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14:08:26 <ivan> rrsagent, set log public
14:08:36 <ivan> Meeting: SWEO Weekly Telco
14:08:43 <ivan> Chair: Susie
14:08:49 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:08:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/12/12-sweo-minutes.html ivan
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14:14:05 <leobard> ivan: do you have time to update the "cool uris for semweb" editor draft to a "working draft" which I am finishing in the next minutes?
14:14:22 <ivan> you mean right now?
14:14:37 <leobard> in 30 minutes
14:14:56 <ivan> as I told you in a mail: I will have to ask for a 'short' name to publish it, and this is in the hands of the webmaster...
14:15:16 <ivan> ie, it will not be done by the end of the meeting. But we should get it rolling as soon as we can!
14:15:33 <leobard> what if we publish first version of "Working Draft" at
14:15:46 <leobard> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/2007/cooluris/doc-20071212.html
14:16:06 <ivan> I will have to put it there as an editor's copy anyway
14:16:10 <ivan> that will be the first step
14:16:32 <leobard> can't it be called working draft now, we already have many feedback and changes and @@@notes
14:16:33 <ivan> but it becomes an official Working Draft only when it is of the URI: http://www.w3.org/TR/uri-guide
14:16:33 <leobard> ?
14:16:38 <leobard> ok
14:16:47 <leobard> so I call it editor note for today
14:16:53 <ivan> yes
14:17:01 <leobard> I mean "editor draft"
14:17:09 <ivan> and I hope it will become a working draft before the end of the week
14:17:15 <ivan> or early next week at the latest
14:17:16 <leobard> ok, good
14:17:36 <ivan> have you run it through all the checkers (pubrules, link checker, etc)
14:17:38 <ivan> ?
14:44:17 <leobard> rehi, have been fumbling on it until now
14:44:31 <leobard> no, pubrules and link checker not, will do this now
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14:58:24 <ivan> leo, I guess this means I will install it as an editor's copy tomorrow, and start the process then
14:58:43 <ivan> I will have another call (OWL) later tonight, I do not think I can do it tomorrow after the call:-(
14:59:21 <Zakim> SW_SWEO()10:00AM has now started
14:59:28 <Zakim> +Susie
15:01:06 <Zakim> +??P5
15:01:09 <Zakim> -Susie
15:01:10 <Zakim> +Susie
15:01:18 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
15:01:18 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
15:01:20 <Zakim> +Ivan
15:01:54 <ivan> zakim, ??P5 is Andrea
15:01:55 <Zakim> +Andrea; got it
15:02:09 <Kjetil> Zakim, what is the code?
15:02:09 <Zakim> the conference code is 7936 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Kjetil
15:02:28 <Zakim> + +1.603.886.aaaa
15:02:45 <ivan> zakim, aaaa is Melli
15:02:45 <Zakim> +Melli; got it
15:02:53 <Zakim> +Leo
15:03:02 <Zakim> +Kjetil
15:03:46 <Kjetil> Zakim, mute me
15:03:46 <Zakim> Kjetil should now be muted
15:03:54 <Kjetil> like that
15:03:55 <Zakim> +??P11
15:03:59 <leobard> ivan, I fixed HTML validation + css, link checking has one red one and pubrules checker somehow doesnt work on my url http://www.dfki.uni-kl.de/~sauermann/dada/cooluris/cooluris_sweo_note.html
15:03:59 <ivan> zakim, mute Melli
15:03:59 <Zakim> Melli should now be muted
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15:04:21 <ivan> zakim, ??P11 is Uldis
15:04:21 <Zakim> +Uldis; got it
15:05:10 <Susie> Zakim, pick a scribe
15:05:10 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Kjetil (muted)
15:05:17 <Kjetil> ok!
15:06:09 <Kjetil> Susie goes through the (ideal) agenda
15:06:25 <Kjetil> Susie: first, the business presentation
15:06:53 <Zakim> + +99754aabb
15:07:18 <ivan> zakim, aabb is Bengee
15:07:18 <Zakim> +Bengee; got it
15:07:31 <Kjetil> Susie: David has unfortunately left, can anybody else pick it up?
