IRC log of bpwg on 2008-01-03

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14:53:58 [RRSAgent]: RRSAgent has joined #bpwg
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14:54:42 [francois]: zakim, list conferences
14:54:42 [Zakim]: I see Team_W3M()9:00AM active
14:54:44 [Zakim]: also scheduled at this time are MWI_BPWG()10:00AM, UW_UWA()9:00AM, Math_IG()10:00AM, VB_VBWG()10:00AM, Team_Global(review)8:00AM
14:55:26 [francois]: zakim, this will be MWI_BPWG
14:55:26 [Zakim]: ok, francois; I see MWI_BPWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
14:57:52 [miguel]: miguel has joined #bpwg
14:58:49 [Zakim]: MWI_BPWG()10:00AM has now started
14:58:49 [francois]: Meeting: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
14:58:57 [Zakim]: +[W3C-Spain]
14:59:05 [francois]: Date: 3 January 2008
14:59:13 [jo]: zakim, code?
14:59:13 [Zakim]: the conference code is 2794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), jo
14:59:39 [Zakim]: +jo
14:59:41 [francois]: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Jan/0000.html
14:59:52 [DKA]: DKA has joined #bpwg
15:00:19 [DKA]: zakim, code?
15:00:19 [Zakim]: the conference code is 2794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), DKA
15:00:29 [Zakim]: + +049715aaaa
15:00:31 [miguel]: Zakim, [W3C-Spain] is me
15:00:31 [Zakim]: +miguel; got it
15:00:57 [Zakim]: +DKA
15:01:05 [francois]: zakim, aaaa is francois
15:01:05 [Zakim]: +francois; got it
15:01:16 [DKA]: zakim, who is here?
15:01:16 [Zakim]: On the phone I see miguel, jo, francois, DKA
15:01:18 [Zakim]: On IRC I see DKA, miguel, RRSAgent, Zakim, jo, francois, trackbot-ng, dom
15:01:49 [francois]: zakim, mute me
15:01:49 [Zakim]: francois should now be muted
15:02:15 [Zakim]: +MartinJ
15:02:46 [Zakim]: -MartinJ
15:03:18 [francois]: Regrets: kai, adam, drooks, nacho, abel_rionda, achuter
15:03:32 [Zakim]: +AlanTai
15:03:39 [Zakim]: + +077761aabb
15:03:50 [DKA]: zakim, who is here?
15:03:50 [Zakim]: On the phone I see miguel, jo, francois (muted), DKA, AlanTai, +077761aabb
15:03:52 [Zakim]: On IRC I see DKA, miguel, RRSAgent, Zakim, jo, francois, trackbot-ng, dom
15:04:13 [DKA]: zakim aabb is Martin Jones
15:04:13 [jo]: zakim, aabb is MartinJ
15:04:14 [Zakim]: +MartinJ; got it
15:04:48 [DKA]: zakim, who is here?
15:04:48 [Zakim]: On the phone I see miguel, jo, francois (muted), DKA, AlanTai, MartinJ
15:04:49 [Zakim]: On IRC I see DKA, miguel, RRSAgent, Zakim, jo, francois, trackbot-ng, dom
15:04:50 [jo]: scribe: Jo
15:04:54 [francois]: zakim, unmute me
15:04:54 [Zakim]: francois should no longer be muted
15:04:55 [jo]: scribenick: Jo
15:05:16 [jo]: scribenick: francois
15:05:24 [jo]: scribe: francois
15:05:26 [francois]: zakim, mute me
15:05:26 [Zakim]: francois should now be muted
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15:05:56 [jo]: Topic: Good Standing Rules
15:05:59 [DKA]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/GoodStanding.html
15:06:05 [francois]: DKA: Jo, you wanted to add the Good Standing Rules to the agenda
15:06:14 [Bryan]: Bryan has joined #bpwg
15:06:20 [francois]: ... and also an update on group membership in generally
15:06:37 [DKA]: zakim, who is here?
