IRC log of databinding on 2008-02-01

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RRSAgent, make logs public

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08:10:04 [trackbot-ng]

Zakim, this will be DBWG

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I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot-ng

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Meeting: XML Schema Patterns for Databinding Working Group Teleconference

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Date: 01 February 2008

08:44:02 [JonC]

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08:45:04 [JonC]

try again... Looking at GoogleBase xsd and sequence/any patterns being excluded because they have finite maxoccurs. Pattern seems to exclude this: //xs:sequence/xs:any[@processContents = 'lax' and (not (@minOccurs) or @minOccurs = '1' or @minOccurs = '0') and (not (@maxOccurs) or @maxOccurs = '1' or @maxOccurs='unbounded') and @namespace = '##targetNamespace']/ (., @processContents, @minOccurs, @maxOccurs, @namespace)

08:46:16 [JonC]

plus also fails because it has a specific google namespace assignment. simplify Pattern? all advanced anyway...... unless we are going to permit unbounded wildcards into basic at some point we could radically cut this to: .//xs:sequence/xs:any[@processContents = 'lax' ]/ (., @processContents, @minOccurs, @maxOccurs, @namespace)

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10:59:16 [pauld]

Topic: lc-haas-1 "Difficulty to read patterns as expressed with XPath 2.0"

10:59:53 [pauld]

pauld: Hugo correctly points out XPath 2.0 isn't well understood by some of our readership

11:00:02 [pauld]

.. suggest a primer

11:00:18 [pauld]

george: not well understood by me, either :)

11:01:27 [pauld]

pauld: suggest looking at our patterns. We could write an appendix or a primer

11:01:56 [pauld]

pauld: seems like a lot of work to me for us at this stage

11:02:14 [pauld]

jonc: appendix with "worked examples" should be enough

11:02:39 [pauld]

george: shouldn't be too long

11:02:47 [pauld]

pauld: any volunteers?

11:03:22 [pauld]

.. god way to understand it is to document it :)

11:03:34 [JonC]

should be me then...

11:04:05 [pauld]

pauld: seems like a very slippery slope

11:09:36 [Yves]

http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/examples/6/09/SubstitutionGroup/Overview.html

11:23:48 [pauld]

pauld: suggest finding the idioms used in patterns.xml, enumerate them, then write one sentence on each referencing XPath 2.0 spec

11:25:46 [pauld]

ACTION: calladij to write an appendix on XPath idioms used in the specs

11:25:46 [trackbot-ng]

Sorry, couldn't find user - calladij

11:26:55 [pauld]

ACTION: jcalladi to write an appendix on XPath idioms used in the specs

11:26:55 [trackbot-ng]

Created ACTION-127 - Write an appendix on XPath idioms used in the specs [on Jonathan Calladine - due 2008-02-08].

11:27:20 [pauld]

s/ACTION: calladij to write an appendix on XPath idioms used in the specs//

11:28:27 [pauld]

RESOLUTION: accepted lc-haas-1 XPath patterns primer to appear in Basic and Advanced as an appendix

11:29:09 [pauld]

Topic: Roundup

11:30:25 [pauld]

pauld: so we think Basic is mostly done, pending Jonc's appendix

11:30:47 [pauld]

.. a rerun of some of the toolkits would be nice to go to PR with

11:31:09 [pauld]

george: can look at that, the ones I can run at least

11:31:13 [pauld]

pauld: monday?

11:31:46 [pauld]

pauld: coverage is still a concern

11:32:16 [pauld]

pauld: will work on my annotated schema report for the collection, and add patterns this avo as a result

11:32:34 [pauld]

pauld: patterns detection service?

11:33:14 [pauld]

george: made a command line version, and a serverlet version

11:33:36 [pauld]

.. stylesheet is now separate

11:33:59 [pauld]

yves: will try to get that running monday

11:35:06 [pauld]

pauld: command line is useful, but service is going to drive adoption

11:37:56 [pauld]

OK, telcon on Tuesday to move both documents to Last Call

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11:38:13 [pauld]

rrsagent, generate minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/02/01-databinding-minutes.html pauld

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