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14:47:02 <ivan> zakim, this will be sweo
14:47:02 <Zakim> ok, ivan; I see SW_SWEO()10:00AM scheduled to start in 13 minutes
14:47:11 <ivan> rrsagent, set log public
14:47:21 <ivan> Meeting: SWEO Weekly Telco
14:47:25 <ivan> Chair: Susie
14:48:03 <ivan> Regrets: Andrea, Pasquale, Kingsley, Leo
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14:59:03 <Zakim> SW_SWEO()10:00AM has now started
14:59:09 <Zakim> +Susie
14:59:13 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
14:59:13 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
14:59:15 <Zakim> +Ivan
14:59:49 <Zakim> + +1.713.754.aaaa
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15:00:21 <ivan> zakim, aaaa is Frank
15:00:21 <Zakim> +Frank; got it
15:00:55 <Zakim> +LeeF
15:01:12 <Zakim> +??P24
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15:01:38 <ivan> zakim, ??P4 is Jacek
15:01:38 <Zakim> I already had ??P4 as Zhen, ivan
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15:01:57 <Zakim> +??P9
15:02:17 <uldis> Zakim: ??P9 is uldis
15:02:25 <uldis> Zakim: ??P9 is me
15:02:30 <LeeF> zakim, mute me
15:02:30 <Zakim> LeeF should now be muted
15:02:46 <ivan> zakim, mute uldis
15:02:46 <Zakim> sorry, ivan, I do not know which phone connection belongs to uldis
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15:03:08 <JacekK> zakim, who is noisy?
15:03:18 <Zakim> JacekK, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Susie (65%), Frank (50%)
15:03:26 <ivan> zakim, mute Frank
15:03:26 <Zakim> Frank should now be muted
15:03:56 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
15:03:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see Susie, Ivan, Frank (muted), LeeF (muted), JacekK, ??P9
15:03:59 <Zakim> On IRC I see Susie, uldis, JacekK, LeeF, FrankC, bengee, RRSAgent, Zakim, ivan, Kjetil
15:04:24 <Zakim> + +99754aabb
15:04:28 <ivan> zakim, ??P9 is uldis
15:04:28 <Zakim> +uldis; got it
15:04:42 <ivan> zakim, aabb is benji
15:04:42 <Zakim> +benji; got it
15:05:18 <ivan> scribe: benji
15:05:27 <ivan> scribenick: bengee
15:06:16 <ivan> -> http://jacek.cz/presentations/2008-01-23-sweo-sti-education.pdf Jacek's presentation
15:06:22 <bengee> Topic: STI overview
15:07:27 <bengee> Jacek introduces STI2
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15:08:21 <bengee> presentation is also linked from today's agenda page (http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/Meetings/2008-01-23_Conference_Call)
15:09:39 <bengee> STI2 = Semantic Technology Institute International
15:10:37 <bengee> a collaborative initiative
15:11:37 <bengee> Jacek: with direct regard to SWEO, there are plans to align educational SemWeb activities
15:12:20 <bengee> ... slide 5 in the pdf has some details
15:12:46 <bengee> ... interdisciplinary and international
15:13:21 <bengee> ... for both researchers and practitioners
15:14:14 <bengee> ... exchange programs between participating institutes, summer schools, internships
15:15:05 <Zakim> +Melli_Annamalai
15:16:18 <bengee> ... Shared MSc program, starts this year (http://www.semantic-web-academy.eu/)
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15:17:19 <bengee> ... STI2 handles related administration
15:20:08 <bengee> ... also planned: an experts db
15:20:31 <bengee> ... training material repository
15:21:45 <bengee> ... EU FP7 Support Action for materials and events
15:22:31 <bengee> ... hoping for collaboration with SWEO
15:22:51 <bengee> Susie: what sort of events (re collab mentioned in slides)
15:23:55 <bengee> Jacek: e.g. collab during ESWC, ESTC, ASWC
15:23:58 <ivan> q+
15:24:38 <bengee> Susie: another q: what about collateral material (flyers etc)
15:25:06 <bengee> Jacek: possibly review of STI2-produced material via SWEO
15:25:24 <ivan> ack ivan 
15:25:38 <bengee> ... in general: any collab would be welcome
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15:26:19 <bengee> Ivan: one (short-term) issue: current SWEO about to end, STI2 about to start
15:26:39 <bengee> ... overlap should be avoided
15:26:57 <Susie> Input suggestions for SWEO2 at: http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/Next_Steps
15:27:10 <bengee> ... new SWEO still discussed
15:27:46 <bengee> ... which could offer STI2 the opportunity to take a step back and think how the collaboration with W3C's education efforts could *ideally* be