15:06:37 [Zakim]: On the phone I see miguel, jo, francois (muted), DKA, AlanTai, MartinJ
15:06:38 [Zakim]: On IRC I see Bryan, DKA, miguel, RRSAgent, Zakim, jo, francois, trackbot-ng, dom
15:06:47 [Zakim]: +Bryan_Sullivan
15:07:18 [francois]: q+ to mention the existence of a draft page for a Good Standing rules tracker page
15:07:25 [Martin]: Martin has joined #bpwg
15:07:43 [DKA]: ack franc
15:07:44 [Zakim]: francois, you wanted to mention the existence of a draft page for a Good Standing rules tracker page
15:07:44 [jo]: ack f
15:08:21 [Alan_Tai]: Alan_Tai has joined #bpwg
15:08:36 [francois]: -> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/GoodStandingTracker.html
15:11:02 [francois]: Francois: explaining the tracker page...
15:11:08 [jo]: looks good francois!
15:11:17 [DKA]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/open
15:11:30 [jo]: Topic: Open Actions
15:11:41 [francois]: ... mostly automatic, but we'll still have to do a few things manually
15:12:05 [francois]: Topic: Actions for the group in 2008
15:12:29 [francois]: DKA: main action is the BP2 document. I believe we have an editor.
15:12:36 [jo]: s/Topic: Open Actions//
15:13:00 [francois]: ... now that we have an editor, we need to think about how we can start the document, put things together
15:13:12 [francois]: ... I'm open to suggestions on how to start that.
15:13:32 [francois]: ... In the meantime, let's go through the action log
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15:13:57 [jo]: CLOSE ACTION-491
15:13:58 [trackbot-ng]: ACTION-491 Send strawman mobileOK DR to the group list closed
15:14:14 [francois]: ACTION-530?
15:14:14 [trackbot-ng]: ACTION-530 -- Edward Mitukiewicz to draft a page on context and its effect on content authors etc -- due 2008-01-10 -- OPEN
15:14:14 [trackbot-ng]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/530
15:14:23 [francois]: ... Ed is not here today
15:14:43 [francois]: ACTION-589?
15:14:43 [trackbot-ng]: ACTION-589 -- Daniel Appelquist to look for one or more likely candidates to adopt techniques and make arrangements ref copyright and attribution -- due 2007-11-12 -- OPEN
15:14:43 [trackbot-ng]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/589
15:14:59 [francois]: ... haven't done anything on this action 589 yet
15:15:27 [francois]: ... I'm gonna start working on ACTION-594 this week
15:15:37 [SeanP]: SeanP has joined #bpwg
15:15:42 [francois]: ... ACTION-603, Jo?
15:15:56 [jo]: action-604?
15:15:56 [trackbot-ng]: ACTION-604 -- Jo Rabin to elaborate current draft especially in the areas of requirements -- due 2007-12-04 -- OPEN
15:15:56 [trackbot-ng]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/604
15:15:57 [francois]: Jo: no progress
15:16:29 [francois]: DKA: We don't have a TF lead for the CT TF.
15:16:49 [francois]: ... my suggestion is that we take the TF in the main part of the group
15:16:57 [francois]: ... Jo, what do you think?
15:17:49 [francois]: Jo: I would continue separate calls. Bryan, what do you think?
15:18:07 [francois]: Bryan: Yes. For the moment, I would continue with separate calls.
15:18:35 [francois]: Jo: We should review that end of January. We sould be close to working draft
15:18:53 [francois]: DKA: so it's possible that we continue without requiring a TF lead.
15:19:16 [francois]: Jo: I think it's not a good practice for me to be both Chair and Editor
15:19:17 [Zakim]: + +1.630.773.aacc
15:19:28 [DKA]: zakim, who is here?
15:19:28 [Zakim]: On the phone I see miguel, jo, francois, DKA, AlanTai, MartinJ, Bryan_Sullivan, +1.630.773.aacc
15:19:30 [Zakim]: On IRC I see SeanP, MartinJ, Alan_Tai, Bryan, DKA, miguel, RRSAgent, Zakim, jo, francois, trackbot-ng, dom
15:19:40 [francois]: zakim, aacc is SeanP
15:19:40 [Zakim]: +SeanP; got it
15:19:40 [DKA]: zakim, aacc is seanp
15:19:41 [Zakim]: sorry, DKA, I do not recognize a party named 'aacc'
15:20:03 [francois]: ACTION-609?
