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4. We want to see owl:rational taken out from OWL 2 RL. It is unclear how useful this datatype is to our users.

8. The justification for the [un]supported datatypes is not complete. For example, OWL 2 RL does not allow xsd:positiveInteger which does not appear to violate the stated justification "the intersection of the value spaces of any set of these datatypes is either empty or infinite"

PeterPatel-Schneider 15:25, 24 February 2009 (UTC)


[Draft Response for LC Comment 43b:] ZW2b

Dear Zhe,

Thank you for your message

 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-wg/2009Jan/0083.html

on the OWL 2 Web Ontology Language last call drafts.

Your message contains multiple sections, affecting more than one document, and will thus generate multiple replies. This response is for sections 4 and 8 about the datatypes in OWL 2 RL.

We have adjusted the datatypes of OWL 2 RL to include those XML Schema datatypes that are derived from xsd:string and xsd:integer, including xsd:positiveInteger. These were excluded from OWL 2 RL because of a mistaken analogy with OWL 2 EL and OWL 2 QL, namely that intersection of value spaces must be either empty or infinite to maintain the desired properties of the profile. It turns out that this is not needed in OWL 2 RL to obtain its desired computational properties. As any OWL 2 RL tool has to process xsd: string and xsd:integer, the added implementation burden to support these datatypes is negligible.

The situation with owl:rational and owl:real is different. The working group has received complaints that implementing these datatypes may require significant effort on top of a rule reasoner. Therefore owl:rational and owl:real have been removed from OWL 2 RL. This possibility was mentioned in Feature At Risk #2.

The diffs for these changes can be found at .....

The working group notes that Oracle has also brought up concerns with the treatment of xsd:float and xsd:double. These two datatypes are not currently part of OWL 2 RL. If this situation changes the working group will communicate with you.

Please acknowledge receipt of this email to <mailto:public-owl-comments@w3.org> (replying to this email should suffice). In your acknowledgment please let us know whether or not you are satisfied with the working group's response to your comment.

Regards, Peter F. Patel-Schneider on behalf of the W3C OWL Working Group


PeterPatelSchneider 16:03, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

[Draft Response for LC Comment 43b:] ZW2b

Dear Zhe,

Thank you for your message

 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-wg/2009Jan/0083.html

on the OWL 2 Web Ontology Language last call drafts.

Your message contains multiple sections, affecting more than one document, and will thus generate multiple replies. This response is for sections 4 and 8 about the datatypes in OWL 2 RL.

We have adjusted the datatypes of OWL 2 RL to include those XML Schema datatypes that are derived from xsd:string and xsd:integer, including xsd:positiveInteger, plus xsd:boolean. These were excluded from OWL 2 RL because of a mistaken analogy with OWL 2 EL and OWL 2 QL, namely that intersection of value spaces must be either empty or infinite to maintain the desired properties of the profile. It turns out that this is not needed in OWL 2 RL to obtain its desired computational properties. As any OWL 2 RL tool has to process xsd: string and xsd:integer, the added implementation burden to support these datatypes is negligible.

The situation with owl:rational and owl:real is different. The working group has received complaints that implementing these datatypes may require significant effort on top of a rule reasoner. Therefore owl:rational and owl:real have been removed from OWL 2 RL. This possibility was mentioned in Feature At Risk #2.

The diffs for these changes can be found at http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/index.php?title=Profiles&diff=18687&oldid=18109

The working group notes that Oracle has also brought up concerns with the treatment of xsd:float and xsd:double. These two datatypes are not currently part of OWL 2 RL. If this situation changes the working group will communicate with you.

Please acknowledge receipt of this email to <mailto:public-owl-comments@w3.org> (replying to this email should suffice). In your acknowledgment please let us know whether or not you are satisfied with the working group's response to your comment.

Regards, Peter F. Patel-Schneider on behalf of the W3C OWL Working Group