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17:54:48 <Jan> Zakim, this will be UAWG
17:55:05 <Jan> Meeting: WAI UA
17:55:49 <Jan> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2008JanMar/0013.html
17:55:57 <Jan> Scribe: Jan
17:56:08 <Jan> Regrets: Peter Parente
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17:59:37 <Jan> zakim, this will be UAWG1
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18:00:49 <Jan> zakim, this will be UAWG
18:00:49 <Zakim> ok, Jan, I see WAI_UAWG()1:00PM already started
18:01:04 <Jan> zakim, who is on the call
18:01:04 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the call', Jan
18:01:35 <Jan> zakim, who is here?
18:01:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P1
18:01:36 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Jan
18:01:47 <Jan> zakim, ??P1 is really Jan
18:01:47 <Zakim> +Jan; got it
18:04:38 <Zakim> +Gregory_Rosmaita
18:10:04 <Jan> GR: HTML WG update...
18:10:16 <Jan> GR: Vote to release HTML5...
18:10:37 <Jan> GR: By standards it has carried....but 2 formal objections...
18:11:58 <Jan> GR: WHAT-WG concern...they originated HTML5 but are outside W3C...
18:13:56 <Jan> GR: Date for publication to be Jan. 22
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18:27:37 <Zakim> +[IBM]
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18:28:49 <Jan> zakim, [IBM] is really cklaws
18:28:49 <Zakim> +cklaws; got it
18:31:33 <Jan> Topic: JA to Ping CG and PF about AIA
18:31:42 <Jan> GR: Gives some AIA background
18:35:26 <Jan> Topic: JR to Check out "available programmatically "
18:35:32 <Jan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2008JanMar/0006.html
18:38:59 <Jan> JR: Reads it
18:39:35 <Jan> CL: Programmic read-access etc. is defined where we use it GL6.1...
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18:41:25 <oedipus> q+ to suggest that GJR takes old "printable glossary" and compare to the current glossaries of other WAI specs in ESW wiki space
18:41:35 <oedipus> q=
18:41:38 <oedipus> q-
18:41:51 <Jan> JR: What about Web-based user agents
18:42:11 <Jan> GR: What we need is common glossary...
18:42:31 <oedipus> GJR takes old "printable glossary" and compare to the current glossaries of other WAI specs in ESW wiki space
18:42:35 <Jan> GR: Good exercise would be to compare terms and align concepts...
18:44:05 <Jan> GR: PF not using a common glossary
18:44:34 <Jan> JR: also practical problem that words have diff meaning depending on context
18:44:52 <oedipus> GJR: at least ATAG, UAAG and ARIA -- if words have different meanings according to context, then we need to explain that somewhere
18:45:03 <oedipus> CL: ERT, too
18:45:51 <Jan> JR: Maybe I should talk to Al G.
18:46:09 <Jan> GR: Now would be a good time to talk to them since docs are being combined
18:46:23 <Jan> CL: What's status of the those docs?
18:46:49 <Jan> GR: Role and state combined then best practices separate as executive layer-type of doc
18:47:42 <Jan> GR: ARIA spec is getting really large to a primer is needed
18:48:13 <Jan> GR: Have nagging concern that best practices and checklists allow people to not go further
18:48:33 <Jan> CL: But in previous specs into details right away without big picture
18:48:59 <Jan> GR: EO group is preparing a frequently asked questions doc for ARIA...most abstract layer
18:49:33 <Jan> GR: If you go to PF group page the latest drafts are there prior to Editor's F2F last week
18:51:05 <Jan> GR: Actually they are pre-Tech plenary
18:53:05 <Jan> CL: Will have regrets next week
18:54:11 <Jan> JR: All, make sure to send your UAAG-perspective comments to the list
18:54:36 <Jan> GR: When HTML5 comes out, I'll do the UAAG review
18:55:43 <Jan> bye
18:55:45 <Zakim> -Gregory_Rosmaita
18:55:49 <Zakim> -cklaws
18:55:50 <Zakim> -Jan
18:55:51 <Zakim> WAI_UAWG()1:00PM has ended
18:55:52 <Zakim> Attendees were Jan, Gregory_Rosmaita, cklaws
18:56:12 <Jan> RRSAgent, make minutes 
18:56:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/17-ua-minutes.html Jan
18:56:18 <Jan> RRSAgent, set logs public 
18:56:23 <Jan> Zakim, bye 
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18:56:30 <Jan> RRSAgent, bye 
18:56:30 <RRSAgent> I see no action items