
14:56:55 <marc> zakim, I am ??P1
14:56:55 <Zakim> +marc; got it
14:58:29 <marc> Scribe instructions: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/emotion/group/IRC-Cheat-Sheet.html
14:58:56 <Zakim> +??P4
14:59:28 <marc> zakim, P4 is enrico
14:59:28 <Zakim> sorry, marc, I do not recognize a party named 'P4'
14:59:34 <marc> zakim, enrico is P4
14:59:34 <Zakim> sorry, marc, I do not recognize a party named 'enrico'
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14:59:56 <marc> zakim, ??P4 is Enrico
14:59:56 <Zakim> +Enrico; got it
15:00:23 <felix> felix has joined #emotion
15:00:24 <mrseo> hi, mrseo is Eva
15:00:33 <marc> Hi Eva!
15:00:39 <mrseo> :) Hi 
15:00:42 <marc> Hi Christian!
15:00:48 <marc> Can you join us on the phone?
15:00:59 <bjoern> Scribe: bjoern
15:01:07 <Zakim> + +49.381.402.aabb
15:01:13 <mrseo> yeah...i have ti install colloquy
15:01:31 <marc> zakim, aabb is Christian
15:01:31 <Zakim> +Christian; got it
15:01:33 <bjoern> ScribeNick: bjoern
15:01:54 <bjoern> Scribe: Bjoern Schuller
15:02:17 <bjoern> Chair: Marc Schroeder
15:02:40 <Christian> its me again
15:02:41 <Zakim> + +049303aacc
15:03:07 <marc> zakim, aacc is Felix
15:03:07 <Zakim> +Felix; got it
15:03:18 <Zakim> + +95177aadd
15:03:26 <marc> zakim, who is here?
15:03:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see bjoern, marc, Enrico, Christian, Felix, +95177aadd
15:03:27 <Zakim> On IRC I see felix, mrseo, Christian, enrico, bjoern, RRSAgent, Zakim, marc, trackbot-ng
15:03:29 <bjoern> Meeting: EMOXG phone meeting 28 February 2008
15:03:32 <marc> zakim, aadd is Catherine
15:03:32 <Zakim> +Catherine; got it
15:04:36 <Zakim> +??P29
15:04:38 <Dylan> Dylan has joined #emotion
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15:05:01 <marc> zakim, ??P29 is Jianhua
15:05:01 <Zakim> +Jianhua; got it
15:05:22 <bjoern> Regrets: Ian, Myriam, Bill
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15:05:58 <Zakim> +??P27
15:06:19 <Dylan> Hi everyone
15:06:51 <bjoern> Present: Christian, Dylan, Bjoern, Christian, Enrico, Eva, Felix, Marc, Jianhua
15:06:51 <marc> zakim, ??P27 is Dylan
15:06:51 <Zakim> +Dylan; got it
15:07:19 <marc> next item
15:07:50 <marc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-emotion/2008Feb/0002.html
15:07:51 <Zakim> +??P33
15:08:27 <Zakim> + +03494301aaee
15:08:42 <marc> zakim, ??P33 is eva
15:08:42 <Zakim> +eva; got it
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15:09:16 <marc> zakim, aaee is Nestor_Idoia
15:09:16 <Zakim> +Nestor_Idoia; got it
15:10:05 <marc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-emotion/2008Feb/0002.html
15:10:33 <bjoern> Marc: everybody clear on history of list of requirements? (explains...)
15:14:15 <bjoern> Marc: should first and second priority items be shifted among groups or kept?
15:15:07 <bjoern> Marc: Appraisals might be shifted to core description.
15:16:36 <bjoern> Dylan: agrees that appraisals should be shifted.
15:17:18 <eva> yet
15:17:40 <bjoern> Eva: asks for reconsideration within 1 week.
15:18:04 <bjoern> Marc: let's give everybody 1 week for reconsideration.
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15:22:10 <bjoern> Bjoern: would like to safe regulation.
15:22:30 <bjoern> Marc: reminds that this ranking is only helping us but not mandatory.
15:24:20 <bjoern> Marc: considers No. 11 as difficult to accomplish example (semantics of links to the rest of the world)
15:25:39 <bjoern> Enrico: let's have a borderline group (e.g. appraisal, regulation)
15:26:46 <bjoern> Eva: stresses need of regulation.
15:28:18 <eva> it was not Eva :)
15:28:33 <bjoern> appologizes... who was it?
15:29:03 <enrico> maybe Catherine?
15:29:45 <bjoern> probably. thank you.
