<scribe> Scribe: Jan

All: Some discussion of AIA and some connections.

Last week's Action Items:

-ACTION: JR to Review WCAG 2.0 LC
... JA to Review WCAG 2.0 LC
... CL to Review WCAG 2.0 LC
... JR to Look into "denial of Service" issue re IBM
... JR to Work on 2.3 proposal to make provision 2 more general - not just visual
... JR to Check out "available programmatically " to see if we have a defn
... JA to Ping CG and PF about AIA.
... JR to Check when publishing moratoria are [8]

GR: Report on HTML5 progress to being an official working draft

<scribe> ACTION: GR to To review first public working draft of HTML5 - user agent conformance section [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-minutes.html#action01]

GR: And will bring other items back to the list
... oh and had an action item to look at Editor's draft change tracking
... The new DIFF script in W3C uses <del> and <ins>

<AllanJ> link to DIFF http://www.w3.org/blog/systeam/2007/10/25/online_htmldiff_service

<AllanJ> above was information, actual service is http://www.w3.org/2007/10/htmldiff

GR: But also need to negotiate other stuff like age of an issue, editorial comment etc

KF: Why can't we use an invisible one pixel graphic with alt text with comment text

GR: Tried this with pseudo elements but not exposed to AT
... Wanted to use overflow technique

Action item review

<scribe> ACTION: JR to Review WCAG 2.0 LC [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-minutes.html#action02]

<scribe> ACTION: JA to Review WCAG 2.0 LC [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-minutes.html#action03]

<scribe> ACTION: CL to Review WCAG 2.0 LC [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-minutes.html#action04]

JR: Look into "denial of Service" issue re IBM: Known issue - prob on IBM side

<scribe> ACTION: JR to Check out "available programmatically " to see if we have a defn [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-minutes.html#action05]

me/ yes

<oedipus> WCAG2 Technique C7 (overflow to hide text in plain sight): http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/C7.html

<scribe> ACTION: JA to Ping CG and PF about AIA [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-minutes.html#action06]

JR: Reported moratoria dates to the list

JR to Work on 2.3 proposal to make provision 2 more general - not just visual...

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2007OctDec/0076.html

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2007OctDec/0078.html

<oedipus> GJR +1 to "conditional content" - not equivalents - not knowable by UA

<oedipus> GJR's plus one was to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2007OctDec/0076.html

<KFord> revised item here seems good for editor draft to me.

All: Agreed to use http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2007OctDec/0076.html in next draft
... Agree including new glossary wordings

<scribe> ACTION: JR to Update Editor's Draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/20-ua-minutes.html#action07]

<oedipus> FYI: 2 HTML5 wiki pages on a11y terminology and consensus: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/AccessibilityConsensus and http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/CommonVocabularyAndDefinitions

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