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20:34:34 <Ben> RRSAgent, make log world
20:34:40 <Ben> zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
20:34:40 <Zakim> ok, Ben; I see WAI_WCAG()3:00PM scheduled to start 34 minutes ago
20:34:47 <Ben> Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
20:34:55 <Ben> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2008JanMar/0050.html
20:35:01 <Ben> Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:35:06 <Ben> ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly
20:35:18 <Ben> Regrets: Sofia_Celic, Alex_Li, Roberto_Scano, Drew_LaHart
20:35:24 <Ben> agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates
20:35:42 <Ben> agenda+ Editorial Questions for 07 February 2008 <http://tinyurl.com/2ytzpw>
20:36:00 <Ben> agenda+ Miscellaneous Proposals for 07 Feb 2008 <http://tinyurl.com/2zmvgz>
20:36:17 <Ben> agenda+ Round 2 Miscellaneous Proposals for 07 Feb 2008 <http://tinyurl.com/24k386>
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20:58:40 <Zakim> +??P4
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20:59:44 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
20:59:45 <Zakim> Attendees were 
20:59:47 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started
20:59:54 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
21:00:06 <Zakim> +??P4
21:00:29 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
21:00:51 <Zakim> +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
21:01:15 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
21:01:22 <Zakim> +??P7
21:01:38 <Zakim> + +1.617.324.aaaa
21:01:51 <MichaelC> zakim, +1.617 is Michael_Cooper
21:01:51 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper; got it
21:01:58 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
21:02:09 <bengt> zakim, [IPcaller is Bengt_Farre
21:02:09 <Zakim> +Bengt_Farre; got it
21:02:14 <Christophe> Christophe has joined #wai-wcag
21:03:12 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P7 is Gregg_Vanderheiden
21:03:12 <Zakim> +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
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21:03:23 <MichaelC> zakim, ??p4 is Katie_Haritos-Shea
21:03:23 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea; got it
21:03:29 <rellero> rellero has joined #wai-wcag
21:03:34 <GreggVan> q?
21:04:22 <Zakim> +[IBM]
21:04:39 <MichaelC> zakim, IBM is Andi_Snow-Weaver
21:04:39 <Zakim> +Andi_Snow-Weaver; got it
21:04:58 <Zakim> +??P3
21:05:11 <rellero> zakim, ??3 is Roberto_Ellero
21:05:11 <Zakim> sorry, rellero, I do not recognize a party named '??3'
21:05:22 <rellero> zakim, ?3 is Roberto_Eller
21:05:22 <Zakim> sorry, rellero, I do not recognize a party named '?3'
21:05:41 <Loretta> Regrets: Alex, Sofia, Roberto Scano, Drew LaHart
21:05:44 <Zakim> +Christophe_Strobbe
21:05:47 <rellero> tx
21:06:23 <Zakim> + +0154558aabb - is perhaps Sean_Hayes
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21:06:37 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
21:07:00 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
21:07:12 <Andi> zakim, who is on the phone?
21:07:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see Katie_Haritos-Shea, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Michael_Cooper, Bengt_Farre, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Roberto_Ellero, Christophe_Strobbe, Sean_Hayes.a,
21:07:16 <Zakim> ... Bruce_Bailey
21:07:33 <Loretta> :-)
21:08:32 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
21:08:52 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
21:10:23 <MichaelC> zakim, take up item 1
21:10:23 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from Ben]
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21:10:31 <MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC
21:11:49 <Zakim> +??P13
21:12:07 <Makoto> zakim, ??P13 is Makoto_Ueki
21:12:07 <Zakim> +Makoto_Ueki; got it
21:12:23 <Loretta> q+
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21:13:31 <MichaelC> q+
21:13:37 <Loretta> ack q
21:13:41 <Loretta> ack l
21:13:44 <Andi> q+
21:13:50 <Loretta> ack m
21:14:06 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
21:15:00 <GreggVan> q?