15:29:29 <bengee> ... wonders if Jacek could have a look at the "Next_Steps" wiki page and maybe add some points
15:29:47 <bengee> Jacek: good idea, will do
15:31:25 <bengee> ACTION: JacekK to add some STI2-related ideas to http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/Next_Steps
15:31:59 <bengee> Susie: wrt to next steps:
15:32:34 <bengee> ... would like to have everyone add their notes to the the, also for debriefing
15:32:37 <ivan> Topic: business presentation
15:33:06 <bengee> Susie: please provide feedback
15:33:37 <ivan> -> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/BusinessPresentation Jeff's document
15:33:41 <bengee> ... maybe also inform Ian from the comm team
15:33:53 <bengee> ... once we've incoprporated our feedback
15:34:02 <ivan> Topic: Info Gathering
15:34:02 <bengee> Topic: InfoGathering
15:34:13 <bengee> leobard has loaded the data
15:34:18 <bengee> ;)
15:34:28 <bengee> tech seems to work
15:34:41 <bengee> close to be able to announce 
15:34:49 <bengee> Topic: URI Document
15:35:17 <bengee> Susie: looks like need for editing is decreaseing
15:35:41 <bengee> ... some questions are coming in
15:36:04 <bengee> ... but those don't necessarily means that document changes are needed
15:36:12 <bengee> ... waiting for TAG comments
15:36:19 <bengee> ... deadline is end of the week
15:36:39 <bengee> ... thinking about extending SWEO for a month
15:36:51 <bengee> ... not only for URI doc, but also for biz presentation
15:37:07 <bengee> ... plus other ongoing tasks
15:37:32 <bengee> ... knowee project as well
15:37:49 <bengee> ... maybe some UI thingy for the info gathering data?
15:38:16 <ivan> q+
15:38:28 <ivan> ack ivan
15:38:38 <bengee> Ivan: no new tasks!
15:38:55 <bengee> ... only ongoing activities
15:39:36 <bengee> .. we'd need a list of already started tasks, and how long each of it would realistically need to get finished
15:40:28 <bengee> ... concerned of a possible overlap between what danja is creating at the moment and the stuff that IST2 is producing
15:40:34 <bengee> ... e.g. the REASE repos
15:41:23 <bengee> Jacek: their efforts are more IRL (i.e. F2F) activities
15:41:49 <bengee> Ivan: could be other way round, too, that danja's work could be interesting to IST2
15:42:24 <ivan> s/IST2/STI2/
15:42:25 <bengee> s/IST2/STI2/
15:42:28 <bengee> heh
15:43:20 <ivan> list of topics for extensions:
15:43:27 <ivan> - use case facets
15:43:41 <ivan> - Danny's work and collaboration with STI2 on that
15:43:45 <ivan> - Cool URI
15:43:53 <ivan> - Bengee's knowee project
15:44:04 <ivan> - Business presentation
15:45:17 <bengee> Ivan will contact the mgmt team, but can't make promises
15:46:35 <bengee> Topic: FAQ Updates
15:46:47 <bengee> Ivan: two new entries
15:47:38 <bengee> ... follow-ups from the recet sciam article
15:48:34 <bengee> Topic: Use Cases
15:49:04 <bengee> Ivan: no content updates
15:49:29 <bengee> Melli: working on facets
15:50:00 <bengee> ... some new values could be added
15:50:21 <ivan> q+
15:50:40 <bengee> ... maybe highlight the core benefits of each UC
15:51:07 <LeeF> zakim, unmute me
15:51:07 <Zakim> LeeF should no longer be muted
15:51:19 <bengee> Ivan: Type of Technology Used triggered the initial discussion about improved facets
15:52:08 <bengee> LeeF: finer granularity may not always be available (e.g. which specific OWL flavour is used)
15:52:31 <LeeF> zakim, mute me
15:52:31 <Zakim> LeeF should now be muted
15:53:07 <LeeF> zakim, unmute me
15:53:07 <Zakim> LeeF should no longer be muted
15:53:29 <bengee> Susie: Ideally, facet updates should be done before sweo ends
15:54:20 <bengee> Topic: community projects
15:54:34 <bengee> bengee: knowee beta still in the works..
15:54:56 <Zakim> -LeeF
15:55:04 <Zakim> -Frank
15:55:05 <Zakim> -Melli_Annamalai
15:55:06 <Zakim> -JacekK
15:55:07 <Zakim> -Susie
15:55:09 <Zakim> -uldis
15:55:10 <Zakim> -Ivan
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15:55:55 <bengee> anyone doing the zakim dance?
15:56:46 <ivan> zakim, bye
15:56:46 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Susie, Ivan, +1.713.754.aaaa, Frank, LeeF, JacekK, +99754aabb, uldis, benji, Melli_Annamalai
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15:56:56 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:56:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/23-sweo-minutes.html ivan
15:56:56 <bengee> cool, thx
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