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14:19:00 <LeeF> zakim, this will be dawg
14:19:00 <Zakim> ok, LeeF; I see SW_DAWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 11 minutes
14:19:15 <LeeF> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007OctDec/0055.html
14:19:21 <LeeF> LeeF has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007OctDec/0055.html
14:19:28 <LeeF> Meeting: RDF Data Access Weekly
14:19:32 <LeeF> Chair: LeeF
14:19:36 <LeeF> agenda + convene
14:19:50 <LeeF> agenda + REDUCED tests
14:19:57 <LeeF> agenda + implementation report
14:20:01 <LeeF> agenda + testimonials
14:20:14 <LeeF> agenda + RDF-RDB workshop debrief?
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14:27:29 <LeeF> Regrets: chimezie
14:27:57 <Zakim> SW_DAWG()9:30AM has now started
14:27:58 <Zakim> +LeeF
14:30:18 <Zakim> +??P8
14:30:19 <Zakim> -??P8
14:30:20 <Zakim> +??P8
14:31:26 <AndyS> zakim, ??P8 is me
14:31:26 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
14:31:41 <AndyS> (probably, at least)
14:33:57 <LeeF> ericP, swh, iv_an_ru - are you around to join us?
14:35:07 <LeeF> swh, any chance you've had an opportunity to run or look at the REDUCED tests ?
14:35:26 <swh> LeeF: no, I dont have time to modify my harness to run the tests, so I've not looked
14:35:32 <swh> I could maybe eyeball them?
14:36:18 <LeeF> I would like that :)
14:36:30 <swh> do you have an URL?
14:36:36 <LeeF> (getting it)
14:36:50 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/reduced/
14:37:47 <swh> thanks
14:38:30 <Zakim> +??P9
14:38:47 <LeeF> zakim, ??P9 is Orri_Erling
14:38:47 <Zakim> +Orri_Erling; got it
14:39:23 <LeeF> agenda?
14:40:02 <LeeF> zakim, take up agendum 2
14:40:02 <Zakim> agendum 2. "REDUCED tests" taken up [from LeeF]
14:40:17 <LeeF> Orri: iv_an_ru has looked at the REDUCED tests and they are ok
14:40:50 <LeeF> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007OctDec/0062.html AndyS's results on REDUCED tests
14:43:04 <swh> LeeF, I agree with the test - if the semantics of mf:ReducedCardinalityTest are that the cardinality should be [1,n] when n is what's in the results file
14:43:09 <swh> * tests
14:43:21 <LeeF> swh, those are exactly the intended semantics
14:43:34 <swh> LeeF, neat
14:43:56 <swh> LeeF, note, I've not actually run them, but they look good to me
14:44:22 <LeeF> That's ok, we've got two successful runs (AndyS and me) and two other eyeballs
14:45:13 <Zakim> -Orri_Erling
14:45:17 <LeeF> PROPOSE: Approve the two syntax tests and two evalutation tests for REDUCED as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007OctDec/0060.html modulo manifest change to use something other than rdf:type for indicating that it's a "REDUCED" test
14:45:51 <swh> sure, can I do that over IRC?
14:46:04 <LeeF> Yup
14:46:12 <swh> ok, then I will :)
14:46:40 <AndyS> SECONDED: swh
14:46:42 <LeeF> any objections or abstentions?
14:46:49 <LeeF> resolved.
14:47:11 <LeeF> agenda ?
14:47:53 <LeeF> topic: Edits during PR
14:48:00 <LeeF> AndyS: Can the editors make any changes at all to the documents during PR?
14:48:10 <LeeF> LeeF: The process document doesn't seem to say one way or the other
14:48:15 <LeeF> ... I will investigate further
14:48:34 <LeeF> ACTION: LeeF to determine if any edits can be made between PR and Rec, or if all further edits become errata
14:49:05 <LeeF> ACTION: LeeF mark reduced tests approve and update manifest with new way of indicating that a test uses reduced semantics
14:49:25 <LeeF> ACTION: LeeF to solicit implementation results from reduced tests
14:49:30 <swh> LeeF, I've got an outstanding action to extract a testimonial - when's the deadline on that 
14:49:41 <LeeF> topic: testimonials
14:49:54 <LeeF> LeeF: I need to talk to W3C folks, but I'm guessing the deadline will be 2nd week of December
14:50:01 <AndyS> which is Dec 14
14:50:15 <LeeF> LeeF: But the informal deadline is ASAP :-)
14:50:37 <swh> ok, I'll start the process - is there somewhere to crib good examples from?
14:51:19 <swh> hrm, we may not want our testimonial to go out before our press embargo on the 28th, but that's still before the deadline
14:51:27 <Zakim> +??P9
14:51:44 <AndyS> zakim, ??P9 is Orri
14:51:44 <Zakim> +Orri; got it
14:52:16 <LeeF> -> http://www.w3.org/2004/12/testimonial_pr-guidelines.html testimonial guidelines, with links to examples
14:52:38 <LeeF> swh, the 28th of November or of December?
14:54:51 <LeeF> ADJOURNED
14:54:57 <LeeF> ...discussion of benchmarking XG follows
14:55:04 <LeeF> RRSAgent, make logs world
14:55:11 <LeeF> rrsagent, make minutes
14:55:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/11/13-dawg-minutes.html LeeF
14:56:56 <swh> LeeF: 28th Nov
14:57:16 <LeeF> ah, ok, I understand
14:57:34 <LeeF> big Garlik announcement(s) forthcoming?
14:57:38 <swh> yeah
14:58:39 <swh> I was just expressing interest, rather than free time :)
14:58:48 <swh> some sort of +1 to the idea
15:04:13 <LeeF> :-)
15:09:17 <Zakim> -LeeF
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15:10:26 <Zakim> -Orri
15:10:27 <Zakim> SW_DAWG()9:30AM has ended
15:10:28 <Zakim> Attendees were LeeF, AndyS, Orri_Erling, Orri
15:24:36 <LeeF> rrsagent, bye
15:24:36 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/13-dawg-actions.rdf :
15:24:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: LeeF to determine if any edits can be made between PR and Rec, or if all further edits become errata [1]
15:24:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/13-dawg-irc#T14-48-34
15:24:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: LeeF mark reduced tests approve and update manifest with new way of indicating that a test uses reduced semantics [2]
15:24:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/13-dawg-irc#T14-49-05
15:24:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: LeeF to solicit implementation results from reduced tests [3]
15:24:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/13-dawg-irc#T14-49-25
15:24:38 <LeeF> zakim, bye
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