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16:07:55 <ericP> Zakim, this is BioRDF
16:07:55 <Zakim> ericP, I see SW_HCLS(BioRDF)11:00AM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be BioRDF".
16:08:00 <ericP> Zakim, this will be BioRDF
16:08:00 <Zakim> ok, ericP; I see SW_HCLS(BioRDF)11:00AM scheduled to start in 52 minutes
16:08:10 <Susie> Oops...
16:08:14 <eneumann> zakim, what time is it?
16:08:14 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, eneumann.
16:08:16 <Zakim> SW_HCLS(BioRDF)11:00AM has now started
16:08:17 <Zakim> +Alan
16:08:44 <Zakim> +Eric_Neumann
16:08:47 <Zakim> -Eric_Neumann
16:08:48 <Zakim> +Eric_Neumann
16:09:24 <Zakim> +Scott_Marshall
16:09:28 <ericP> i'm at the TP. am i critical on this call?
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16:09:50 <mscottm> Weeellll... ;)
16:10:03 <Susie> EricP - It'd be good if you could do the 1st 10 minutes.
16:10:25 <ericP> on it
16:10:30 <Zakim> +Susie
16:11:02 <alanr> zakim, who is here?
16:11:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see Alan, Eric_Neumann, Scott_Marshall, Susie
16:11:03 <Zakim> On IRC I see alanr, RRSAgent, Zakim, matthiassamwald, mscottm, eneumann, ericP, Susie, kei
16:11:18 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-mobile
16:11:20 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
16:11:21 <Zakim> +EricP
16:11:44 <ericP> Zakim, who is here?
16:11:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see Alan, Eric_Neumann, Scott_Marshall, Susie, EricP
16:11:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see alanr, RRSAgent, Zakim, matthiassamwald, mscottm, eneumann, ericP, Susie, kei
16:12:26 <matthiassamwald> i get a "this passcode is not valid". it should be "biordf", right?
16:12:35 <mscottm> yes
16:12:39 <mscottm> yes#
16:13:21 <alanr> topic: upcoming meetings
16:13:25 <mscottm> I sometimes have problems getting zakim to recognize key presses: it helps to hold them in extra long (even in software)
16:13:32 <Susie> F2F meeting: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/F2F/
16:13:36 <Zakim> + +1.617.538.aaaa
16:14:02 <ericP> Zakim, aaaa is jar
16:14:02 <Zakim> +jar; got it
16:14:04 <Zakim> +??P10
16:14:18 <matthiassamwald> Zakim, +??P10 is matthias
16:14:18 <Zakim> sorry, matthiassamwald, I do not recognize a party named '+??P10'
16:14:18 <ericP> Zakim, ??P10 is matthiassamwald 
16:14:19 <Zakim> +matthiassamwald; got it
16:14:33 <jar> jar has joined #biordf
16:14:37 <alanr> f2f is a go.
16:14:52 <alanr> dial in information on the wiki
16:14:56 <alanr> today meeting with TAG
16:15:35 <Zakim> +Kei_Cheung
16:16:11 <alanr> scott marshall is coming !
16:17:28 <ericP> -> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/F2F/2007/11/Agenda?highlight=%28Agenda%29 HCLS TPAC F2F Agenda
16:17:29 <alanr> eric asks how much dial in do we need
16:17:38 <alanr> assuming line is set up for the whole meeting
16:18:19 <alanr> no wired access.