15:30:32 <bjoern> Bjoern: corrects that Catherine and not Eva stresses need of regulation.
15:32:29 <bjoern> Marc: if we do not have anybody vote against appraisal: include it.
15:33:08 <bjoern> Marc: would not include regulation due to added complexity.
15:35:09 <Zakim> -Jianhua
15:37:36 <Zakim> +??P13
15:38:48 <bjoern> Marc: there is a good reason to include regulation but for the moment we will keep it in the second group.
15:39:34 <bjoern> Bjoern: agrees to keep regulation less prioritized.
15:40:34 <bjoern> Christian: Global Metadata is all in group two.
15:40:46 <Zakim> -eva
15:40:54 <bjoern> Marc: let's have one "blank" Global Metadata in the first part of the list.
15:41:01 <bjoern> Christian: agrees.
15:41:49 <bjoern> ACTION: Dylan to send around updated requirement list - due in one week.
15:41:50 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-14 - send around updated requirement list [on Dylan Evans - due 2008-02-28].
15:42:08 <marc> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/emotion/
15:42:32 <marc> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/emotion/charter-20071129#deliverables
15:42:33 <bjoern> ACTION- 14
15:43:12 <bjoern> ACTION: Dylan to send around updated requirement list - due 2008-03-06
15:43:12 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-15 - send around updated requirement list [on Dylan Evans - due 2008-03-06].
15:48:21 <bjoern> ACTION: Felix to organize revised requirements documents and ensure W3C conformity - due 2008-03-15
15:48:21 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-16 - organize revised requirements documents and ensure W3C conformity [on Felix Burkhardt - due 2008-03-15].
15:49:58 <Zakim> +??P39
15:51:00 <marc> next item
15:53:24 <bjoern> Marc: we will shift this item due to absence of the experts on this.
15:53:29 <marc> next item
15:55:56 <bjoern> Christian: favours XML in order not to force people to learn new MLs.
15:56:29 <bjoern> Marc: the question how easily these could be combined should be answered.
15:57:02 <bjoern> Marc: we will have to leave it open due to lack of volunteers on this one.
15:57:07 <marc> next item
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15:58:27 <mrseo> agree
15:58:41 <Zakim> -Christian
15:59:58 <mrseo> agree
16:00:04 <bjoern> agrees...
16:00:14 <enrico> ok for me
16:00:34 <mrseo> yeah
16:01:06 <bjoern> Marc: suggests to leave next meeting open and decide upon progress wrt syntax.
16:02:02 <bjoern> Marc: suggests to clarify details by email.
16:02:31 <mrseo> ok, thank tou
16:02:35 <mrseo> you
16:02:37 <mrseo> bye
16:02:38 <Zakim> -Felix
16:02:39 <Zakim> -Dylan
16:02:40 <Zakim> -Nestor_Idoia
16:02:40 <Zakim> -Catherine
16:02:42 <Zakim> -??P13
16:02:48 <Zakim> -Enrico
16:02:57 <marc> zakim, who is here?
16:02:57 <Zakim> On the phone I see bjoern, marc, ??P39
16:02:59 <Zakim> On IRC I see mrseo, enrico, jtao, cpeter, Dylan, felix, Christian, bjoern, RRSAgent, Zakim, marc, trackbot-ng
16:04:56 <bjoern> rrsagent, make logs public
16:05:21 <bjoern> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:05:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/28-emotion-minutes.html bjoern
16:07:42 <marc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-emotion/2008Feb/0002.html
16:07:53 <bjoern> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-emotion/2008Feb/0002.html
16:08:10 <bjoern> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:08:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/28-emotion-minutes.html bjoern
16:10:37 <Zakim> -bjoern
16:10:38 <Zakim> -marc
16:11:14 <marc> zakim, bye
16:11:14 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were +049892892aaaa, bjoern, marc, Enrico, +49.381.402.aabb, Christian, +049303aacc, Felix, +95177aadd, Catherine, Jianhua, Dylan,
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16:11:27 <marc> rrsagent, bye
16:11:27 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/28-emotion-actions.rdf :
16:11:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Dylan to send around updated requirement list - due in one week. [1]
16:11:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/28-emotion-irc#T15-41-49
16:11:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Dylan to send around updated requirement list - due 2008-03-06 [2]
16:11:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/28-emotion-irc#T15-43-12
16:11:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to organize revised requirements documents and ensure W3C conformity - due 2008-03-15 [3]
16:11:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/02/28-emotion-irc#T15-48-21