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15:42:35 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, make log public
15:43:04 <CharlieW> CharlieW has joined #forms
15:43:57 <CharlieW> John -- phone bridge still restricted for 10:45 start
15:44:07 <CharlieW> checking with operator
15:44:48 <CharlieW> josh is checking
15:44:50 <unl> unl has joined #forms
15:46:09 <John_Boyer> Charlie, are you on with an operator?
15:46:16 <CharlieW> yes, josh is fixing the bridge
15:47:22 <klotz> klotz has joined #forms
15:47:22 <CharlieW> working now
15:47:34 <CharlieW> zakim, who is here?
15:47:34 <Zakim> HTML_Forms()11:00AM has not yet started, CharlieW
15:47:35 <Zakim> On IRC I see klotz, unl, CharlieW, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wellsk, markbirbeck, Steven, trackbot-ng
15:47:36 <wellsk> zakim, who is here?
15:47:36 <Zakim> HTML_Forms()11:00AM has not yet started, wellsk
15:47:39 <Zakim> On IRC I see klotz, unl, CharlieW, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wellsk, markbirbeck, Steven, trackbot-ng
15:48:54 <John_Boyer> Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Telecon
15:49:18 <John_Boyer> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0017.html
15:49:34 <John_Boyer> Chair: John
15:49:37 <John_Boyer> Scribe: Leigh
15:50:01 <John_Boyer> scribenick: klotz
15:50:30 <Rafael> Rafael has joined #forms
15:50:40 <John_Boyer> Steven, are you there?
15:50:46 <Roger> Roger has joined #forms
15:50:47 <Steven> woof
15:50:52 <Rafael> zakim, code?
15:50:52 <Zakim> the conference code is hidden, Rafael
15:50:57 <John_Boyer> 36767
15:51:21 <John_Boyer> Steven, can you join the call?
15:51:31 <Steven> oh, ogf course.
15:51:37 <Steven> Sorry, forgot to reset my alarm
15:51:44 <Steven> coming
15:52:06 <John_Boyer> Regrets: Erik, Nick
15:52:15 <wellsk> zakim, who is here?
15:52:15 <Zakim> HTML_Forms()11:00AM has not yet started, wellsk
15:52:15 <John_Boyer> zakim, who is here?
15:52:16 <Zakim> On IRC I see Roger, Rafael, klotz, unl, CharlieW, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wellsk, markbirbeck, Steven, trackbot-ng
15:52:16 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
15:52:19 <Zakim> HTML_Forms()11:00AM has not yet started, John_Boyer
15:52:21 <Zakim> On IRC I see Roger, Rafael, klotz, unl, CharlieW, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wellsk, markbirbeck, Steven, trackbot-ng
15:52:24 <Zakim> sorry, Steven, I don't know what conference this is
15:52:33 <Steven> ah, crap
15:52:42 <John_Boyer> code = 36767
15:54:08 <John_Boyer> John_Boyer has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0017.html
15:54:11 <John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Jan/0017.html
15:54:23 <John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Nov/0072.html
15:55:53 <Steven> I asked for the change by IRC, but didn't send an email. I should have done
15:55:58 <Steven> sorry
15:56:11 <Steven> I have now
15:56:40 <John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-all.html#ui-processing
15:57:08 <Steven> zakim, which call is this?
15:57:08 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, Steven.
15:57:20 <Steven> zakim, this will be forms
15:57:20 <Zakim> ok, Steven, I see HTML_Forms()10:45AM already started
15:57:27 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
15:57:27 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
15:57:29 <Zakim> +Steven
15:58:02 <jturner> jturner has joined #forms
16:00:31 <jturner> zakim, code?
16:00:31 <Zakim> the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), jturner
16:00:36 <unl> zakim, mute me
16:00:36 <Zakim> sorry, unl, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
16:00:57 <wellsk> zakim, who is here?