21:15:05 <GreggVan> ack a
21:15:56 <GreggVan> ack k
21:16:55 <MichaelC> q+
21:17:10 <GreggVan> ack m
21:18:38 <MichaelC> zakim, next topic
21:18:38 <Zakim> I don't understand 'next topic', MichaelC
21:18:44 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
21:18:44 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Editorial Questions for 07 February 2008 <http://tinyurl.com/2ytzpw>" taken up [from Ben]
21:19:10 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: Accept the following as proposed from all three surveys: 2419, 2420, 2423, 2454, 2524, 2525, 2526, 2552, 2553, 2554, 2556, 2557, 2560, 2419, 2420, 2423, 2454, 2524, 2525, 2526, 2552, 2553, 2554, 2556, 2557, 2560, 2480, 2416, 2417, 2430, 2433, 2438, 2545, 2540, 2453, 2565, 2566, 2489, 2462, 2410, 2394, 2395, 2515, 2428, 2468, 2397, 2470, 2425, 2411, 2388, 2569 
21:20:18 <MichaelC> topic: Issue 2509 and 2511: awkward phrasing - Statement of partial conformance
21:20:45 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: accept with Cynthia's modifications
21:21:02 <MichaelC> topic: Issue 2572: Clarify what 'which is optional' applies to
21:22:42 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: accept with Christophe's modifications
21:22:58 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
21:22:58 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Miscellaneous Proposals for 07 Feb 2008 <http://tinyurl.com/2zmvgz>" taken up [from Ben]
21:23:08 <MichaelC> topic: Draft WCAG WG Charter
21:23:43 <Loretta> q+
21:23:44 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
21:23:58 <Loretta> ack g
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21:25:46 <Loretta> ack l
21:26:21 <MichaelC> q+
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21:26:35 <Loretta> ack c
21:26:41 <GreggVan> ack m
21:28:35 <Zakim> +??P2
21:29:00 <MichaelC> make note on TEITAC liaising that that's supposed to expire in 2008
21:29:06 <MichaelC> add liaison with access board
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21:30:52 <MichaelC> q+
21:32:21 <MichaelC> remove "and support of the document AFTER going to Recommendation" from intro
21:33:58 <Loretta> fine with me!
21:35:14 <MichaelC> remove nature of coordination with the groups with whom we coordinate
21:36:15 <MichaelC> add ETSI and CEN as external groups we coordinate with
21:37:12 <MichaelC> add to communication section that we also use online surveys to conduct work, and in weekly teleconferences
21:38:09 <Ben> zakim, who is on the phone?
21:38:09 <Zakim> On the phone I see Gregg_Vanderheiden, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Michael_Cooper, Bengt_Farre, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Roberto_Ellero, Christophe_Strobbe, Sean_Hayes.a,
21:38:12 <Zakim> ... Bruce_Bailey, Makoto_Ueki, Cynthia_Shelly, Tim_Boland, ??P2
21:39:16 <Ben> zakim, Gregg_Vanderheiden has Ben_Caldwell
21:39:16 <Zakim> +Ben_Caldwell; got it
21:40:38 <Zakim> + +1.617.584.aacc
21:40:58 <MichaelC> zakim, +1.617 is Andrew_Kirkpatrick
21:40:58 <Zakim> +Andrew_Kirkpatrick; got it
21:42:55 <GreggVan> q?
21:43:02 <MichaelC> q-
21:43:06 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
21:43:58 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
21:44:56 <GreggVan> ack g
21:48:25 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: send charter up for review with above notes integreated
21:48:37 <MichaelC> s/integreated/integrated
21:48:50 <MichaelC> topic: Issue 2436: Background images disappear with user-specific colors
21:51:31 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: accept as amended with Cynthia's edit to note, though genericize OS name
21:51:49 <MichaelC> Issue 2463: aligned on both left and right
21:56:30 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: accept as modified by Christophe
21:56:37 <MichaelC> topic: Issue 2464: line spacing
21:57:33 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: accept as modified by Bruce
21:57:43 <MichaelC> topic: Issue 2475: "well formed"
21:58:33 <Zakim> -??P2
22:00:54 <Loretta> Would suggest commas rather than parentheses
22:02:39 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: accept as modified by Bruce and Gregg
22:02:52 <MichaelC> topic: Issue 2512: Statement of partial conformance - immediately?