15:07:50 <Kjetil> Susie: otherwise, we will push it to the next version of SWEO
15:08:02 <Kjetil> ScribeNick: Kjetil
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15:08:26 <Kjetil> Susie: next item, Enterprise Survey
15:08:40 <Kjetil> Susie: I think it is too late to organise a webinar
15:09:18 <Kjetil> Susie: danja should report on the collection
15:09:31 <Kjetil> Susie: but he sent his regrets
15:09:49 <Kjetil> Susie: leobard, you're next up, with the information gathering task
15:11:16 <Kjetil> leobard: we should clean the collection, with the documents that will be there in the end only
15:11:19 <ivan> Regrets: Kingsley
15:12:19 <Kjetil> leobard: we hope that once people have the data, others will create interfaces
15:12:32 <Kjetil> Susie: if it is ready by the end of the year, we could blog it
15:12:50 <Kjetil> Susie: next, cool uri document
15:13:05 <leobard> https://gnowsis.opendfki.de/repos/gnowsis/papers/2006_11_concepturi/html/cooluris_sweo_note.html
15:13:07 <ivan> -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/2007/cooluris/doc-20071212.html latest editor's copy
15:13:27 <leobard> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/2007/cooluris/doc-20071212.html
15:13:41 <Kjetil> leobard: the cool URI document is now up
15:13:50 <Kjetil> ivan: allready on the w3c
15:13:54 <Kjetil> ...site
15:15:10 <Kjetil> ivan: there are some editorial things, we should make it a bit more formal, using "Editor's note" where appropriate
15:19:18 <Kjetil> ivan and leobard went through a number of points
15:19:31 <Kjetil> ivan: now it will be published soon as a WD
15:19:44 <Kjetil> ivan: we should have a comment period
15:20:18 <Kjetil> ivan: we should probably have until January
15:20:33 <Kjetil> Susie: leobard, can it be ready to the end of SWEO
15:21:06 <Kjetil> leobard: I think these things take time, and we cannot push it very hard, so I think it is OK if we publish it after the end of SWEO
15:21:18 <Kjetil> Susie: then we're onto your actions, ivan
15:21:46 <Kjetil> Susie: we got some text from SKOS, have we gotten from RDFa or GRDDL?
15:22:16 <Kjetil> ivan: we have not gotten anything from the others
15:22:46 <Kjetil> ivan: POWDER has gone through so much change, also RDFa is in much the same situation
15:22:55 <Kjetil> Susie: which leaves GRDDL
15:23:21 <Kjetil> Susie: then the use cases
15:25:06 <Melli> sorry, I ave let the ball drop on this one
15:25:11 <Melli> will follow up aggressively
15:25:12 <Kjetil> ivan: microsoft is not ready to put out a published use case. They are not against it, but they are not ready to publically support it either
15:25:34 <Melli> action item to Melli - follow up with Hutchinson
15:25:40 <ivan> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/2007/cooluris/doc-20071212.html
15:25:52 <ivan> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/UseCases/submit.html
15:26:11 <Kjetil> ivan: we should make a page about how to submit a use case
15:26:22 <Kjetil> ivan: Susie has made one
15:26:45 <Kjetil> Susie: now, people can submit without us having to chase it
15:27:08 <Melli> I have question on that - it appears to me that there are more categories now than there were at the F2F?
15:27:20 <Melli> did more get added?
15:27:22 <Melli> ok
15:27:34 <Melli> Leo, Danny and I just started looking into that
15:27:51 <Melli> we will continue and try to have an update nextg week
15:27:56 <ivan> yey!
15:28:29 <Kjetil> Zakim, unmute me
15:28:29 <Zakim> Kjetil should no longer be muted
15:29:59 <ivan> ??
15:30:15 <Melli> I can hear you
15:30:16 <Melli> I can hear you
15:30:24 <Kjetil> we can't hear you Susie
15:30:26 <ivan> susie, you seem to have dropped
15:30:40 <Susie> I'll dial in again..,,
15:30:43 <Zakim> -Susie
15:30:44 <leobard> ok
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15:33:09 <Kjetil> bengee was also lost...
15:33:31 <Kjetil> or was that me....?
15:34:02 <Zakim> -Kjetil
15:35:08 <Zakim> + +47.67.8.aacc
15:35:23 <Kjetil> Zakim, aacc is me
15:35:23 <Zakim> +Kjetil; got it
15:40:02 <Kjetil> there well be meetings and camps in London and Cork about semweb-near stuff
15:40:21 <uldis> overlap with web2.0 and social software ++
15:40:46 <Kjetil> Susie: should we have a wiki page about all those meetings
15:41:15 <LeeF> I'm around next week
15:41:29 <Kjetil> Susie: are people around next week?
15:42:10 <Kjetil> Susie: then we will have a call for the 19th, then jump to the 9th
15:44:20 <Kjetil> Susie: Andrea has just joined, so please give a presentation
15:44:33 <Kjetil> Andrea: I'm taking over for Dunja
15:44:50 <Kjetil> Andrea: My background is a linguist
15:45:39 <Kjetil> Zakim, mute me
15:45:39 <Zakim> Kjetil should now be muted
15:46:18 <Kjetil> Susie: thank you everybody!
15:46:22 <Zakim> -Ivan
15:46:23 <Zakim> -Bengee
15:46:23 <Zakim> -Uldis
15:46:24 <Zakim> -Melli
15:46:24 <Zakim> -Susie
15:46:26 <Zakim> -Leo
15:46:26 <Zakim> -Andrea
15:46:27 <Zakim> -Kjetil
15:46:29 <Zakim> -LeeF
15:46:31 <Zakim> SW_SWEO()10:00AM has ended
15:46:33 <Zakim> Attendees were Susie, Ivan, Andrea, +1.603.886.aaaa, Melli, Leo, Kjetil, Uldis, +99754aabb, Bengee, LeeF, +47.67.8.aacc
15:46:42 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:46:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/12/12-sweo-minutes.html ivan
15:47:20 <ivan> zakim, bye
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15:47:26 <ivan> rrsagent, bye
15:47:26 <RRSAgent> I see no action items