16:18:32 <alanr> "best use of our time is to cross our fingers"
16:18:40 <alanr> 95% likely to work
16:19:00 <Susie> ISWC HCLS BOF - http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/ISWC2007/BOF
16:21:04 <alanr> alan will contact kavitha about updating the page with presenter for our submission
16:21:24 <Zakim> +Olivier_Bodenreider
16:22:56 <alanr> re: Kavitha, 11:30-11:45 | Logic based querying of Integrated Life Sciences Data | Julian Dolby
16:23:02 <Zakim> +??P4
16:23:51 <alanr> Susie will take a first stab at content for all the materials for the Workshop
16:24:51 <alanr> I know, we'll have the URL be a PURL :)
16:25:16 <mscottm> yes! :)
16:26:21 <alanr> Alan to set up pricki witi
16:26:33 <alanr> pretty wiki
16:27:34 <alanr> will use mediawiki
16:28:29 <mscottm> if you want to peek at it what wordpress can do in little time:
16:28:31 <mscottm> http://ilps.science.uva.nl/Research/AID/wordpress/
16:33:54 <Zakim> -EricP
16:34:08 <alanr> Aim for site to be up for WWW by Wed, Nov 14
16:36:35 <Zakim> -Kei_Cheung
16:36:55 <alanr> We will notify PC members that they will have a tight schedule first 2 weeks of February to review
16:36:57 <jar> i need to go. bye all
16:37:11 <Zakim> -jar
16:39:30 <alanr> Alan requests people send ideas for semantic web exercise that people could do in a breakout.
16:39:44 <alanr> Alan will be attending http://www.bioontology.org/wiki/index.php/PRO
16:39:58 <alanr> Session: Ontologies and Databases
16:40:20 <alanr> Would be interested in receiving input about topics that Eric is interested in and bringing them to the meeting
16:42:47 <alanr> Eric: Discussion of instances versus classes for proteins
16:42:48 <matthiassamwald> q+
16:42:52 <alanr> q+
16:43:48 <alanr> Eric(n) suggests that we take up this issue (mapping from one to the other) as a task for biordf
16:44:01 <alanr> Matthias says distinguish ontological versus <??>
16:44:52 <alanr> Matthias: When people look at databases some people think of instances and some people see classes
16:46:08 <mscottm> q+
16:46:19 <alanr> ack matthiassamwald
16:46:22 <alanr> ack alanr
16:47:17 <alanr> there are records and there are proteins
16:47:32 <alanr> records are instances, proteins are classes. The two are related.
16:48:14 <alanr> Eric worried that "pure" will not get enough mindshare
16:48:28 <alanr> Susie: invite mitre person that Eric mentions to our call?
16:48:37 <alanr> Action: Eric to invite Mitre Person
16:48:51 <alanr> Action: Alan to set up wiki for WWW2008 workshop
16:49:12 <alanr> ScottM: Issue with post translational modification. Different kind of thing.
16:49:33 <alanr> biopax-obo
16:53:05 <alanr> URI Note: JAR wants to send out email today asking people to review before F2F. Then receive permission from group to put up authors draft on W3C site.  Then follow W3C procedure.
16:53:14 <alanr> Action: EricP explain process for W3C publication
16:53:25 <ericP> roger
16:53:30 <alanr> Susie: Wants clear understanding of the process leading to final approval
16:55:18 <alanr> Alan: New addition to KB: RADLEX. Upcoming Birnlex, NIF Cells.
16:56:36 <alanr> Action: Alan to add Matthias' PDSPki 
16:56:52 <alanr> Action: JAR to send out terms of use and download instructions for Kb components
16:58:00 <alanr> Susie: Requests that Olivier reviews the URI document
16:58:19 <alanr> Olivier: not quite sure where we are going
16:58:50 <alanr> Olivier: didn't think things were stable enough for us to do that. Once this document stable, he can move forward
16:59:43 <Zakim> -Olivier_Bodenreider
16:59:45 <Zakim> -Alan
16:59:45 <Zakim> -??P4
16:59:46 <Zakim> -Susie
16:59:47 <Zakim> -Eric_Neumann
16:59:54 <Zakim> -Scott_Marshall
16:59:58 <Zakim> -matthiassamwald
16:59:59 <Zakim> SW_HCLS(BioRDF)11:00AM has ended
17:00:01 <Zakim> Attendees were Alan, Eric_Neumann, Scott_Marshall, Susie, EricP, +1.617.538.aaaa, jar, matthiassamwald, Kei_Cheung, Olivier_Bodenreider
17:00:20 <Susie> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:00:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/11/05-BioRDF-minutes.html Susie
17:00:36 <Susie> rrsagent, set log world-visible
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