16:00:57 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.919.254.aaaa, +1.250.294.aabb, [IBM], Leigh_Klotz, Ulrich_Nicolas_Lisse, Rafael, Steven
16:00:59 <Zakim> On IRC I see jturner, Roger, Rafael, klotz, unl, CharlieW, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, wellsk, markbirbeck, Steven, trackbot-ng
16:01:08 <wellsk> zakim, aaaa is wellsk
16:01:08 <Zakim> +wellsk; got it
16:01:26 <unl> zakim, Ulrich_Nicolas_Lisse is me
16:01:31 <Zakim> +unl; got it
16:01:44 <unl> zakim, mute me
16:01:53 <Zakim> +??P19
16:01:57 <Zakim> unl should now be muted
16:02:12 <markbirbeck> zakim, i am ?
16:02:23 <Zakim> +markbirbeck; got it
16:02:47 <Zakim> +??P22
16:03:06 <jturner> zakim,P22 is me
16:03:06 <Zakim> sorry, jturner, I do not recognize a party named 'P22'
16:03:18 <jturner> zakim, ??P22 is me
16:03:18 <Zakim> +jturner; got it
16:03:24 <jturner> zakim, mute me
16:03:24 <Zakim> jturner should now be muted
16:03:34 <Rafael> Zakim, Rafael has Roger
16:03:34 <Zakim> +Roger; got it
16:09:37 <John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-all.html#ui-processing
16:14:42 <markbirbeck> http://www.formsplayer.com/node/384
16:15:51 <markbirbeck> http://svn.x-port.net/svn/public/xformswg/styling/xf-10-default.css
16:20:28 <wellsk> Thanks Steven
16:20:37 <klotz> ACTION: Leigh Klotz to split appendix G.3 examples into two parts: a CSS file of stuff implied by the rest of the spec, using both CSS3 and the substitute class names from http://www.formsplayer.com/node/384; an example of form layout for elaboration later by others.
16:20:38 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-446 - Klotz to split appendix G.3 examples into two parts: a CSS file of stuff implied by the rest of the spec, using both CSS3 and the substitute class names from http://www.formsplayer.com/node/384; an example of form layout for elaboration later by others. [on Leigh Klotz, Jr. - due 2008-01-23].
16:20:41 <John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/#deliverables
16:22:39 <John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_Future_Features
16:43:03 <John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/Nested_models_for_convenient_grouping_and_composition
16:59:09 <markbirbeck> +1 Charlie. :)
16:59:11 <markbirbeck> http://www.w3.org/2004/04/webapps-cdf-ws/papers/webapps-workshop-standards-based-vm.pdf
17:05:25 <klotz> ACTION: Charlie Wiecha and Mark Birbeck to work on straw proposal for making model optional, allowing submission elements without model elements, and allowign instance elements without model element.  Results to http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_Future_Features
17:05:25 <trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - Charlie
17:16:13 <CharlieW> sorry, didn't see this error...I'm on as CharlieW, is this a problem?
17:16:40 <Roger> thx & bye
17:16:43 <Zakim> -wellsk
17:16:44 <jturner> bye
17:16:48 <Zakim> -Leigh_Klotz
17:16:50 <Zakim> -markbirbeck
17:16:51 <Zakim> -Steven
17:16:52 <Zakim> - +1.250.294.aabb
17:16:53 <Zakim> -unl
17:16:54 <CharlieW> CharlieW has left #forms
17:16:55 <Zakim> -[IBM]
17:16:56 <Zakim> -Rafael
17:16:58 <wellsk> wellsk has left #forms
17:16:58 <Zakim> -jturner
17:17:00 <Zakim> HTML_Forms()10:45AM has ended
17:17:02 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.919.254.aaaa, +1.250.294.aabb, [IBM], Leigh_Klotz, Steven, wellsk, unl, markbirbeck, jturner, Roger
17:17:13 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, make minutes
17:17:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/16-forms-minutes.html John_Boyer
17:17:17 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, bye
17:17:17 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/16-forms-actions.rdf :
17:17:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Leigh Klotz to split appendix G.3 examples into two parts: a CSS file of stuff implied by the rest of the spec, using both CSS3 and the substitute class names from http://www.formsplayer.com/node/384; an example of form layout for elaboration later by others. [1]
17:17:17 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/16-forms-irc#T16-20-37
17:17:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Charlie Wiecha and Mark Birbeck to work on straw proposal for making model optional, allowing submission elements without model elements, and allowign instance elements without model element.  Results to http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/wiki/XForms_Future_Features [2]
17:17:17 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/16-forms-irc#T17-05-25