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16:09:16 <ericP> Zakim, this is BioRDF
16:09:16 <Zakim> ok, ericP; that matches SW_HCLS(BioRDF)11:00AM
16:09:25 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-cw
16:09:25 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
16:09:27 <Zakim> +EricP
16:09:37 <mscottm> Susie: Matthias is almost finished and will give an update next week
16:10:05 <ericP> mscottm: no serious progress (as predicted)
16:10:12 <ericP> ... most comments integrated
16:10:24 <ericP> ... feedback from Holger (in a GoogleDocs location)
16:10:42 <ericP> ... need to see how synchronization will work out
16:11:20 <ericP> ... GoogleDocs not based on latest version
16:11:36 <ericP> ... have also recieved a PDF from Susie
16:11:51 <ericP> ... read doc with a critical eye -- needs re-ordering
16:12:23 <ericP> ... awaiting comments from William Bug
16:12:54 <ericP> ... any other reviewers out there?
16:13:06 <ericP> Susie: asked Adam West @ Lilly
16:13:22 <ericP> ... he'll look at doc in the next couple days
16:14:20 <ericP> ... expect the comment integration and re-org by next Monday?
16:14:36 <ericP> mscottm: hopefully, but have noticed a lot of issues
16:16:04 <ericP> Susie: aiming for publication at the end of January
16:17:03 <ericP> "/invite zakim #BioRDF"
16:17:24 <ericP> "/invite RRSAgent #BioRDF"
16:17:37 <Zakim> +Alan_Ruttenberg
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16:18:12 <alanr> zakim, who is here
16:18:12 <Zakim> alanr, you need to end that query with '?'
16:18:13 <ericP> Topic: DSE note
16:18:16 <alanr> zakim, who is here?
16:18:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.781.662.aaaa, Kerstin_Forsberg, +49.351.aabb, ??P11, [IPcaller], +46.4.63.3.aacc, EricP, Alan_Ruttenberg
16:18:18 <Zakim> On IRC I see alanr, RRSAgent, Zakim, mscottm, michel, Susie, AdrianP, ericP
16:20:40 <mscottm> Kerstin: have done some edits of the DSE doc in googledocs, talked to AlanR about it, as well as Vipul, relating Clinical Research to Clinical Practice
16:20:54 <alanr> lots of unidentifieds on the phone list
16:22:05 <mscottm> ...need to synchronize efforts and decide where to take the document, there are currently a number of ideas behind it.
16:22:05 <AdrianP> Zakim, aab is me
16:22:05 <Zakim> sorry, AdrianP, I do not recognize a party named 'aab'
16:22:15 <AdrianP> Zakim, aabb is me
16:22:15 <Zakim> +AdrianP; got it
16:23:27 <mscottm> ...would like to have a quick talk with EricN about it, expressing biomarkers in the model
16:24:48 <mscottm> AlanR: I will have some time to look at the doc this week. Kerstin - please put notes into it about where you want to take it and I'll try to do some of it.
16:25:19 <mscottm> Susie: Maybe we should wait until you've talked with EricN
16:26:15 <AdrianP> Zakim, mute me
16:26:15 <Zakim> AdrianP should now be muted
16:26:30 <mscottm> Bo: <missed this> suggestions for editing
16:27:42 <Susie> zakim, +1.781.662.aaaa is Susie
16:27:42 <Zakim> +Susie; got it
16:27:49 <michel> i'm calling with skype
16:27:56 <AdrianP> Zakim, unmute me
16:27:56 <Zakim> AdrianP should no longer be muted
16:28:12 <ericP> Zakim, [IPcaller] is michel 
16:28:12 <Zakim> +michel; got it
16:28:18 <michel> yai!
16:28:34 <alanr> zakim, aacc is Bo
16:28:34 <Zakim> +Bo; got it
16:28:43 <alanr> zakim, who is here?
16:28:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see Susie, Kerstin_Forsberg, AdrianP, ??P11, michel, Bo, EricP, Alan_Ruttenberg
16:28:46 <Zakim> On IRC I see alanr, RRSAgent, Zakim, mscottm, michel, Susie, AdrianP, ericP
16:28:56 <AdrianP> Zakim, mute me
16:28:56 <Zakim> AdrianP should now be muted
16:29:07 <mscottm> Zakim, ??P11 is me
16:29:07 <Zakim> +mscottm; got it
16:29:17 <alanr> zakim, who is here?
16:29:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see Susie, Kerstin_Forsberg, AdrianP (muted), mscottm, michel, Bo, EricP, Alan_Ruttenberg
16:29:19 <Zakim> On IRC I see alanr, RRSAgent, Zakim, mscottm, michel, Susie, AdrianP, ericP
16:29:47 <AdrianP> Zakim, unmute me
16:29:47 <Zakim> AdrianP should no longer be muted
16:30:16 <mscottm> Susie: I will try to get EricN to dial in to next week's call
16:30:45 <mscottm> ...people at Cetus might be happy to review the doc
16:30:45 <AdrianP> The note URL is: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/hcls/Note_DSE_20071108.html ?
16:31:13 <alanr> no
16:31:18 <alanr> hang on
16:31:28 <alanr> http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dthvctw_5fwwwprc3
16:31:36 <AdrianP> ok. thanks
16:31:37 <mscottm> ...wait a week and then bring the others in to review the DSE note
16:31:46 <AdrianP> Zakim, mute me
16:31:47 <Zakim> AdrianP should now be muted
16:31:57 <ericP> Zakim, who is speaking?
