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20:03:56 <r12a> zakim, who's here ?
20:03:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see Michael_Monaghan, Richard, ??P7
20:03:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, r12a, DavidClarke, Mick, andrewc
20:04:03 <Zakim> + +44.797.368.aaaa
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20:04:14 <r12a> zakim, P7 is Andrew
20:04:14 <Zakim> sorry, r12a, I do not recognize a party named 'P7'
20:04:22 <r12a> zakim, who's here ?
20:04:22 <Zakim> On the phone I see Michael_Monaghan, Richard, ??P7, +44.797.368.aaaa
20:04:23 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, r12a, DavidClarke, Mick
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20:04:41 <r12a> zakim, ??P7 is Andrew
20:05:03 <Zakim> +Andrew; got it
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20:05:27 <r12a> zakim, who's here ?
20:05:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see Michael_Monaghan, Richard, Andrew
20:05:28 <Zakim> On IRC I see fsasaki, andrewc_, RRSAgent, Zakim, r12a, DavidClarke, Mick
20:05:59 <Zakim> + +44.797.368.aabb
20:06:11 <r12a> zakim, +44 is David
20:06:11 <Zakim> +David; got it
20:06:28 <r12a> zakim, mute david
20:06:28 <Zakim> David should now be muted
20:08:03 <r12a> zakim, who's here ?
20:08:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see Michael_Monaghan, Richard, Andrew, David (muted)
20:08:05 <Zakim> On IRC I see fsasaki, andrewc_, RRSAgent, Zakim, r12a, DavidClarke, Mick
20:08:07 <Zakim> +Felix
20:08:20 <r12a> zakim, who's here ?
20:08:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see Michael_Monaghan, Richard, Andrew, David (muted), Felix
20:08:24 <Zakim> On IRC I see fsasaki, andrewc_, RRSAgent, Zakim, r12a, DavidClarke, Mick
20:10:47 <andrewc_> http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/index.php?title=Converting
20:11:23 <r12a> ACTION: Andrew to move his page qa-utf8-upgrade back to wiki using 'what is encoding' as a template DONE
20:11:33 <r12a> zakim, dial richard-home
20:11:33 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
20:11:35 <Zakim> +Richard
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20:12:44 <r12a> ACTION: Richard create notes on how to use the wiki template
20:13:12 <r12a> ] ACTION: Felix: send comment on "its successor" formulation to XML WG DONE
20:13:23 <r12a> ACTION: Felix: send comment on "its successor" formulation to XML WG DONE
20:14:04 <r12a> ACTION: Richard: to send UAX#29 comments link to list to be forwarded Friday pending no objections  DONE
20:14:40 <r12a> ACTION: Richard: to send UAX#29 comments link to list to be forwarded Friday pending no objections [DONE]
20:16:48 <r12a> Topic: Info share
20:17:04 <r12a> Felix: ITS best practices document almost ready to publish
20:17:28 <r12a> ... and plans to close the WG and start an ITS-focused Interest Group
20:17:29 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html
20:17:45 <DavidClarke> I have a little info share. IE8 is intending to be W3 standards compliant, with a sting in the tail though.
20:17:50 <DavidClarke> Zakim, unmute david
20:17:50 <Zakim> David should no longer be muted
20:19:09 <DavidClarke> http://www.dragonthoughts.com/blog/2008/01/29/microsoft-finally-work-for-standards-in-ie-8/
20:19:42 <DavidClarke> zakim, mute david
20:19:42 <Zakim> David should now be muted
20:21:01 <r12a> Topic: What is encoding article
20:21:02 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-what-is-encoding.en.php
20:24:05 <fsasaki> fine by me
20:24:14 <DavidClarke> I'm happy with it being published
20:24:26 <r12a> agreed to publish
20:24:51 <r12a> ACTION: Richard to publish Character encoding for Beginners article
20:25:46 <r12a> Topic: BCP 47 and XML Schema
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20:26:21 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4850#c3
20:27:51 <aphillip> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
20:27:56 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
20:27:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-minutes.html aphillip
20:29:05 <Zakim> +aphillip
20:30:42 <aphillip> Meeting: Internationalization Core WG
20:30:59 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Philips
20:31:07 <DavidClarke> I agree
20:31:36 <r12a> ACTION: Felix to contact XML Schema to ask them not to close language validation issue before we've seen the wording
20:32:02 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make the minutes
20:32:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/30-core-minutes.html aphillip
20:32:49 <DavidClarke> Zakim, unmute david
20:32:49 <Zakim> David should no longer be muted
20:33:06 <DavidClarke> Zakim, mute david
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20:33:40 <aphillip> Topic: Canonical XML to PR
20:34:56 <aphillip> two things that might be a problem
20:35:08 <aphillip> 1. removed NFC requirement for C14N XML output
20:35:51 <aphillip> 2. reference 3986 instead of 3987 and use the term uri where we think they should mean iri
20:38:26 <aphillip> andrew: why was normalization removed:
20:38:39 <aphillip> addison: xml processors not really supporting for data; data model is a separate matter
20:39:54 <aphillip> addison: C14N is consistent with late normalization (current state of charmodnorm), but not consistent with our historical position
20:40:50 <aphillip> andrew: not a lot of data sets extant that are affected (such as Vietnamese)
20:43:40 <aphillip> felix: what did you propose saying?
20:44:04 <aphillip> addison: specifically approve of transition, calling out the issues and our positions on them
20:44:59 <fsasaki> felix: understanding the issues as "C14N 1.1. is consistent with charmod direction not to require early normalization anymore. We are pleased to see xpath model"
20:45:42 <aphillip> addison: they *say* URI a lot and what we want are IRIs ... or at least LEIRIs
20:45:57 <aphillip> richard: need to troll the archives ont hat; should probably say something about it
20:46:06 <aphillip> s/ont hat/on that/
20:47:17 <aphillip> addison: add normative reference to 3987 and reference IRI or LEIRI
20:48:34 <aphillip> felix: needs a clarification
20:48:40 <aphillip> richard: at least a note?
20:49:23 <aphillip> ACTION: Addison: contact C14N XML about IRI issue and seek resolution
20:49:57 <aphillip> addison: what about normalization?
20:50:07 <aphillip> richard: should put a note in recommending
20:50:40 <aphillip> ACTION: Addison: check C14N XML 1.1 for health warning on normalization and comment appropriately if there is not one
20:52:01 <aphillip> felix: agenda+ styling in HTML5 and dir on public list thread: needs follow up
20:53:58 <aphillip> Topic: Agenda for next time
20:54:06 <aphillip> put CSS and HTML5 first next time
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20:54:45 <DavidClarke> bye
20:54:45 <Zakim> -Felix
20:54:46 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
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20:55:03 <Zakim> Attendees were Michael_Monaghan, Richard, +44.797.368.aaaa, Andrew, +44.797.368.aabb, David, Felix, aphillip
20:55:11 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
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