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15:55:21 <John_Boyer> zakim, this will be forms
15:55:21 <Zakim> ok, John_Boyer; I see HTML_Forms()11:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
15:55:29 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, make log public
15:55:41 <John_Boyer> Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Teleconference
15:55:44 <John_Boyer> Chair: John
15:55:48 <John_Boyer> Scribe: Leigh
15:56:01 <John_Boyer> scribenick: klotz
15:56:09 <John_Boyer> Regrets: Steven, Joern, Uli
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15:56:15 <John_Boyer> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Dec/0003.html
15:56:21 <John_Boyer> John_Boyer has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Dec/0003.html
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15:58:43 <Zakim> HTML_Forms()11:00AM has now started
15:59:01 <Zakim> + +1.617.236.aaaa
15:59:03 <Zakim> +[IBM]
15:59:05 <Zakim> - +1.617.236.aaaa
15:59:07 <Zakim> + +1.617.236.aaaa
15:59:19 <wellsk> zakim, who is here?
15:59:23 <John_Boyer> zakim, I am aaaa
15:59:24 <klotz> klotz has joined #forms
15:59:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.617.236.aaaa, [IBM]
15:59:44 <Zakim> +John_Boyer; got it
15:59:48 <Nick> Nick has joined #Forms
16:00:01 <Zakim> On IRC I see ebruchez, klotz, wellsk, CharlieWiecha, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, trackbot-ng
16:00:04 <Nick> zakim, code?
16:00:09 <wellsk> zakim, i am [IBM]
16:00:14 <Rafael> Rafael has joined #forms
16:00:25 <Zakim> the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Nick
16:00:29 <Zakim> ok, wellsk, I now associate you with [IBM]
16:00:30 <Rafael> Zakim code?
16:00:43 <Rafael> Zakim, code?
16:00:55 <Zakim> the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Rafael
16:01:23 <Zakim> +Nick_van_den_Bleeken
16:01:41 <Zakim> +[IBM.a]
16:01:50 <CharlieWiecha> zakim, [IBM.a] is CharlieWiecha
16:01:50 <Zakim> +CharlieWiecha; got it
16:02:34 <Zakim> +Leigh_Klotz
16:02:48 <Zakim> +??P18
16:02:54 <ebruchez> zakim, ??P18 is ebruchez
16:02:54 <Zakim> +ebruchez; got it
16:03:23 <Nick> zakim, mute me
16:03:23 <Zakim> Nick_van_den_Bleeken should now be muted
16:03:42 <Zakim> +??P22
16:03:56 <Rafael> Zakim, ??P22 is me
16:03:56 <Zakim> +Rafael; got it
16:05:56 <John_Boyer> zakim, who is here?
16:05:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see John_Boyer, [IBM], Nick_van_den_Bleeken (muted), CharlieWiecha, Leigh_Klotz, ebruchez, Rafael
16:05:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see Rafael, Nick, ebruchez, klotz, wellsk, CharlieWiecha, RRSAgent, Zakim, John_Boyer, trackbot-ng
16:06:29 <Roger> Roger has joined #forms
16:08:08 <wellsk> zakim, [IBM] is wellsk
16:08:08 <Zakim> +wellsk; got it
16:10:49 <ebruchez> we do, and people implement it
16:11:51 <Rafael> Zakim, Rafael has Roger
16:11:51 <Zakim> +Roger; got it
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16:13:36 <Schnitz> zakim, code?
16:13:36 <Zakim> the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Schnitz
16:14:50 <Zakim> +??P28
16:15:02 <Schnitz> zakim, ??p28 is me
16:15:02 <Zakim> +Schnitz; got it
16:15:03 <ebruchez> Eliotte's point 0 was to fight against tag soup
16:15:14 <Schnitz> zakim, mute me
16:15:14 <Zakim> Schnitz should now be muted
16:19:09 <klotz> http://naggum.no/worse-is-better.html
16:19:23 <klotz> "I will call the use of this design strategy the New Jersey approach "
16:19:46 <Schnitz> right
16:22:57 <Nick> keith, is this info still up to date with the next f2f http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Group/2005/09/f2f/ ?
16:23:27 <Nick> I mean is the Venue the still The IBM Research Triangle Park Executive Briefing Center
16:23:27 <Nick> IBM RTP Main Campus
16:24:25 <wellsk> The Venue is -- but the days, other details need to be updated 
16:24:30 <wellsk> yes
16:24:39 <Nick> thanks
16:24:42 <Schnitz> l-)
16:25:08 <Nick> J2ME
16:27:24 <ebruchez> I put my slides on slideshare
16:27:27 <ebruchez> http://www.slideshare.net/ebruchez/xforms-and-exist-a-perfect-couple/
16:28:32 <Schnitz> bye
16:28:37 <Schnitz> (leigh)
16:30:19 <Schnitz> would work for me
16:30:32 <wellsk> wellsk -1 on Dec 19 and Dec 26
16:30:45 <Schnitz> yep, 19th is ok
16:30:46 <Nick> zakim, unmute me
16:30:46 <Zakim> Nick_van_den_Bleeken should no longer be muted
16:30:51 <Schnitz> 3 weeks break is fine
16:31:02 <Schnitz> I might miss the first call after that break
16:31:43 <Schnitz> zakim, unmute me
16:31:43 <Zakim> Schnitz should no longer be muted
16:32:23 <Nick> zakim, mute me
16:32:24 <Zakim> Nick_van_den_Bleeken should now be muted
16:33:12 <Schnitz> zakim, mute me
16:33:12 <Zakim> Schnitz should now be muted
16:33:16 <Nick> zakim, unmute me
16:33:16 <Zakim> Nick_van_den_Bleeken should no longer be muted
16:33:17 <Schnitz> zakim, unmute me
16:33:18 <Zakim> Schnitz should no longer be muted
16:33:23 <Schnitz> zakim, mute me
16:33:23 <Zakim> Schnitz should now be muted
16:35:18 <Nick> zakim, mute me
16:35:18 <Zakim> Nick_van_den_Bleeken should now be muted
16:36:04 <Nick> zakim, unmute me
16:36:04 <Zakim> Nick_van_den_Bleeken should no longer be muted
16:36:10 <klotz> RESOLUTION: We take a two week teleconference break and we cancel December 26 and January 2. January 9th is the first of the 90-minute calls, with some absences.
16:36:41 <Schnitz> zakim, unmute me
16:36:41 <Zakim> Schnitz should no longer be muted
16:40:01 <Nick> zakim, mute me
16:40:01 <Zakim> Nick_van_den_Bleeken should now be muted
16:41:15 <Schnitz> ok
16:43:09 <Nick> zakim, unmute me
16:43:09 <Zakim> Nick_van_den_Bleeken should no longer be muted
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17:02:49 <Zakim> -Schnitz
17:02:51 <Zakim> -ebruchez
17:03:18 <Zakim> -Leigh_Klotz
17:03:20 <Zakim> -John_Boyer
17:03:24 <Zakim> -Rafael
17:03:26 <Zakim> HTML_Forms()11:00AM has ended
17:03:28 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.617.236.aaaa, John_Boyer, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, CharlieWiecha, Leigh_Klotz, ebruchez, wellsk, Roger, Schnitz
17:03:33 <klotz> rrsagent, make minutes
17:03:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/12/05-forms-minutes.html klotz
17:03:42 <klotz> rrsagent, bye
17:03:42 <RRSAgent> I see no action items