16:32:08 <Zakim> ericP, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Susie (8%), EricP (17%)
16:32:14 <ericP> Zakim, please mute me
16:32:14 <Zakim> EricP should now be muted
16:32:35 <mscottm> ...That's it for the DSE doc. Jonathan is taking a short break so URI note progress is suspended.
16:33:34 <mscottm> Susie: we have 1 submission for the workshop, we will be getting more soon
16:34:23 <mscottm> ...We have Mark Wilkinson for a keynote, still looking to hear from <??>
16:35:17 <alanr> hear from Greg Tucker-Kellogg
16:35:17 <mscottm> AlanR: Some misunderstanding about the tutorial, it is pending, 1st in line in case one falls out.
16:35:27 <michel> waiting to hear from Greg Tucker-Kellogg
16:35:32 <ericP> i expect early november
16:35:37 <ericP> Zakim, who is speaking?
16:35:37 <alanr> It is officially rejected now. Was number 4, but they accepted 3
16:35:37 <mscottm> thanks michel
16:35:49 <Zakim> ericP, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Susie (63%)
16:36:19 <mscottm> Susie: the next Technical Plenary/AC meeting is in October in Cannes-Mandelieu
16:36:34 <alanr> OWLED and ISWC immediately follow TPAC
16:36:39 <alanr> FYI
16:37:44 <mscottm> Susie: it might be worth considering meeting up around the Tech Plen/AC meeting or at ISWC (in Karlsruhe)
16:38:09 <alanr> Sort of unfortunate lame-duckish....
16:38:19 <mscottm> Susie: Our charter is thru April. Would like to hear ideas from others about what we can do in the 3 months
16:39:24 <mscottm> ...something with Exhibit, or Potluck, another integration with SPARQL.
16:40:42 <ericP> mscottm: we've been mapping ontologies to skos narrower/broader terms
16:41:03 <ericP> ... can use it to query and find narrower terms
16:41:53 <ericP> ericP: how is this different from rdfs:subPropertyOf ?
16:42:40 <ericP> mscottm: expect it requires less strict reasoning
16:42:42 <ericP> ... Gus's student has web services that do this already
16:42:49 <ericP> Susie: reallistic in 3 months?
16:43:18 <ericP> mscottm: for a SPARQL query, might be as easy as finding legal terms for the query
16:43:40 <ericP> ... much less ambitious than natural language queries
16:43:59 <ericP> ... wanted to tell you 'cause we have good contact with this work
16:44:44 <ericP> q+ to ask what low-hanging data we have
16:44:50 <alanr> q+
16:44:57 <alanr> ack ericp
16:44:57 <Zakim> ericP, you wanted to ask what low-hanging data we have
16:47:03 <alanr> q+ to ask about OLS, Bioportal, remind that skos closures already in kb
16:49:20 <ericP> alanr: skos closures available on MeSH terms
16:50:27 <ericP> -> Ontology Lookup Service OLS (Ontology Lookup Service)
16:50:42 <ericP> -> http://www.ebi.ac.uk/ontology-lookup/ OLS (Ontology Lookup Service)
16:51:29 <ericP> -> http://www.bioontology.org/ncbo/faces/index.xhtml The National Center for Biomedical Ontology - BioPortal
16:52:11 <alanr> best go browser http://amigo.geneontology.org/cgi-bin/amigo/go.cgi
16:53:09 <ericP> -> http://amigo.geneontology.org/cgi-bin/amigo/go.cgi AmiGO Gene Ontology browser
16:55:07 <AdrianP> Using declarative rules on top of the database could be also interesting
16:56:09 <mscottm> Adrian - I agree. Do you have ideas for how to do that? (I'm guessing yes. ;) )
16:57:19 <AdrianP> e.g. transformation rules, recommender rules, expert systems
16:57:20 <Zakim> -Kerstin_Forsberg
16:57:23 <AdrianP> bye
16:57:24 <Zakim> -Alan_Ruttenberg
16:57:26 <Zakim> -Bo
16:57:28 <Zakim> -michel
16:57:35 <Zakim> -AdrianP
16:57:45 <Zakim> -Susie
16:57:49 <Zakim> -mscottm
16:58:01 <Zakim> -EricP
16:58:03 <Zakim> SW_HCLS(BioRDF)11:00AM has ended
16:58:05 <Zakim> Attendees were Kerstin_Forsberg, +49.351.aabb, +46.4.63.3.aacc, EricP, Alan_Ruttenberg, AdrianP, Susie, michel, Bo, mscottm
16:58:15 <ericP> Zakim, please draft minutes
16:58:15 <Zakim> I don't understand 'please draft minutes', ericP
16:58:24 <ericP> rrsgent, please draft minutes
16:58:30 <ericP> rrsagent, please draft minutes
16:58:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/21-BioRDF-minutes.html ericP
17:01:09 <Susie> rrsagent, set log world-visible
17:01:53 <ericP> Susie, play a minute with Zakim?
17:02:02 <ericP> (work out the probs for next week)
17:02:18 <Susie> OK
17:02:47 <ericP> hmm, come to think of it, it's hard to emulate the problem
17:03:13 <ericP> i'll try to be on the call early next week and observe
17:03:21 <Susie> Maybe Zakim didn't want to work on a holiday?
17:03:59 <ericP> possibly. i hope he's not going to formally complain about my pressuring him
17:04:19 <Susie> I think you did shame him into participating!
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