22:07:24 <Loretta> q+
22:08:21 <Ben> ack Bruce
22:08:24 <Andi> q+
22:09:20 <Loretta> ack l
22:12:22 <MichaelC> ack a
22:12:53 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: accept as modified by Andi, with "two business days" added to conformance
22:13:14 <MichaelC> topic: Issue 2517: blink vs flash
22:15:53 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: accept as modified by Gregg
22:16:02 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
22:16:02 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Round 2 Miscellaneous Proposals for 07 Feb 2008 <http://tinyurl.com/24k386>" taken up [from Ben]
22:16:24 <MichaelC> topic: Revision to SC 4.1.2
22:18:31 <Ben> q+ to suggest that the note isn't needed
22:18:40 <Andi> q+
22:20:56 <MichaelC> ack b
22:20:56 <Zakim> Ben, you wanted to suggest that the note isn't needed
22:20:58 <MichaelC> ack a
22:21:47 <Andi> q+
22:26:23 <Loretta> "Notification of any changes ?"
22:28:08 <Christophe> zakim, mute me
22:28:08 <Zakim> Christophe_Strobbe should now be muted
22:29:32 <Christophe> zakim, unmute me
22:29:32 <Zakim> Christophe_Strobbe should no longer be muted
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22:33:36 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: accept as amended
22:33:48 <MichaelC> topic: Issue 2433: SC 1.4.3 - Step backwards from WCAG 1.0?
22:36:03 <Zakim> -Andrew_Kirkpatrick
22:36:26 <Loretta> Could it go into the Mapping document?
22:37:34 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: accept as modified by Gregg
22:37:58 <MichaelC> topic: Issue 2476: Sufficient techniques seems to contradict other areas and principles.
22:39:19 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: accepted as amended by Ben
22:39:39 <MichaelC> Issue 2566: Quick Ref Introduction, second part, trim wording
22:39:52 <Loretta> :-(
22:40:10 <Loretta> I have been able to work around this (sometimes) by using explicit server names.
22:45:46 <Loretta> Try mojo.w3.org or kearny.w3.org
22:46:03 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: accept as proposed
22:46:18 <MichaelC> Issue 2395 and 2515: Essential Exception
22:46:55 <MichaelC> {was included in UC}
22:47:09 <MichaelC> topic: Issue 2437: Why the exception for proper names and technical terms?
22:49:12 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: accept as amended by Christophe
22:49:25 <MichaelC> topic: Issue 2403: unique link names?
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22:52:22 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea
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22:57:52 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: accept as amended
22:59:34 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow-Weaver
22:59:36 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
22:59:36 <Zakim> -Sean_Hayes.a
22:59:37 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
22:59:37 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
22:59:38 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
22:59:39 <Zakim> -Gregg_Vanderheiden
22:59:41 <Zakim> -Bengt_Farre
22:59:43 <Zakim> -Christophe_Strobbe
22:59:44 <Zakim> -Makoto_Ueki
22:59:46 <Zakim> -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
22:59:47 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
22:59:49 <Zakim> Attendees were Bruce_Bailey, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, +1.617.324.aaaa, Michael_Cooper, [IPcaller], Bengt_Farre, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Roberto_Ellero,
22:59:52 <Zakim> ... Christophe_Strobbe, +0154558aabb, Sean_Hayes, Makoto_Ueki, Cynthia_Shelly, Tim_Boland, Ben_Caldwell, +1.617.584.aacc, Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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23:15:43 <Ben> Zakim, bye
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23:15:46 <Ben> RRSAgent, bye
23:15:46 <RRSAgent> I see no action items