15:20:03 [trackbot-ng]: ACTION-609 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to get the work on the mobileOK test suite started -- due 2008-01-10 -- OPEN
15:20:03 [trackbot-ng]: http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/609
15:20:17 [francois]: DKA: we'll wait for Dom to come back on that
15:21:01 [francois]: ... The only other real opened action we have is ACTION-614.
15:21:31 [francois]: ... Let's move on with open issues
15:22:15 [francois]: ... We could start discussions on BP2... or I'm opened to suggestions
15:23:06 [francois]: Jo: I have proposed that rather than spend unstructured time on BP2, we start to think a bit before the discussion. Bryan?
15:24:38 [jo]: s/have proposed/propose/
15:25:01 [jo]: +1 to closing the call
15:25:05 [francois]: ACTION: Bryan to circulate his thoughts on BP2 so that we set up an agenda
15:25:05 [trackbot-ng]: Created ACTION-616 - Circulate his thoughts on BP2 so that we set up an agenda [on Bryan Sullivan - due 2008-01-10].
15:25:06 [DKA]: q?
15:25:28 [jo]: PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Happy New Year!
15:25:35 [francois]: +1
15:26:05 [francois]: DKA: OK, I think we're gonna close the call then..
15:26:21 [Zakim]: -jo
15:26:22 [Zakim]: -Bryan_Sullivan
15:26:22 [Zakim]: -DKA
15:26:25 [Zakim]: -SeanP
15:26:27 [Zakim]: -miguel
15:26:28 [Zakim]: -francois
15:26:30 [Zakim]: -AlanTai
15:26:39 [francois]: rrsagent, make logs publi
15:26:41 [francois]: rrsagent, make logs public
15:26:58 [MartinJ]: MartinJ has left #bpwg
15:27:35 [jo]: rrsagent, draft minutes
15:27:35 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/03-bpwg-minutes.html jo
15:28:03 [jo]: Chair: DKA
15:29:40 [jo]: zakim, who is here?
15:29:40 [Zakim]: On the phone I see MartinJ
15:29:41 [Zakim]: On IRC I see SeanP, RRSAgent, Zakim, jo, francois, trackbot-ng, dom
15:29:49 [jo]: zakim, drop martinJ
15:29:49 [Zakim]: MartinJ is being disconnected
15:29:50 [Zakim]: MWI_BPWG()10:00AM has ended
15:29:53 [Zakim]: Attendees were jo, +049715aaaa, miguel, DKA, francois, MartinJ, AlanTai, +077761aabb, Bryan_Sullivan, +1.630.773.aacc, SeanP
15:30:04 [francois]: Present: miguel, jo, francois, DKA, AlanTai, MartinJ, Bryan_Sullivan, SeanP
15:30:17 [francois]: rrsagent, draft minutes
15:30:17 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/03-bpwg-minutes.html francois
15:31:26 [jo]: s/a good practice/good practice/
15:31:36 [jo]: s/sould/should/
15:33:19 [jo]: i/Francois: explaining/jo: wanted to weelcom representation from HP and welcome Martin Jones who is replacing Rhys from Volantis/
15:33:28 [jo]: s/weelcom/welcome/
15:33:51 [jo]: rrsagent, make minutes
15:33:51 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/03-bpwg-minutes.html jo
15:35:36 [jo]: jo has left #bpwg
15:37:21 [francois]: zakim, bye
15:37:21 [Zakim]: Zakim has left #bpwg
15:37:25 [francois]: rrsagent, bye
15:37:25 [RRSAgent]: I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/03-bpwg-actions.rdf :
15:37:25 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Bryan to circulate his thoughts on BP2 so that we set up an agenda [1]
15:37:25 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/01/03-bpwg-irc#T15-25-05